Copping On

retroactive

In the traditional sense. How do you know when to "cop on" and stop acting like a teenager. What age?

I would say it's time to cop on when you've got a mortgage. That permanency and responsibility ought to be the moment but I think the housing crisis has led to prolonged renting. The labour market has normalised job hopping which I would say also 'mitigates' any feelings of responsibility and prolongs the period of not being copped on.

Thoughts?

Victor

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Himnydownunder

retroactive wrote: »

In the traditional sense. How do you know when to "cop on" and stop acting like a teenager. What age?

I would say it's time to cop on when you've got a mortgage. That permanency and responsibility ought to be the moment but I think the housing crisis has led to prolonged renting. The labour market has normalised job hopping which I would say also 'mitigates' any feelings of responsibility and prolongs the period of not being copped on.

Thoughts?

You can’t have cop on without a mortgage. It’s a scientific fact (in Ireland at least). The Germans have no cop on, as many of them have no mortgage.

pleasant Co.

Victor wrote: »

42.

Fcuk, so that’s the question, disappointing.

blade1

90

listermint

If you ever start copping on as you put it. You've lost the battle.

People shouldn't ever cop on life is some crack you should leave space for just being an edgit sometimes.

Pushing a baby out of your vagina at 22 years old cops one on pretty fast. *

* May not work for lads. (Although...)

ShatterAlan

retroactive wrote: »

In the traditional sense. How do you know when to "cop on" and stop acting like a teenager. What age?

I would say it's time to cop on when you've got a mortgage. That permanency and responsibility ought to be the moment but I think the housing crisis has led to prolonged renting. The labour market has normalised job hopping which I would say also 'mitigates' any feelings of responsibility and prolongs the period of not being copped on.

Thoughts?

I like copping off.


Feisty woman essential for the process.

Wanderer78

isha wrote:

* May not work for lads. (Although...)

If it results in copping on, i ll give it a shot

TheMilkyPirate

Never. Do act feel say whatever you like just don't be a dick

Montage of Feck

Turn on, tune in, and cop out

Wanderer78

TheMilkyPirate wrote:

Never. Do act feel say whatever you like just don't be a dick

That's kinna hard to do though, my actions tend to upset others

Thespoofer

For me it was about 30.
Blew everything I had up to that point.
Different story now.

statto25

Does cop on only refer to Financial responsibilities or all aspects of life. I'm in my mid 30s and would regard myself as financially responsible but I won't ever stop acting the clown. I enjoy entertaining the kids and taking the pee with friends and family. Life is too short to be serious about everything and offended by anything

steddyeddy

I don't think one can link mortgage acquisition with maturity in light of our history in regards to property related boom and bust.

Wanderer78

steddyeddy wrote: »

I don't think one can link mortgage acquisition with maturity in light of our history in regards to property related boom and bust.

...but we are failing badly at accepting its causes, leading me to believe, its a deep element of immaturity of acceptance

Snails pace

I suppose if you end up having a child or borrow money you cop on very quick regardless of age. You still need a bit of space in your life to act the egjit aswell. Otherwise life gets very boring and mundane.

I have a friend when we were younger had a head on his shoulders. Wouldn't go out for a night, worked hard, didn't take time off. His the most boring person to be around. I have another fried the total opposite. Just tips along with life, doesn't worry about money, fancy clothes or a car. He has some brilliant stories and I would love his life.

Hamsterchops

Montage of Feck wrote: »

Turn on, tune in, and cop out

Now you're talking

36.

Montage of Feck

What's the hurry! Plenty of time to cop on when your dead.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Pushing a baby out of your vagina at 22 years old cops one on pretty fast. *

* May not work for lads. (Although...)

Watching that event at 20 certainly had a pretty sobering effect


I was hammered going in

tdf7187

retroactive wrote: »

In the traditional sense. How do you know when to "cop on" and stop acting like a teenager. What age?

I would say it's time to cop on when you've got a mortgage. That permanency and responsibility ought to be the moment but I think the housing crisis has led to prolonged renting. The labour market has normalised job hopping which I would say also 'mitigates' any feelings of responsibility and prolongs the period of not being copped on.

Thoughts?

A dubious thesis. I can only assume you weren't on this forum during the financial crash when it seemed like every second day we would see a new "Hey, I'm giving my keys back to the bank". Many people were apparently unaware that simply emigrating does not make the debt go away.

One also reads regularly of X Y Z celeb brought to court by their bank having paid, in some cases, no repayments whatever in over a decade. Do you actually not follow the media?

It seems to me, based on an admittedly unscientific survey, that if anything having a mortgage in this country could be inversely correlated to a sense of responsibility.

Niner leprauchan

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Watching that event at 20 certainly had a pretty sobering effect


I was hammered going in

It sobered up himself also in fairness. Although next day he had to regale me wide-eyed with the moving tale of how he had gone home afterwards and* delivered himself of a turnip-sized article in sympathy -
*may be more suited to the scatalogical thread.

Strumms

listermint wrote: »

If you ever start copping on as you put it. You've lost the battle.

People shouldn't ever cop on life is some crack you should leave space for just being an edgit sometimes.

