Israeli - Palestinian Conflict *Threadbans in OP*

Dyr

eskimohunt wrote: »

If Israel wanted to wipe out the 2-million strong Gazan population, they could do it in a heartbeat.

Whilst civilian loss is always a negative collateral outcome, the deaths of a few dozen citizens does not constitute a "Holocaust" against the Palestinians.

If anything, it demonstrates that Israel is trying to be as targeted as possible. If they were deliberately trying to kill as many citizens as possible, the death count to date would be in the thousands - that's how easy it could be for them.

And in war, it's simply delusional to think no civilians will die.

Ah yeah, the Israelis are great guys for not wiping out all the Palestinians.

Mad stuff ted

Lmkrnr

Your wasting your breath with Jewish troll On here. They are paid to type that drival. Regardless of what you highlight they will have the blinkers on. Like talking to a wailing wall.

cameramonkey

eskimohunt wrote: »

If Israel wanted to wipe out the 2-million strong Gazan population, they could do it in a heartbeat.

Whilst civilian loss is always a negative collateral outcome, the deaths of a few dozen citizens does not constitute a "Holocaust" against the Palestinians.

If anything, it demonstrates that Israel is trying to be as targeted as possible. If they were deliberately trying to kill as many citizens as possible, the death count to date would be in the thousands - that's how easy it could be for them.

And in war, it's simply delusional to think no civilians will die.

It was a simple question, if Israels attacks kill civilian women and children do you think they should stop?

thomas 123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If Israel wanted to wipe out the 2-million strong Gazan population, they could do it in a heartbeat.

Whilst civilian loss is always a negative collateral outcome, the deaths of a few dozen citizens does not constitute a "Holocaust" against the Palestinians.

If anything, it demonstrates that Israel is trying to be as targeted as possible. If they were deliberately trying to kill as many citizens as possible, the death count to date would be in the thousands - that's how easy it could be for them.

And in war, it's simply delusional to think no civilians will die.

“Collateral”

Any more buzz words from Mein Kampf?

ypres5

wes wrote: »

No, what I said those who support an ethno state are racist. Stop it with straw man bull****. Deal with what I actually said and not what you made up in your head.

If someone supports an ethno state, they are racist, it is simple statement of fact. Like if someone supports the KKK, they are racist. Simple statement of fact.



Irrelevant hypothetical. I can no more predict the future than you.

Lets talk what is actually happening and not try and engage in a fool endeavor of predicting the future.

What about the actual deliberate slaughter of Palestinian civilians. Do you condemn the murder of Palestinians civilians by the IDF? Also, it should be noted it is not Hamas's fault that the IDF chooses to deliberately kill civilians.

Do you condemn the racist nation state law of Israel?



Egypt is irrelevant to the thread.

Hamas changed their charter in 2017:
Hamas presents new charter accepting a Palestine based on 1967 borders


It has been posted several times already, but I take it you have chosen to ignore facts, when they don't suit you.

Still the fact remains the Israeli gov is committing genocide and ethnic cleansing as we speak against Palestinians. The Israeli gov has also refused 2 cease fire offers (see links earlier in the thread, its been posted several times).

So what's your opinion on the treatment of non Muslims in Palestine? I already put up some links from Reuters arguably the most unbiased, pure news source in the world but that was dismissed by another poster with absolutely no elaboration and an abundance of cope.

namloc1980

Murder of civilians and destruction of homes = "negative collateral outcome". How sick in the head do you have to be to think like that? Disgusting.

igCorcaigh

seamus wrote: »

Since the IDF are openly admitting that they are engaged in terrorism on Palestinian soil, only a fool would give their "explanations" any space in one's brain;

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1392197029355470848?s=20

I presume what they mean to say is "Our only goal is to strike terrorists".

wes

seamus wrote: »

Since the IDF are openly admitting that they are engaged in terrorism on Palestinian soil, only a fool would give their "explanations" any space in one's brain;

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1392197029355470848?s=20

They have done future war crimes investigators a huge favour with that post.

Shebean

eskimohunt wrote: »

If Israel wanted to wipe out the 2-million strong Gazan population, they could do it in a heartbeat.

