Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

The White Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591013#Comment_118591013

People just don't seem to realise Jones' development is the norm while the likes of Harvey are a rare beast. Jones still has plenty of time to develop.

Gerrard was a rough diamond much like Jones for a long time until he came good so go figure.

eigrod

I think we got a break with Kelleher today - don’t think we could’ve complained toomuch if it was a red. We’d still have won though.

No penalty for me though - the guy changed the line of his run and Konate could do nothing to get out of his way.

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591061#Comment_118591061

the guy changed the line of his run and Konate could do nothing to get out of his way

Just like the penalty Jota got when he changed his line of his run into the Palace keeper.

Consistancy say Cardiff should have gotten a penalty.

eigrod

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591077#Comment_118591077

Agreed, but I think the Jota decision was wrong. VAR or no VAR, we’ll never get consistency.

yourdeadwright

I think currently Jomesnjust isn't good enough

He beat assest is on the ball but doesn't produce often enough right now & often holds onto it to long

Off the ball he runs and tries but his positioning and tactical awareness is shocking off the ball, He looks clueless at times,

Still young so the penny can still drop

Porto away he was brilliant

TitianGerm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591077#Comment_118591077

Everyone said the Jota penalty was the wrong decision.

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591200#Comment_118591200

Except the officials and that is who we want the consistancy from.

Agent Coulson

Klopp on the AFCON

"I will watch it but I don't know how closely. Nat Phillips will probably also make his debut tonight so I might watch that."

Klopp he really does know how to say the right things

Agent Coulson

Nat starts for Bournemouth

BillyHasMates

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591055#Comment_118591055

I agree he is still young and could improve. Comparing his development to Gerrard though is a bit of an optimistic spin on him. He has glaring weaknesses in his game which don't suit being in a midfield 3 for Klopp. He hasn't shown any progress on those weaknesses between last season and this season so for me his trajectory has stalled. He could improve but time is ticking. I think he should be given more time but he still has lots of work to do. I actually think his attributes, where he is good in quick interchange situations, has a decent delivery and a decent shot, would be better suited to a different team and setup. He currently isn't functional or have a balanced game to play in Klopps midfield consistently and he doesn't have the pace or dribbling to play in one of the 3 attacking positions.

The White Wolf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591494#Comment_118591494

The comparison was probably a bit much but I'd maintain Gerrard only became a world beater under Rafa, about 6 years after he broke into the team.

Plus Gerrard had the benefit of time and being a consistent pick before he fully realised what he had. Jones doesn't has that luxury. We're expecting too much from him right now.

Mané smashes penalty down the middle and it's saved...

ShamoBuc

It will be an awkward flight home no matter who wins.

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591693#Comment_118591693

Yep, after Salah got in Mane's head with mind games. Mane ended up doing something he never does, hit and hope down the middle with power.

The White Wolf

Mo with the tips to the keeper. 🤣

~Rebel~

Jones probably could have done with a loan, like Kelleher tbh. But also like Kelleher, they were needed this season - that Jones has played 16 games in just the first half of the season is a fairly firm sign of that. Hopefully the team's midfield can get more settled and sorted before next season and he can go out. He's just been caught between a rock and a hard place - too raw to be a mainstay, but too talented to be let go in case we're running short of players. Only turned 21 last week, which we really need to keep in mind.

theoneeyedman

Mane has actually reacted very well to the miss, most dangerous player in the pitch.

citytillidie

Roy Keane taking the Man Utd defeat to heart trying to 2nd guess Liverpool and Salah

Agent Coulson

Dream debut, it's incredible to be at Anfield and feel its atmosphere on the pitch. Great team match. Let's go Reds

https://twitter.com/LuisFDiaz19/status/1490383794070765571?s=20&t=XzxUPDS0Pdfax06tHN9Gpw

Damien360

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118591819#Comment_118591819

In fairness to him, Utd had enough chances to win that game comfortably and were very hard done by for the handball.

