Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

Agent Coulson

Sports Bild in Germany reporting that Bellingham will tell BVB he wants to move after the World Cup and they will honor his wish.

Also saying Liverpool are leading the race for him.

I'm guessing €100m up front with with another €50m paid over time with bounses etc a bit like the Coutinho deal we did with Barca.

martyos121

It's pretty funny looking at all the pictures coming out of the England squad in Qatar. Everywhere you see Bellingham, Hendo is there beside him. He was always great at pressing, but he's taken it up a few levels now.

He might be angling for Julian Ward's job next summer.

Girly Gal

I'd be very surprised if we sign Bellingham, all the financial powerhouses will look to sign him and while I doubt he'd sign for PSG regardless what they offer, I think the rest would all be viable destinations for him, we won't be able to match them financially and if we miss out on CL football which is a very real possibility this season, then that's the end of any hope of signing him. Obviously we all think Liverpool is a more special than any other club, but, looking at things objectively, most of the other clubs linked to him are currently in a better position to get him with the exception of PSG ( poor league and not prestigious enough) & Chelsea ( club seems to be in disarray under new owner). Unless he really wants to play for us and Klopp, ( which can't be ruled out) then we are outsiders to sign him.

AdrianG08

Will be very interesting to see what happens in terms of ownership change at Liverpool. If we could somehow secure some "ethical investment" that would allow us to spend like a club of our standing should be able to, then it would be a game changer. We could really attract top talent.

Some really top class young players seemingly on the market now that could set us up for years. The likes of Gvardiol (a much sought after left footed CB) at RB Leipzig, Bellingham, Kudus at Ajax, Caciedo at Brighton (who I feel will be one of the best midfielders of his kind in the world).

Would be amazing if we could swoop for these guys in one go, unlikely though obviously.

retalivity

Lads, dont do it to yourselves.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119970495#Comment_119970495

Id be letting Gomez go this summer & try get Gvardiol ,

AdrianG08

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119970628#Comment_119970628

Gomez is home grown and reasonably versatile, i'd be more inclined to cash in on Matip and Phillips.

VVD (who will be 32 next year), Konate, Gomez and Gvardiol are nice options to have. Succession planning, akin to what Madrid have been doing with their midfield.

Dream summer/jan would be Bellingham, Gvardiol and Caiceido.

Osmosis Jones

Has Joe Gomez ever even kicked up a fuss about not getting enough minutes or having to play RB or anything? Because to me he looks like a model professional who knows his role, fills a home-grown spot in the squad, and has the majority of his career still ahead of him...yet it feels like there's always this idea that he needs to be sold and should never play for us again.

Lest we forget he was also the main CB partner for Van Dijk the year we won the league.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119970709#Comment_119970709

The problem with Joe is he needs a good run of games to get into a rhythm especially with holding the defensive line ,

I just doesn't think at our levle you can afford to have CB that needs that much time to get it right, Look at Matip he goes straight in and performs ,

I also think Joe would start for England if he played week in week out which i can't see him doing at Liverpool

I actually really like Joe i just think it would be best for both parties if he moves on ,

If we where not replacing him with a real talent like Gvardiol i'd also keep him

Osmosis Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119970724#Comment_119970724

I just think unless he wants out there's no reason to get rid, he's seems pretty happy to play 3rd/4th choice and maybe fight for the starting role and I think he's good enough for that role. Not many teams have a defender that good on their bench.

noodler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119970709#Comment_119970709

Was he the main CB partner? Started that way I thought but didn't matip play a bigger subsequent role?

Irrelevant really as Matip has done it for longer, far better.

Osmosis Jones

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119971085#Comment_119971085

Matip played a few games and then got injured, we had barely kept a clean sheet that season before Gomez got some starts too.

Matip:

Gomez:

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119971186#Comment_119971186

He was outstanding that season ,

AdrianG08

Gomez is one of those lads who is so naturally talented that he can be guilty of switching off. Also maybe hasn't developed other areas of his game sufficiently due to having the advantage of being really quick. He has everything in his locker if he could get his head right and develop consistency. His performance v Man City was superb.

But in true Gomez fashion he had a stinker the following weak. Its either a famine or a feast.

ceegee

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119969691#Comment_119969691

It's transfermarkt. Their valuations are all over the place.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119971538#Comment_119971538

You hit the nail on the head its concentration & over thinking that kills Joe, He has everything needed to be top class just makes unforced errors ,

City game he literally had no time to think as it was so intense game & he was fantastic,

I think he needs to play week in week out

theoneeyedman

To be fair to Gomez, his career has been hampered badly by a few bad, long term injuries. The birth cert might say 25,he's not playing like a 25 year old, I think between having to concentrate on rehab, missing out on gametime, and having to build up both mentally and physically repeatedly from very low base on more than one occasion, it's not hard to see why his development hasn't been as expected.

There are no hints about any attitude problems, so unless he rocks the boat or acts the boll1x, there is no reason to not keep him around the place. There is every chance he might catch up with where he ought to be, he certainly has the raw materials

noodler

If he's a fourth choice we need to keep calling on with recent regularoty then I'd say there's a bit of a problem.