Whilst civilian loss is always a negative collateral outcome, the deaths of a few dozen citizens does not constitute a "Holocaust" against the Palestinians.

If anything, it demonstrates that Israel is trying to be as targeted as possible. If they were deliberately trying to kill as many citizens as possible, the death count to date would be in the thousands - that's how easy it could be for them.

And in war, it's simply delusional to think no civilians will die.

So it's a war now? So Israel is at war with people because they aren't Jewish and live were Israel wants Jews to live? Sound familiar? Attacking people based on their religion is what the Nazis did to the jewish people.
Any nuclear power not setting off nukes deserves a thanks for being a good aul' skin?

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

If Israel wanted to wipe out the 2-million strong Gazan population, they could do it in a heartbeat.

Whilst civilian loss is always a negative collateral outcome, the deaths of a few dozen citizens does not constitute a "Holocaust" against the Palestinians.

If anything, it demonstrates that Israel is trying to be as targeted as possible. If they were deliberately trying to kill as many citizens as possible, the death count to date would be in the thousands - that's how easy it could be for them.

And in war, it's simply delusional to think no civilians will die.

They killed four kids playing football on a beach, don't give me that shìte that they don't target civilians.

ypres5

Lmkrnr wrote: »

Your wasting your breath with Jewish troll On here. They are paid to type that drival. Regardless of what you highlight they will have the blinkers on. Like talking to a wailing wall.

Absolutely no antisemitism on the Palestinian side, none at all.

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

It was a simple question, if Israels attacks kill civilian women and children do you think they should stop?

Israel should continue the operation until all strategic objectives have been achieved, neutralizing any threats from Hamas operatives and command and control.

This will be achieved in as targeted a manner as possible.

Some civilians may perish, and that is a negative strategic outcome, but many more civilians will die if Hamas is allowed to send unfettered numbers of rockets into Israel to sow the destruction they yearn for.

There is no solution here where no innocent civilians die.

Hamas have made it their raison d'etre to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible.

It's in their charter.

Read it.

cnocbui

seamus wrote: »

Since the IDF are openly admitting that they are engaged in terrorism on Palestinian soil, only a fool would give their "explanations" any space in one's brain;

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1392197029355470848?s=20

If they are hidden, do you suppose it's possible some people might not know they are there? Perhaps the IDF should provide a list of the locations so families can get away from them and ensure they don't inadvertantly just move near another one. Where should they go? Perhaps the IDF could supply a list of approved hotels.

cameramonkey

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1393199856513175563

Israel often targets schools it seems. I think it is part of a wider project to disrupt children in Gaza and the West Banks education. If they can make life as difficult for Palestinians as possible and also stop them from being educated then it is more difficult for the Palestinians to fight the Israelis legally.

cameramonkey

ypres5 wrote: »

So what's your opinion on the treatment of non Muslims in Palestine? I already put up some links from Reuters arguably the most unbiased, pure news source in the world but that was dismissed by another poster with absolutely no elaboration and an abundance of cope.

Start another thread on it if you are so interested.

wes

namloc1980 wrote: »

Murder of civilians and destruction of homes = "negative collateral outcome". How sick in the head do you have to be to think like that? Disgusting.

The open support for the deliberate murder of civilians is disgusting.

The fact that anyone would think using euphemisms for mass murder would some how not be called out is beyond me.

namloc1980

wes wrote: »

They have done future war crimes investigators a huge favour with that post.

Also sent the tweet in English for the attention of the overwhelmingly Arabic speaking population. It's all performative propaganda. The IDF don't give a flying fook about civilians deaths.

Lmkrnr

If Jew logic today was used bye the Nazis they would say gassing Jews was ok as they fight back when we try to gas them.

TomSweeney

eskimohunt wrote: »

The IDF is producing powerfully edifying graphics on Twitter explaining the operation, what is being achieved, and how to respond to inaccurate propaganda - free from the kind of hysterical bias that many a time you exude through your posts.

One such example is:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393044069924888576

Thanks for that, nothing but sense in those tweets.


God bless Israel.