As for the Salah situation, sure he could join boards Liverpool forum here and he wouldn’t be out of place. We’ve all been doing the same for months trying to figure the situation out.

Fitz*

Theres definitely something up with Mane & Salah - they didn't pass to each other once in those 45 mins!

.red.

I've only watched a bit of AFCON but the commentary on Sky is awful, the lads are like 2nd rate youtubers

giveitholly

With Salah involved we are surely looking at extra time

Agent Coulson

Nat’s debut didn’t go well knocked out of the FA Cup by Boreham Wood.

Tusky

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118592035#Comment_118592035

None of the commentators are there - they are doing it remotely. The tournament in general has been woeful.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118592125#Comment_118592125

How did Nat do himself? 50 defensive headers and a Cruyff turn for good measure?

Agent Coulson

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118592169#Comment_118592169

He was alright you could tell he never played with them before.

Dispite all the pressure they put on Boreham, Bouremouth deserved what they got.

atilladehun

I think jones could be compared to Jamie Carragher. Early in his career he was not in the first team plans but would eek out games in a variety of positions.

He was quite talented at a young age but had to develop his fundamentals over nearly 7 years to become the standard he's remembered for.

I think Jones is here for the long term but its gonna take another few years of him working on himself to reach at least first choice sub for us. He's not able to do what he did at underage in the pro game. If he has grit and resilience, which i think he does, he will learn from klopp and become a fairly decent squad member.

citytillidie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118592035#Comment_118592035

Beeb is better

Ken Tucky

My eyes are hurting me watching this muck.

Please somebody score a goal so our lads don't have to do another 30 mins..

Ref seems very biased towards Egypt BTW.. Fati should be off and Koulibaly? penalised every time he wins a ball. Very suspect

Fitz*

4th ET game in a row for Salah & Egypt.

Mane will beat himself up for that penalty miss. Especially considering the circumstances in which Senegal lost the last final.

fyfe79

This tournament could not have gone much worse for Liverpool. Salah in his 4th consecutive extra time and Mane also getting all the way to the final. No way either of these will feature against Leicester at the weekend. Shouldn't need them anyway based on what I saw of Leicester today!

Cartman78

From what I've seen of Afcon (which isn't a lot tbh) Salah isn't exactly running himself into the ground and/or pressing like he does for Liverpool

54and56

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118592284#Comment_118592284

Correct, he's basically hanging out high right for counter attacks and isn't under any pressure to press. He'll still be knackered when he gets back and will need a rest, Mane too who is actually far more involved in the game.

Vicxas

Mane and Salah playing the full 120 mins in the final.... yay

Ken Tucky

Mane diving..just give him another yellow. Embarrassing

machiavellianme

Whichever one wins will be buzzing and probably OK for Leicester on that alone. The other will need a few days off.

Charlie19

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118592280#Comment_118592280

Playing Leicester Thursday night and Burnley away on Sunday but I do agree I wouldn't want either player involved against Leicester and maybe Burnley too especially considering we now have a bit of decent cover.

Vicxas

Getting real nasty now, tackles flying in

theoneeyedman

Poor game. Really needed that early Senegal penalty to go in to make Egypt play a bit.

Hope Senegal win the penalties, Sadio will be in bad mood if they lose in the circumstances.

~Rebel~

Bloody hell - reaallly hope for Mane's sake that Senegal can take it on pens.

Agent Coulson

Mane will be broken for the rest of the season if they lose this :(

~Rebel~

Mane and Salah last for their respective countries... jeysus!

giveitholly

All down to Mane now

Agent Coulson

Might be best that Mane scores and Salah doesn't get to take one.

Great penalty and a deserved win for Mane and Senegal.

Charlie19

Well if Mane misses this....

Surely not.

giveitholly

Delighted for him

~Rebel~

Mane with the chance to win it here--

retalivity

Delighted for Mane!

ShamoBuc

Mané with the winning penalty - delighted for him, especially after he missed early on.