Israeli - Palestinian Conflict *Threadbans in OP*

thomas 123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hamas is imprisoning the population by creating conditions that lead to the situation at present.

Oh yes Hamas drew the straight lines around the Gaza Strip didn’t they?

I suppose Hamas knock down the houses in the West Bank too do they?

Oh look it’s raining - must have been Hamas.

antgal23

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The Hamas Charter calls for the destruction of the State of Israel the conquest of its territory and the killing of all Jews not just in Israel but around the world.

Hamas also believe in a global Islamic Caliphate. Non Muslims must convert or be killed.

The Irish left who supposedly believe in free speech freedom of assembly freedom of religion workers rights the equality of women and LGBT rights are the cheerleaders for this disgusting anti semitic genocidal jihadist Islamic fundamentalist terrorist organisation who want a second Holocaust of the Jewish people.

It's utterly embarrassing

The ordinary Palestinian's right to self determination has nothing to do with Hamas

Don't deliberately confuse them to justify the targeting by Israel of civilians and the independent media

For balance, let's see what life is like for Israelis under constant bombardment from the ISIS-supporting Hamas:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393603322947457024

votecounts

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The Irish left is shamelessly anti semitic

It really isn't

namloc1980

eskimohunt wrote: »

Hamas is imprisoning the population by creating hostile conditions that lead to the situation at present. Israel cannot accept hostile neighbors.

This is the ultimate in gaslighting.

Samsonsmasher

thomas 123 wrote: »

TL;DR

The Palestinian childeren and woman deserve to be killed beacause they happen to be born in an open air prison where the top dogs happen to fire rockets at their imprisoner.

You may want to rethink the definition of embarrassing.

Hamas hiding behind a human shield of Palestinian civilians which is a war crime under international law are firing hundreds of rockets at innocent Israeli civilians which is another war crime under international law.
Israel has a right to defend its people and is using discriminate force to target Hamas and their rockets in accordance with international law.
The deaths of Palestinian civilians are the responsibility of Hamas.

thomas 123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For balance, let's see what life is like for Israelis under constant bombardment from the ISIS-supporting Hamas:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393603322947457024

In war you should expect some collateral Damage...

tayto lover

Deleted User wrote: »

Palestine, if it had existed on its own would have been conquered by one of it's Arab neighbors. The only reason there is a Palestine today is because of Israel.

Jesus that’s some statement right there.
If we didn’t beat them to death someone else would.

Shame on you.

Donald Trump

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

You can the Hamas Charter here.

Lol

At the bottom of your linked page

Information Division, Israel Foreign Ministry - Jerusalem
Mail all Queries to ask@israel-info.gov.il
URL: http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il
gopher://israel-info.gov.il

antgal23

Tyrone212 wrote: »

From 2000-20 32 Israelis were killed by Palestinian rockets, while an estimated 4,000 Palestinians were killed by Israeli airstrikes.

From the 4000 killed how many were

Combatants
Women
Children
Babies
Elderly

?

tayto lover

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

Hamas hiding behind a human shield of Palestinian civilians which is a war crime under international law are firing hundreds of rockets at innocent Israeli civilians which is another war crime under international law.
Israel has a right to defend its people and is using discriminate force to target Hamas and their rockets in accordance with international law.
The deaths of Palestinian civilians are the responsibility of Hamas.

The poor Palestinians thrown out of their homes to make room for settlers, who were they hiding behind? Who were all those murdered little children who were blown to pieces hiding behind?
Shame on you.

Samsonsmasher

Donald Trump wrote: »

Lol

At the bottom of your linked page

The Hamas Charter is available from multiple sources.

Hamas is dedicated to destroying Israel the conquest of its territory and the mass murder of all Jews in Israel and in the entire world.
They want to establish a global Islamic Caliphate

tayto lover

tayto lover wrote: »

The poor Palestinians thrown out of their homes to make room for settlers, who were they hiding behind? Who were all those murdered little children who were blown to pieces hiding behind?
Shame on you.

What about the prospect of babies being blown to pieces by Hamas' rockets? Indiscriminate rockets that hope to kill as many civilians as possible.

