Israeli - Palestinian Conflict *Threadbans in OP*

Tyrone212

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Has anyone ever come across a Mark Humphries on Twitter with respect of this conflict ?

Makes Eoghan Harris seem perfectly normal , complete weirdo and a cultish defense of IDF actions

Rory Cowan is another strange one.

Fandymo

ypres5 wrote: »

The posts were deleted along with another charming one implying people killed in the Holocaust were cowards for not fighting back. But no antisemitism on this thread no siree.

So the “anto”- semites have been banned, but everyone in the thread is an anti-Semite. That’s some logic.

Tyrone212

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

If I were a Palestinian I would be looking for a peaceful solution firing rockets at a people with their history is only going to end up one way

They will never be put in a position like they were in the middle of the last century again

Why can’t people understand that?

And what about Israel? Continually breaking international law and evicting Palestinians from their homes and settling Israelis in them. Nothing peaceful about that. And they get away with it, nothing ever happens. Then Gaza an open air prison.

If a foreign army came in overnight and evicted your from your home and claimed it. What peaceful solution would you seek with them?

namloc1980

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

If I were a Palestinian I would be looking for a peaceful solution firing rockets at a people with their history is only going to end up one way

They will never be put in a position like they were in the middle of the last century again

Why can’t people understand that?

There is no path to a peaceful solution with the ongoing and continued expansion of settlements in the West Bank. Israel has zero interest in a peaceful solution.

Certainly the two state solution is all but dead.

Overheal

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Then Gaza an open air prison.

That does seem to be an appropriate metaphor for it. No freedom of self determination while they don't have statehood, ports, and a respected border.

Mimon

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

If I were a Palestinian I would be looking for a peaceful solution firing rockets at a people with their history is only going to end up one way

They will never be put in a position like they were in the middle of the last century again

Why can’t people understand that?

Yeh :rolleyes:, Irish people also should have just put up with British oppression and never rose up to grasp our own destiny or stand up for ourselves against the odds.

People who are oppressed and terrorised by an apartheid militarist state need to show some resistance, even if it is just above token resistance.

markodaly

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Isn't it noticeable how movies have been made about Ww2 ( endless number), ditto Vietnam, we've had movies about Northern Ireland, Cambodia,

Nothing ever made about the Israeli Palestinian conflict?

Go on.... why is this, and try to provide an explanation that is not Anti-Semitic...

#Shouldbegood

Overheal

markodaly wrote: »

Go on.... why is this, and try to provide an explanation that is not Anti-Semitic...

#Shouldbegood

They just asked isn't it noticeable - and it is. They didn't proffer a reason why.

horseshoe22

Mimon wrote: »

Yeh :rolleyes:, Irish people also should have just put up with British oppression

Oh dear, that old British oppression again! Only put £3.2 billion into our begging bowl, how nasty

Bilateral loan to Ireland
The Loans to Ireland Act was granted Royal Assent on 21 December 2010, and provided Parliamentary authorisation for a bilateral loan of £3.2 billion to be lent to Ireland.

Now where did i put that dictionary? lets see,

`~Hypocrite`?

My name is URL

horseshoe22 wrote: »

Oh dear, that old British oppression again! Only put £3.2 billion into our begging bowl, how nasty

Bilateral loan to Ireland
The Loans to Ireland Act was granted Royal Assent on 21 December 2010, and provided Parliamentary authorisation for a bilateral loan of £3.2 billion to be lent to Ireland.

Now where did i put that dictionary? lets see,

`~Hypocrite`?

That was all paid back in full and ahead of schedule.

Britain still owes billions in debt and cry about maintaining their obligations

markodaly

derekgine3 wrote: »

If true, fair play to Syria.

Yes, a great bunch of lads who gasses their own people.

And some people wonder why Israel has a siege mentality when you have nutjobs on all sides, wishing their country and people harm, and who would have no problem exterminating them?

namloc1980

markodaly wrote: »

Go on.... why is this, and try to provide an explanation that is not Anti-Semitic...

#Shouldbegood

There it is, the antisemitic card being played again. Tonight out of things to talk about are we?