Sometimes is grand, being an eejit though is a full time lifelong occupation for some. :eek:

branie2

Early 20s

riclad

25 to 30 when u realise its up to you to save a deposit for a house, you have to think 10 to 20 years ahead, by the way your parents will pass away. If you want kids it's better to have em before you get old. Time is limited.

Wanderer78

riclad wrote: »

25 to 30 when u realise its up to you to save a deposit for a house, you have to think 10 to 20 years ahead, by the way your parents will pass away. If you want kids it's better to have em before you get old. Time is limited.

thankfully life is static, and things never change!

Himnydownunder

Himnydownunder wrote: »

You can’t have cop on without a mortgage. It’s a scientific fact (in Ireland at least). The Germans have no cop on, as many of them have no mortgage.

The core Irish life goal seems to be to get a mortgage. Everything builds up to that. Doesn't sit right.

Wanderer78

Luke Dirty Tunnel wrote: »

The core Irish life goal seems to be to get a mortgage. Everything builds up to that. Doesn't sit right.

...its more to do with attempting to increase the security of a critical need, i.e. accommodation

Himnydownunder

Wanderer78 wrote: »

...its more to do with attempting to increase the security of a critical need, i.e. accommodation

In another country maybe. In Ireland there is a phenomenal sense of achievement attached to getting mortgage approval/ buying a house. You are pretty much looked down on by others if you don’t own your own home. The banks are well aware of this, hence the AIB add about a middle-aged couple on the last day of their mortgage, as though it were akin to winning an Olympic gold medal. The Irish psyche around property is quite bizarre. In other countries people just buy a place, they don’t feel it gives them any bragging rights that they own a property.

ILoveYourVibes

One should never act like a teenager. Especially if you are a teenager.

I copped on long before i left my teens.

85603

When you realise that cash=gash the copping on just sort of happens.

Personally I copped on too late and it happened after college. I didn't have the cop on to leave that Year.

ILoveYourVibes

Himnydownunder wrote: »

In another country maybe. In Ireland there is a phenomenal sense of achievement attached to getting mortgage approval/ buying a house. You are pretty much looked down on by others if you don’t own your own home. The banks are well aware of this, hence the AIB add about a middle-aged couple on the last day of their mortgage, as though it were akin to winning an Olympic gold medal. The Irish psyche around property is quite bizarre. In other countries people just buy a place, they don’t feel it gives them any bragging rights that they own a property.

There is the same sense of achievement in every country with doing that.

It's just in Ireland it seems very unwise to do it given what you are getting for the money and our level of earnings.

Its not really our fault in many ways though.

Its a no win situation. We don't have long leases we don't have affordable rents.

Neither renting nor having a mortgage is a good option for many.

But what else are they to do?

Yes they can live with family if they have that option. Not all do though.

I don't really think its a case of Irish people caring what people think of them or feeling judged. Its simply them wanting stability.

Moving from rented accommodation to rented accommodation is tiring.

But you shouldn't care what anyone thinks of your living situation. And if they say anything ....simple ..tell them to start paying a mortgage for you if they want to comment.

Its not bragging rights.

I rarely hear people BRAGGING about their houses etc.

And i mean good for them ..they got what they wanted ! Its not like they are looking down on everyone.

I hope you all get the place of your dreams!

zanador

The day you realise what a gob****e you were when you were a younger adult

ILoveYourVibes

zanador wrote: »

The day you realise what a gob****e you were when you were a younger adult

I was overly serious. And took myself waay too seriously. Also was really hard on myself.

I had to look perfect. I had to please people. Never thought I was good enough.

I had no cop on. Literally people would take advantage of me often.

I am only NOW copping on.

KaneToad

Luke Dirty Tunnel wrote: »

The core Irish life goal seems to be to get a mortgage. Everything builds up to that. Doesn't sit right.

It's not the mortgage that most people want. It's the security of having accommodation that you can control.

If we had a better rental market (good supply & stable prices) I would never have bought a property.

Wanderer78

Himnydownunder wrote:

In another country maybe. In Ireland there is a phenomenal sense of achievement attached to getting mortgage approval/ buying a house. You are pretty much looked down on by others if you don’t own your own home. The banks are well aware of this, hence the AIB add about a middle-aged couple on the last day of their mortgage, as though it were akin to winning an Olympic gold medal. The Irish psyche around property is quite bizarre. In other countries people just buy a place, they don’t feel it gives them any bragging rights that they own a property.

Owning a home is an amazing achievement in life, all the sacrifices, all the hard work, and then to finely own it, to call it yours, yup, its well deserved. Again, I believe, it truly is about increasing accommodation security, its extremely difficult to achieve normal life milestones such as raising kids etc, without this security.

It's important to also remember, advertisement is essentially about lying, creating a fantasy, and banks are in the business of selling debt, so......

85603 wrote:

When you realise that cash=gash the copping on just sort of happens.

Is being lead by desires truly a good way to live?

Sunny Disposition

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

One should never act like a teenager. Especially if you are a teenager.

I copped on long before i left my teens.