Course that's also an issue with the other two's fitness

Fitz*

Name me a player, who is 1) a better CB than Gomez, 2) happy to be 4th choice and take his chances when they come, 3) Homegrown, 4) Versatile, 5) will integrate into the squad & style of play instantly, 6) a good mix of age & experience, 7) on similar or lower wages, 8) easy to sign on a very low fee as the club can't afford to go spending on a 4th choice CB right now.

You'll struggle.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119974202#Comment_119974202

I guess the big question is how long will he be happy to be 4th choice, will a time come when Joe wants to play ,

Although Matip isn't getting younger & injuries are hitting again so he isn't far away from 3rd choice right now,

Fitz*

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119974324#Comment_119974324

He does play though. That's why he is happy to stay in the squad. And pick up medals.

Fitz*

for F**K sake.

Diaz flying home from Dubai with injury setback.

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1601207632986984450

Widdensushi

Starting to believe the Clickbait articles about Bellingham wanting to go to Liverpool, whether a deal can be reached is a different matter, but it is an big advantage if he wants to join the club.

yourdeadwright

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119975082#Comment_119975082

Lets pray he doesn't need surgery

martyos121

Normally I’d be against Brazil here, but with Alisson in goal, I’d quite like to see him be the hero in a shootout.

micar

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119976282#Comment_119976282

I'm torn.

Would like to see Croatia win but want Alisson to do well in the penalty shootout

Tommysocks11

I bet brasil wished they had Liverpool's other keeper in goals for the penalties

mosstin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119976395#Comment_119976395

Based on his Toy Show performance, I hope he never gets another game for us.

martyos121

Once again, Virgil’s reluctance to ever go to ground to win a tackle is shown up. Watch that Argentina goal back and the slide tackle isn’t just on, it’s a safe bet.

I’m probably nitpicking because he’s so good, but he could’ve done more there.

Widdensushi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119976826#Comment_119976826

Lacking the edge he had previously, reactions seem to be slower.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119976893#Comment_119976893

I guess he wasn't just saving himself for the World Cup after all. He's on the decline but is still OK for 90% of our games but time waits for no one!

martyos121

I'm not even sure it's an age thing with him, it's more of a mental issue as his complacency has become his biggest weakness since returning from the serious knee injury.

The pace and physicality still looks to be there, but the hunger and consistency certainly isn't.

machiavellianme

Heard Virgil tapped his peno gently into the keepers arms at waist height. Glad he did that for the Netherlands and not us!

Cartman78

It was a decent enough peno and a decent save imho

machiavellianme

Didn't see it because I hate injury duty but I heard it was soft and at a perfect height for the keeper. I always think that if it was a decent penalty, it shouldn't be saved. Either way, glad to have him out.

yourdeadwright

Diaz out till march going under the knife

Medical team are a joke , wasted two months

machiavellianme

Disaster. That's awful for Diaz.

martyos121

Wonder if there’s a really good sports physician out there with £5 billion to spare?

micar

Alisson, Fabinho and Van Dijk all heading home today.

Henderson & Alexander-Arnold or Ibrahima Konate heading home tomorrow.

Kinda sad

Girly Gal

Mod Edit

Warning issued.

Agent Coulson

Got to feel for Diaz that’s terrible news.

Agent Coulson

Can’t believe Brazil didn’t bring Fab on in Extra time when there was a chance of penalties especially with his record of never missing in a competitive game.

Talisman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119977594#Comment_119977594

Van Dijk's best moment of the game was his body slam of Paredes after he had taken out Ake and slammed the ball at the Dutch bench when they reacted.

https://twitter.com/mv_jenkins/status/1601322749825150976

Paredes was one of the midfielders that the club supposedly enquired about in the summer.

noodler

Wouldn't be at all sad to see the Argies dumped out in the next round.

Terrible sportsmanship

Captain_Crash

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119978888#Comment_119978888

Maybe I’m in the minority but I just love sh*thousery like that! Really livens things up haha

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119978895#Comment_119978895

I would classify shíthousery as things that go on during the game though. The pulling/dragging/chat/winding up etc.

Gleefully rubbing it in like that after a penalty shoot out victory is bit ott for me - plain bad sportsmanship in the highest degree for me.

giveitholly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119979330#Comment_119979330

Did you see the carry on of the Dutch players during the penalty shootout? Don't blame the Argentina players to be honest.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119979356#Comment_119979356

I would love to see a wide view of the whole shoot out. Ref even booked and sent off Dumfries and booked another Dutch player but the camera quickly pulled away, or else I missed what happened. It all started with the Argie player driving the ball at the Dutch dugout in extra time I think. There were another few 'comings together' that were panned away from quickly and would make for good viewing I'm sure as it was hard to see who did what.

Edit Looking at a few clips in the world Cup Thread of 3 or 4 dutch players following Martinez out of the centre circle before the last penalty probably had a lot to do with it.

Agent Coulson

The lad some said we should have signed instead of Nunez after Portugal's last game wasn't up to much today he was a complete ghost on the pitch.

Amrabat’s performance is what we used to expect from Fab. Hopefully Fab comes back rested and raring to go, but if the club think it is time to move him on, Amrabat looks like he could fit the bill.