Giro D'Italia Stage 11: Perugia to Montalcino (162km)

mr spuckler

retalivity wrote: »

That the Anna Van Der Breggen shot?

Yep, you can imagine the pilots/cameramen looking for similar now any time they're in countryside like that.

Ciccone gone :eek:

Remco really bleeding time now too

MPFGLB

EF have been so gooooooood today

Dcully

Poor Remco in a world of hurt.
Only Yates left as a genuine contender to Bernal I feel.

Brian?

That's the GC over for Remco, he'll lose more than 3 minutes

Almeida up the road there again away from Remco.

EDIT: He's back with him again. Is this inexperience there?

Mefistofelino

Deleted User wrote: »

Almeida up the road there again away from Remco.

EDIT: He's back with him again. Is this inexperience there?

Don't know which of the two will be getting the hairdryer treatment down the phone form Lefevre this evening.

AxleAddict

Bernal lighting the afterburners again...

MPFGLB

I hardly know who won the stage

dastardly00

It was weird how Soler, Ciccone, and Carthy all attacked separately but they ended up going into the red and subsequently got dropped!

Dodge

dastardly00 wrote: »

It was weird how Soler, Ciccone, and Carthy all attacked separately but they ended up going into the red and subsequently got dropped!

So so weird. Like within 5-10 seconds of their attack they were dust

Mefistofelino

Dan Martin down to 18th overall at 7'06"

Brian?

Dodge wrote: »

So so weird. Like within 5-10 seconds of their attack they were dust

I didn’t find it weird. They didn’t blow, Bernal attacked and blew them away.

He’s an absolute beast on the gravel

Paddigol

Bit of a disaster for Dan to say the least.

dastardly00

Mefistofelino wrote: »

Dan Martin down to 18th overall at 7'06"

In terms of stage positions, Formolo and Dan finished 39th and 40th respectively, which was just behind Bilbao, Hindley and Kangert who were all in the Bernal group during the final gravel sector at least. So it shows that Formolo and Dan kept on chasing, even if it was a lost cause.

MPFGLB

Dan could try the breakaway

mayeb nice to win on the Zoncolon ???

Paddigol

MPFGLB wrote: »

Dan could try the breakaway

mayeb nice to win on the Zoncolon ???

Has he lost enough time? Will those in/ around 10 on GC be happy to allow him back up the GC with a breakaway effort? Might need to take it handy on another stage and ship more time to be allowed in a break

neris

https://twitter.com/The42_ie/status/1395048380276019223?s=19

No wonder he lost 6 minutes if hes off doing a race that doesn't start for a few weeks

MPFGLB

Dan is 7 minutes behind bernal...that is enough time to go in breakawy

And goo thing Ineos wont chase but just keep it in check

Dodge

Brian? wrote: »

I didn’t find it weird. They didn’t blow, Bernal attacked and blew them away.

He’s an absolute beast on the gravel

No doubt Bernal would’ve blown them away but their attacks were before his and ended very, very quickly

Vlasov countered Carthy and Bernal followed him, then went flying

DonegalBay

Fantastic stage, too often these hyped stages failed to deliver, but it most definitely did today. I think these lumpy stages often provide better racing and bigger time gaps than mountain stages which can be very processional at times. Sad to see Dan lose big time, but I think he was badly positioned at the start of the first gravel section which is a basic mistake, whether down to himself or his team.

Daroxtar

Brian? wrote: »

I didn’t find it weird. They didn’t blow, Bernal attacked and blew them away.

He’s an absolute beast on the gravel

This.

He stuck with Alaphilippe and MVDP in Strade Bianchi and was brilliant again on the gravel the other day. I like Remco but it's great to see Bernal really back on his game.

Mefistofelino

Daroxtar wrote: »

This.

He stuck with Alaphilippe and MVDP in Strade Bianchi and was brilliant again on the gravel the other day. I like Remco but it's great to see Bernal really back on his game.

But it's not just his gravel game. For a 60kg climber to have the power to stick with Ganna on the flat/downhill was also impressive.

Boscoirl

Didn’t see today’s stage, but there comes a time when you have to stop saying bad luck when Dan misses a split or an attack. It happens in nearly every race these days. If he wants to have GC aspirations he needs to be on the wheel of the top GC guys at all times. Even more so when he has no team capable of helping him out.

It’s beyond frustrating at this stage

Boscoirl

Boscoirl wrote: »

Didn’t see today’s stage, but there comes a time when you have to stop saying bad luck when Dan misses a split or an attack. It happens in nearly every race these days. If he wants to have GC aspirations he needs to be on the wheel of the top GC guys at all times. Even more so when he has no team capable of helping him out.

It’s beyond frustrating at this stage

Said it before here that he's not been 100% right despite his age since the crash with Porte at the Tour that time. Pure madness to have finished the Tour that year and people question Bernal's back.

Brian?

Boscoirl wrote: »

Didn’t see today’s stage, but there comes a time when you have to stop saying bad luck when Dan misses a split or an attack. It happens in nearly every race these days. If he wants to have GC aspirations he needs to be on the wheel of the top GC guys at all times. Even more so when he has no team capable of helping him out.

It’s beyond frustrating at this stage

You're frustrated? Imagine how Dan feels.

TheBlaaMan

Nice piece in CN from Ed Pickering on yesterday stage: The Art of War

....hyperbolic perhaps, but still a good read

mr spuckler

Boscoirl wrote: »

Didn’t see today’s stage, but there comes a time when you have to stop saying bad luck when Dan misses a split or an attack. It happens in nearly every race these days. If he wants to have GC aspirations he needs to be on the wheel of the top GC guys at all times. Even more so when he has no team capable of helping him out.

It’s beyond frustrating at this stage

I saw a quote from Dan (which I can't find now) where he basically he said he wasn't fully switched on approaching the dirt roads and was really badly positioned as a result. I think he'd have lost time yesterday anyway but that's a pretty surprising admission.

mirrormatrix

mr spuckler wrote: »

I saw a quote from Dan (which I can't find now) where he basically he said he wasn't fully switched on approaching the dirt roads and was really badly positioned as a result. I think he'd have lost time yesterday anyway but that's a pretty surprising admission.

https://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/dan-martin-explains-what-happened-to-him-when-giro-stage-11-hit-gravel-sections/

Macy0161

mr spuckler wrote: »

I saw a quote from Dan (which I can't find now) where he basically he said he wasn't fully switched on approaching the dirt roads and was really badly positioned as a result. I think he'd have lost time yesterday anyway but that's a pretty surprising admission.

I read it here

“Personally, I was a bit too relaxed,” Dan Martin said of that part of the stage approaching, and into, the first gravel sections. “Everyone was battling for positions; I got a few pushes and lost my head for a while.

I don't know, Dan is one of my favourite (ever) riders, but seriously how many times has his positioning let him down over his career?

Having said that, I'm all in favour of gravel and pavé in Grand Tours, but opening with a technical descent?

Eurosport had an interview there in the stage 12 build up with Dan from after the stage yesterday and he basically said he didn't want to take the risk it wasn't worth crashing, rode his own pace, his licence is for road cycling.