Often think some people are born copped on and a few never cop on at all or at least not until way past the age they should have.
Nothing like kids to cop you on, just have no other choice. Mortgage doesn't necessarily cop you on.

Sunny Disposition

Sunny Disposition wrote: »

Nothing like kids to cop you on

If kids don't cop you on.......

who they reflect on then.

jimgoose

How shall we cop on, O Lord? I'm 49, have a mortgage and I've been working in the same place for fifteen years. I recently bought an Airsoft M4A1 rifle with a dot-scope and laser sight, and spent yesterday evening drinking beer and dialling-in the sights while firing a couple hundred rounds at beer-cans.

Hyperbollix

jimgoose wrote: »

How shall we cop on, O Lord? I'm 49, have a mortgage and I've been working in the same place for fifteen years. I recently bought an Airsoft M4A1 rifle with a dot-scope and laser sight, and spent yesterday evening drinking beer and dialling-in the sights while firing a couple hundred rounds at beer-cans.

As you are well aware, the emboldened bit makes everything you said after it completely ok. Admirable even.

Change that bit to "live at home and have been on the scratch for 15 years" then we can debate if you have any cop on!

zanador

Hyperbollix wrote: »

As you are well aware, the emboldened bit makes everything you said after it completely ok. Admirable even.

Change that bit to "live at home and have been on the scratch for 15 years" then we can debate if you have any cop on!

I'll change it to lone parent of a special needs child who received benefits for years due to being unable to leave him. Ever. No sleepovers, no playdates, when he was in school I did part time work.I don't own my own house and it's only in the last five years I've been able to get my life back together somewhat (I'm early 40s).

I'm fairly copped on though, I think. I'm definitely an adult. I'd say the above experiences made me cop on to what life really can be like.

Orange Tiny Terror

Most people’s idea of copping on leads them to getting massively into debt and wasting their best years miserably sitting in an office or factory bragging about mortgages, their boring kids and complaining about their horrible co workers. But someday they can retire, but by then they’ll be too old and tired to really enjoy anything. Very few people have the courage to do what they enjoy and not follow the copped on miserable masses. Modern Irelands horrible work worship culture.

theguzman

I copped-on at 16 and I bought my first house at 31 without a mortgage, I am now in my mid-Thirties and renovating the old grandparents family home again without a penny borrowed. I spent 9 weeks already abroad on the equator this past winter when the lockdown misery tanked here.

I don't drink or smoke and I attribute my financial prudence to this plus early lessons in my teenage years.

Hellrazer

jimgoose wrote: »

How shall we cop on, O Lord? I'm 49, have a mortgage and I've been working in the same place for fifteen years. I recently bought an Airsoft M4A1 rifle with a dot-scope and laser sight, and spent yesterday evening drinking beer and dialling-in the sights while firing a couple hundred rounds at beer-cans.

Id be similar - I think Im getting worse now the kids are teenagers.

Im 46 , recently bought a Oculus headset so Im more a fool with that thing on,built an arcade machine in the 1st lockdown. Now Ive taken up mountain biking - bad things are going to happen there.
I put a hot tub in the garden that we have Saturday drinkies in it until 3 / 4 in the morning most weekends - yep Im definitely copped on.
Im regressing to not having any cop on at all!!!

Himnydownunder

theguzman wrote: »

I copped-on at 16 and I bought my first house at 31 without a mortgage, I am now in my mid-Thirties and renovating the old grandparents family home again without a penny borrowed. I spent 9 weeks already abroad on the equator this past winter when the lockdown misery tanked here.

I don't drink or smoke and I attribute my financial prudence to this plus early lessons in my teenage years.

Fair play. What were the early lessons in your teenager years?

Himnydownunder

It is interesting how most post equate buying a house, or getting a mortgage to having “cop on.” It shows how unique the Irish psyche is and how house prices are at an all time high in the country.

I'm responsible when it comes to my career and finances. I'm still care free and childish in every other aspect of life. I'm middle aged and I still pull the same pranks on my friends that I did when I was a teenager.

I hope that never changes.

theguzman

Himnydownunder wrote: »

Fair play. What were the early lessons in your teenager years?

I travelled to America aged 16-17 and during that trip I just got seriously addicted to money, greed and wealth, I returned home with a conservative viewpoint that money is success and nothing else matters in life and that the pursuit of wealth defines me who I am today, it was a formative trip at a key moment in my personal development, it formed me socially and politically also.

I take a more laid back approach to life now but that trip formed some serious discipline and habits that have stood me well ever since.

Purple is a Fruit

Wording is unclear. Acting like a teenager is being moody, over emotional, melodramatic... most people naturally evolve past that.

If you mean when to stop partying, being a student, travelling, doing temporary/casual jobs... no set age really. I don't see how you can force it one random day. Just happens for most eventually. On average from what I've observed it varies from late 20s to mid 30s.

The ultimate settle-down turning point is becoming a parent though. Moreso than a mortgage. Someone could have a mortgage, a really well paying job, rent rooms to friends and continue partying. But with a child, your responsibilities skyrocket - and that could be at age 18 or 40.

mariaalice

It begins with realising that parents might actually be people and not just an annoying presents in the background trying to stop the fun, it's gradual after that.