God bless the IDF.

cnocbui

eskimohunt wrote: »

Israel should continue the operation until all strategic objectives have been achieved, neutralizing any threats from Hamas operatives and command and control.

This will be achieved in as targeted a manner as possible.

Some civilians may perish, and that is a negative strategic outcome, but many more civilians will die if Hamas is allowed to send unfettered numbers of rockets into Israel to sow the destruction they yearn for.

There is no solution here where no innocent civilians die.

Hamas have made it their raison d'etre to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible.

It's in their charter.

Read it.

'Some civillians may perish.' I don't like your opinins.

thomas 123

ypres5 wrote: »

So what's your opinion on the treatment of non Muslims in Palestine? I already put up some links from Reuters arguably the most unbiased, pure news source in the world but that was dismissed by another poster with absolutely no elaboration and an abundance of cope.

Arguably not, it was founded by a Jewish man. Not that there is anything wrong with that - usually when someone tries to show sources for a particular point they would share multiple sources not just a list from one publication with roots on one side of a conflict.

ypres5

cameramonkey wrote: »

Start another thread on it if you are so interested.

I guess it's an inconvenient fact, goes beyond the power rangers level of moral complexity of goodies vs baddies that the Palestinians are capable of and act out prejudice themselves.

igCorcaigh

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There is no solution here where no innocent civilians die.

But there is.
A just and agreed peace settlement.

It has to happen eventually; there is no military solution.

wes

wes wrote: »

The open support for the deliberate murder of civilians is disgusting.

The fact that anyone would think using euphemisms for mass murder would some how not be called out is beyond me.

Not one person on this thread has openly supported the deliberate murder of civilians. Not one.

I defy you to produce one quote to that effect.

But Hamas exist to do precisely that; the same extremist Jihadist organization who spell out that function in their charter - the group you continue to passively, indirectly defend.

Timberrrrrrrr

ypres5 wrote: »

Absolutely no antisemitism on the Palestinian side, none at all.

You do know that the Palestinians are also semites right? So going by your own logic you are engaging in antisemitism.

Odhinn

eskimohunt wrote: »

The vast majority of Palestinians voted for Hamas.

Hand-in-glove between the two.

That's the equivalent of a Muslim-majority country voting for ISIS or Al Qaeda.

You don't seem to have a grasp of the facts. Hamas were only elected in Gaza. The majority of Palestinians in the OT live in the West Bank and Arab East Jerusalem.

Lmkrnr

eskimohunt wrote: »

Not one person on this thread has openly supported the deliberate murder of civilians. Not one.

I defy you to produce one quote to that effect.

But Hamas exist to do precisely that; the same extremist Jihadist organization who spell out that function in their charter - the group you continue to passively, indirectly defend.

Jews have killed more Irish people then Hamas. Fact.

cameramonkey

eskimohunt wrote: »

Israel should continue the operation until all strategic objectives have been achieved, neutralizing any threats from Hamas operatives and command and control.

This will be achieved in as targeted a manner as possible.

Some civilians may perish, and that is a negative strategic outcome, but many more civilians will die if Hamas is allowed to send unfettered numbers of rockets into Israel to sow the destruction they yearn for.

There is no solution here where no innocent civilians die.

Hamas have made it their raison d'etre to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible.

It's in their charter.

Read it.

Well at least you are clear about it. You can dress it up with as much faux military pretend speak as you can muster but basically you are saying attacking civilian buildings and killing Palestinian women and children is OK.

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Not one person on this thread has openly supported the deliberate murder of civilians. Not one.

I defy you to produce one quote to that effect.

But Hamas exist to do precisely that; the same extremist Jihadist organization who spell out that function in their charter - the group you continue to passively, indirectly defend.

Erm....you have!

This will be achieved in as targeted a manner as possible.

Some civilians may perish, and that is a negative strategic outcome,

cameramonkey

cameramonkey wrote: »

Well at least you are clear about it. You can dress it up with as much faux military pretend speak as you can muster but basically you are saying attacking civilian buildings and killing Palestinian women and children is OK.

How you can come to such an absurd conclusion from my remarks is beyond all comprehension.