Why do you only care about Palestinian babies?

antgal23

[Deleted User] wrote: »

For balance, let's see what life is like for Israelis under constant bombardment from the ISIS-supporting Hamas:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393603322947457024

Get over yourself will you

No comparison

The Palestinians in Gaza, East Jerusalem and The West Bank live like this every day as they are subjected to

Beatings by IDF
Settler intimidation and violence
Checkpoints
Separation from family

Housefree

namloc1980 wrote: »

The use of IDF propaganda tweets as proof is a new low on the thread. Pathetic.

Probably makes sense to the posters working with the IDF

Israel funds a massive online troll army to defend it's Apartheid regime and justify it's human Rights abuses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUTNOvDYC0

https://electronicintifada.net/content/inside-israels-million-dollar-troll-army/27566[/quote]

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israels-troll-army-will-not-stop-palestinian-activism

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191020-the-war-on-truth-how-israels-social-media-trolls-conquered-facebook/amp/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYzVOlcENZ4

thomas 123

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

Hamas hiding behind a human shield of Palestinian civilians which is a war crime under international law are firing hundreds of rockets at innocent Israeli civilians which is another war crime under international law.
Israel has a right to defend its people and is using discriminate force to target Hamas and their rockets in accordance with international law.
The deaths of Palestinian civilians are the responsibility of Hamas.

Israel the state is far from innocent.

What would you do if you got turfed out of your home and thrown into a ghetto? Some fat yank touring your house looking at where they are going to put their ****e, while you frantically pack your belongings at gunpoint...

Hamas did not have rockets at the news building - it’s not a suitable place to launch rockets from. Repeating your rhetoric and avoiding the facts will not sway many of us here who can digest information from multiple sources and come to or own conclusions.

Donald Trump

eskimohunt wrote: »

For balance, let's see what life is like for Israelis under constant bombardment from the ISIS-supporting Hamas:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393603322947457024

Wow that is even more upsetting than the video from earlier of the kids screaming as a mob tries to beat their way into their house.




A man sitting down with a baby, looking up into a clear blue sky :eek: . God help him. The only solution for that man is to be allowed to press the launch button on a guided missile targeted at a few Palestinian kids.

namloc1980

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The Hamas Charter is available from multiple sources.

Hamas is dedicated to destroying Israel the conquest of its territory and the mass murder of all Jews in Israel and in the entire world.
They want to establish a global Islamic Caliphate

More lies. You are referencing the 1988 charter. Why not the current 2017 one??

tayto lover

eskimohunt wrote: »

For balance, let's see what life is like for Israelis under constant bombardment from the ISIS-supporting Hamas:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393603322947457024

You’d need a lot more than this snippet to justify the murders of so many little Palestinian children.
Some balance you have.

thomas 123

Housefree wrote: »

Probably makes sense to the posters working with the IDF

Israel funds a massive online troll army to defend it's Apartheid regime and justify it's human Rights abuses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FUTNOvDYC0

https://electronicintifada.net/content/inside-israels-million-dollar-troll-army/27566

https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/israels-troll-army-will-not-stop-palestinian-activism

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20191020-the-war-on-truth-how-israels-social-media-trolls-conquered-facebook/amp/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYzVOlcENZ4

[/quote]

Interesting fact - 95% of Israeli requests to remove content on social media are honored.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN11I247

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

More lies. You are referencing the 1988 charter. Why not the current 2017 one??

So, Hamas moved from overt genocide to non-genocide?

They are reformed militants?

Do you really believe this? Irrespective of what a "charter" states. You do realize this is the equivalent of endorsing an updated ISIS charter?

HINT: They support ISIS.

Feisar

We should know from our own history that this isn't a black and white, these guys are good and those are bad. The truth is rarely simple.

thomas 123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So, Hamas moved from overt genocide to non-genocide?

They are reformed militants?

Do you really believe this? Irrespective of what a "charter" states. You do realize this is the equivalent of endorsing an updated ISIS charter?

HINT: They support ISIS.

What age do you have to he to Join Hamas?