Overheal

markodaly wrote: »

Yes, a great bunch of lads who gasses their own people.

And some people wonder why Israel has a siege mentality when you have nutjobs on all sides, wishing their country and people harm, and who would have no problem exterminating them?

Are you sure you're not getting worked up by a virtual-strawman?

horseshoe22

horseshoe22 wrote: »

Oh dear, that old British oppression again! Only put £3.2 billion into our begging bowl, how nasty

Bilateral loan to Ireland
The Loans to Ireland Act was granted Royal Assent on 21 December 2010, and provided Parliamentary authorisation for a bilateral loan of £3.2 billion to be lent to Ireland.

Now where did i put that dictionary? lets see,

`~Hypocrite`?

What?

Mad_maxx

My name is URL wrote: »

He's been at it for yonks. Absolute clown of a man in real life too

edit: see he has a Parler account linked on Twtter now. Says it all

politics aside , seems a very strange sort ?

Mad_maxx

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Rory Cowan is another strange one.

didnt know he was a prominent commentator on the conflict ? , he seems quite reasonable with his opinions on other issues

markodaly

markodaly wrote: »

Yes, a great bunch of lads who gasses their own people.

And some people wonder why Israel has a siege mentality when you have nutjobs on all sides, wishing their country and people harm, and who would have no problem exterminating them?

If you run into assholes all day then you're the asshole.

Overheal

horseshoe22 wrote: »

Interesting development by Twitter, seems they have blocked Israeli messages

Adam Milstein
@AdamMilstein
Twitter now censoring the communications of the Israeli Defense Forces @IDF
The terrorist Islamic State of Iran, and its proxy terrorist groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Houthis are continuing to enjoy their freedom of speech and the usage of social media
Quote Tweet
Israel Defense Forces
@IDF
· 1h
We tried to tweet about sirens sounding in Beersheba but Twitter wouldn’t let us.

We know it’s repetitive—but that’s the reality for Israelis all over the country.

The Jerusalem Post speculates the tweets announcing the groundwar was used as a ruse to manipulate Palestinians ahead of conducted air strikes, maximizing casualties.

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/idf-deception-leads-to-massive-aerial-assault-on-hamass-metro-668182

At midnight, the IDF Spokesperson’s English department tweeted, “IDF air and ground troops are currently attacking in the Gaza Strip.”


Foreign media jumped at the tweet, interpreting it to mean that Israel was sending ground forces into Gaza, a major escalation in the current operation and a sign that it was far from over.
Websites of media outlets around the world, including the Washington Post and ABC, reported the incursion. “Israeli troops have entered the Gaza Strip as conflict with Palestinians escalates, Israeli military says,” was the tweet put out by the Washington Post.


The problem was that there was no ground invasion. Yes, the IDF had deployed troops along the border, but they did not cross into Gaza. What did happen was in the air where 160 aircraft had assembled for a massive bombing run over the Gaza Strip. Their target was what the IDF called Hamas’s “Metro”, an underground network of tunnels which Hamas used to store its weapons and to move throughout Gaza hidden from Israeli aircraft.
The “Metro” had been built in the years after the 2014 war in the Gaza Strip, also known in Israel as Operation Protective Edge. It was a network of dozens of kilometers of tunnels that crisscrossed Gaza and provided safety from Israeli aerial incursions.
According to reports, due to the deployment along the border and the news coming out in the foreign media of a ground incursion, Hamas and Islamic Jihad sent their first-line of defense into the tunnels to start taking up positions. These were the anti-tank missile teams and mortar squads meant to strike at incoming Israeli ground forces.
What these Hamas operatives did not know was that there was no ground offensive. Instead, once they were out of the tunnels, they were exposed to Israeli aircraft. Within minutes, the “Metro” attack went ahead. This led to speculation that the tweet about the ground incursion was intentional and made to get Hamas to believe it was safe to enter the tunnels.

This being the case it's no wonder then that Twitter has temporarily been censoring the IDF from making use of the platform to its own killer ends.

Tyrone212

Mad_maxx wrote: »

didnt know he was a prominent commentator on the conflict ? , he seems quite reasonable with his opinions on other issues

His tweets and replies section on his page He's talking about the conflict. Always found him to be an insufferable dose.

Tyrone212

Israelis interviewed on the street. Most of them young adults with staunch views.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmpireFiles/status/1393015740291162120

jmreire

horseshoe22 wrote: »

Oh dear, that old British oppression again! Only put £3.2 billion into our begging bowl, how nasty

Bilateral loan to Ireland
The Loans to Ireland Act was granted Royal Assent on 21 December 2010, and provided Parliamentary authorisation for a bilateral loan of £3.2 billion to be lent to Ireland.

Now where did i put that dictionary? lets see,

`~Hypocrite`?

Sure, purely out of their charitable instincts, and an overwhelming desire to help their Irish neighbours...and if you believe that, you wil believe anything. Their "generosity" first and foremost was driven by their desire to protect UK bond holders, and nothing else. Plus it was a nice little earner, and was repaid in full. But charity and begging bowl??? no way.

Overheal

Overheal wrote: »

This being the case it's no wonder then that Twitter has temporarily been censoring the IDF from making use of the platform to its own killer ends.

That said IDF is not censored and is still tweeting - their censorship complaint comes because they tried to tweet the same thing out twice and received an error that they had already sent out that tweet. Their complaint was that they should have been allowed to send it twice in a row, because 'you know, we felt it was an important tweet'

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393269127381458953?s=20

wes

Odhinn wrote: »

It's the colonisation of the occupied territories. Strikes a nerve.

Also, we don't have house of Saud apologists making excuses for what happens in Yemen.

wotzgoingon

I wonder how long it took Russia to design these. Hamas could do with a few of these. Iron dome wouldn't stop them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhiTgoXQ-Ww

wes

Mad_maxx wrote: »

The threat to Israel is grossly exaggerated, just because Hamas would like to drive them into the sea ,doesn't mean they can

Just to note that Zionists did literally drive Palestinians into the sea in 1948, Palestinians were evacuated via sea to Gaza. Most of the population of Gaza, is made up of descendants of Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed by Zionists.

My name is URL

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I wonder how long it took Russia to design these. Hamas could do with a few of these. Iron dome wouldn't stop them.

They can't even import latex gloves without Israel's say so

wes

Zionists mobs now with a police escort shouting death to arabs:
https://twitter.com/theIMEU/status/1393299631539474436?s=20

Info from Amnesty Ireland of what is going on:
https://twitter.com/AmnestyIreland/status/1392935736454877188?s=20

Also Israeli humans rights org reporting on settlers arming themselves in the West Bank:
https://twitter.com/btselem/status/1392879383333978114?s=20

jmreire

My name is URL wrote: »

They can't even import latex gloves without Israel's say so

Maybe not latex gloves, but for sure they were able to "import" enough rockets to over come the iron dome with sheer Nrs. When people talk about Israel blocking or otherwise controlling everything entering / leaving Gaza, they mean controlling approved routes ( like customs etc) but weapons have been coming in regularly via "unapproved" routes...how else did they manage to stockpile the Nrs of rockets? And how many are left now? I think that we will find out soon enough.

Overheal

jmreire wrote: »

Maybe not latex gloves, but for sure they were able to "import" enough rockets to over come the iron dome with sheer Nrs. When people talk about Israel blocking or otherwise controlling everything entering / leaving Gaza, they mean controlling approved routes ( like customs etc) but weapons have been coming in regularly via "unapproved" routes...how else did they manage to stockpile the Nrs of rockets? And how many are left now? I think that we will find out soon enough.

I think you need to take a look at these rockets:

Anyone with steelwork experience, a spot-welder, and the right tools and household chemicals can build one of these. You could build them out of scrap.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qassam_rocket





There is really not a lot to them. No guidance, no sophistication beyond the nailbomb payload. Nobody has to sell them these, they are readily made. A kind of shocking innovation in guerilla warfare.

Montage of Feck

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Isn't it noticeable how movies have been made about Ww2 ( endless number), ditto Vietnam, we've had movies about Northern Ireland, Cambodia,

Nothing ever made about the Israeli Palestinian conflict?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon_(2009_film)