Or are all Palestinian people in Hamas?

thomas 123

thomas 123 wrote: »

What age do you have to he to Join Hamas?

Or are all Palestinian people in Hamas?

Over 40% of adults support Hamas directly (see last election results).

Who knows how many support Hamas indirectly, but didn't bother to vote.

Of course, voting doesn't matter now. As Hamas have taken totalitarian control and refuse to issue fresh democratic elections. It literally was the "last" election.

namloc1980

eskimohunt wrote: »

For balance, let's see what life is like for Israelis under constant bombardment from the ISIS-supporting Hamas:

https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1393603322947457024

Hang on. You have no problem with Palestinian children being blown to bits and called it a "negative collateral outcome" earlier on the thread. So why are you showing us this stuff? Surely you accept these things happen? You're not being hypocritical are you? Surely not.

tayto lover

eskimohunt wrote: »

What about the prospect of babies being blown to pieces by Hamas' rockets? Indiscriminate rockets that hope to kill as many civilians as possible.

Why do you only care about Palestinian babies?

I care about justice.
I’m not seeing any from the murderous Israelis.

All life is sacred but I’ve seen too many videos of the IDF laughing after they murder kids who they used as target practice. Murdering scum.

thomas 123

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Over 40% of adults support Hamas directly (see last election results).

Who knows how many support Hamas indirectly, but didn't bother to vote.

Of course, voting doesn't matter now. As Hamas have taken totalitarian control and refuse to issue fresh democratic elections. It literally was the "last" election.

That’s not what I asked you.

Samsonsmasher

thomas 123 wrote: »

Israel the state is far from innocent.

What would you do if you got turfed out of your home and thrown into a ghetto? Some fat yank touring your house looking at where they are going to put their ****e, while you frantically pack your belongings at gunpoint...

Hamas did not have rockets at the news building - it’s not a suitable place to launch rockets from. Repeating your rhetoric and avoiding the facts will not sway many of us here who can digest information from multiple sources and come to or own conclusions.

Hamas are a vicious evil repressive Islamic supremacist terrorist organization who want a second Holocaust of the Jews.

They are attacking innocent Israeli men women and children with hundreds and hundreds of rockets.

How can any educated informed person not know this and how can any person who believes in freedom democracy and human rights cheer on Hamas in the streets of Dublin today?

Israelis are defending themselves and will continue to defend themselves and don't need permission from deluded anti semitic terrorist sympathizers on Irish streets.

horseshoe22

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

https://fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/880818a.htm

You can the Hamas Charter here.

I would advise everyone on this thread and indeed all those gullible enough to swallow terrorist propaganda and to take a minute and read that
there is no doubt what Hamas and their ilk are really about, the complete obliteration of not only Israel but eventually all of western society.

A couple of extracts...
"On the Destruction of Israel:

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'Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will

obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it.'"

There is no solution for the Palestinian problem except by

Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are but a

waste of time, an exercise in futility.' (Article 13)
Anti-Semitic Incitement:

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'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and

kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees,


The Call to Jihad:

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'The day the enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the

individual duty of every Moslem. In the face of the Jews' usurpation,

it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.' (Article 15)

'Ranks will close, fighters joining other fighters, and masses

everywhere in the Islamic world will come forward in response to the

call of duty, loudly proclaiming: 'Hail to Jihad!'. This cry will

reach the heavens and will go on being resounded until liberation is

achieved, the invaders vanquished and Allah's victory comes about.'
(Article 33)

So, to all the Pro Hamas apologists in this thread do or do you not agree with their Charter............. that`s a Yes or a No...no obfuscation

thomas 123

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

Hamas are a vicious evil repressive Islamic supremacist terrorist organization who want a second Holocaust of the Jews.

They are attacking innocent Israeli men women and children with hundreds and hundreds of rockets.

How can any educated informed person not know this and how can any person who believes in freedom democracy and human rights cheer on Hamas in the streets of Dublin today?

Israelis are defending themselves and will continue to defend themselves and don't need permission from deluded anti semitic terrorist sympathizers on Irish streets.

Copy/paste?

Your points have already been rendered moot, waste of time engaging.