Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

funnydoggy

Cork2021 wrote: »

This and J&J are the game changers big time! Our freedom day is within our grasp!

MM is terrified at the thought :pac:

DoodleDooBoo

tailgunner wrote: »

I've nothing useful to add unfortunately, but just to say I'm in the same boat. Got my first dose of Pfizer from my GP on 11th June and was told I'd be referred to the HSE for the second dose at a vaccination centre, as the GP was finished with vaccinations.

I'm not due for the second dose till the end of next week, but rang the HSE last Monday just to make sure I'm registered. They couldn't find a record for me, but set one up over the phone.

Then today I got a call from a Dublin number I didn't recognise saying my record wasn't created correctly and they were missing my PPS number and other details, which I definitely gave them already. Sounded dodgy so I decided to ring the HSE Live number instead, and they said my record is fine and they have all the info they need.

Assumed it was a scam call, but I googled the number and I've seen it mentioned in this thread too and it actually seems legit. So now I've no idea what to think. Sounds like I might have two separate records on their system, which doesn't inspire confidence!

I'm going to leave it till the end of next week and if I don't hear anything, I'll start ringing every day until I get somewhere.

Well I'm sorry to hear that you're in the same boat but glad not to be alone! Have you had any joy since? I've kept calling for an update and am just told that a case is still opened and that I should be contacted soon. This thursday will be a month since I should have had my second dose. It's infuriating.

amandstu

Has it been established to what extent the various vaccinations actually slow down transmission?

Can a (percentage) number be put on it? Has it been?

L1011

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

Not saying they were. Saying that if the UK had happened to have a surplus we wouldn't have taken it so as not to embarrass our useless leaders in Brussels.

Micheal Martin effectively weaseled out of that question last Feb or thereabouts. As if we would ever put the national interest ahead of Brussels.

So you're making a statement that is clearly impossible to back up, and using it declare judgement over an unconnected political issue.

Cork2021

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Yeah I did too but I'm just wondering if what the GPs are using is linked to a HSE database or whether they just send in completed doses at the end of the week.

I’d think they’re linked. Only way they can update correctly the numbers again now?

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Cork2021 wrote: »

This and J&J are the game changers big time! Our freedom day is within our grasp!

Can we call it something else? Freedom Day is so right wing British tabloid.

Stark

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Can we call it something else? Freedom Day is so right wing British tabloid.

Victory day? :pac:

growleaves

Stark wrote: »

Victory day? :pac:

V-M day. Victory over Microbes

astrofool

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

Not saying they were. Saying that if the UK had happened to have a surplus we wouldn't have taken it so as not to embarrass our useless leaders in Brussels.

Micheal Martin effectively weaseled out of that question last Feb or thereabouts. As if we would ever put the national interest ahead of Brussels.

The UK were taking in most of their vaccines from Europe and then India, where do the supply of surplus for Ireland come from? From their European supply or their Indian supply?

There was no question for MM to dodge, the UK both flew a kite and shot down that kite on the same day.

Even now, vast majority of vaccines administered in the UK were produced in Europe as they aren't using AZ on <40 year olds.

delly

We shall know it as IP-DAY, indoor pints :pac:

Cork2021

delly wrote: »

We shall know it as IP-DAY, indoor pints :pac:

It’ll be the 3 SSS DAY!! On the lash then!

yerwanthere123

Hoping to get my vaccine soon. I'm a 29 year old male and will be turning 30 in September. What's deemed the best vaccine for someone in my cohort? I always assumed it'd be the Pfizer one I'd get but now have the opportunity to get the J&J one quicker. Any advice?

Apologies if I'm asking an obvious question or it's been done to death btw. I trust the vaccines and the science behind them and I know side effects are extremely rare.

duffman13

sashafierce wrote: »

Just chatting to my mate who works in a pharmacy in South Dublin and she said they are roughly doing 8 vaccines a day and today all 8 were mates or relations of the pharmacy owner. Imagine it will be similar across the board

Roughly 8 vaccines a day, 5 vaccines in a vial, they throwing the other doses down the sink. This is nonsense to be honest. Pharmacies will do them as quick as they can as that's one of the criteria for getting additional stocks above the minimum quantity.

The funny thing is the vast majority only have stock of vaccines from the over 50s ones that were sent out weeks ago. Max a stores has is 50 until at least Wednesday but a lot used a couple of vials in the meantime. Pharmacy appointments will pick up the end of the week. In my place, we aren't assigning any appointments until stock arrives for obvious reasons. And in all my stores, only 3 had stock while the rest had used most of their stock on the older cohorts in early June

Cork2021

yerwanthere123 wrote: »

Hoping to get my vaccine soon. I'm a 29 year old male and will be turning 30 in September. What's deemed the best vaccine for someone in my cohort? I always assumed it'd be the Pfizer one I'd get but now have the opportunity to get the J&J one quicker. Any advice?

Apologies if I'm asking an obvious question or it's been done to death btw. I trust the vaccines and the science behind them and I know side effects are extremely rare.

Just take whatever you get offered! All are very effective!!

charlie14

happywednesday wrote: »

It was never going to materialise when Ireland said the month previous that if the UK did offer any vaccine, they wouldn't take it as the EU program would suffice...

Irish government then proceed to say they knew nothing of a vaccine offer

Brexit jingoism, yes.... why not call their bluff? Ireland win in both cases

There were reports too that Ireland were offered Moderna from Hungary which was also refused and Germany and Denmark sweeped up... over 500,000 doses

I'm obviously in a government loving circle jerk, so I'll leave you neckbeards to **** over your pictures of Leo and enjoy the extended lockdown measures

...and I will leave you to your own rather strange imagination and baseless claims that when challenged on you had nothing to back them up with.

amandstu

Didn't Edwina Curry suggest the UK could give vaccines to Ireland at some stage when on (was it the LL Show)?

And didn't Tubridy (if it was him) suggest at the time that we might be glad of the offer?

About 6 months ago perhaps if memory serves.

lbj666

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

The 1 million jabs will be here soon. Sorting out the logistical issues by copying Denmark's homework :cool:

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1412153949344391168

How much realistically can the MVCs be flexed up to administer theses within a few weeks ..presume GPs Pharmacies may be involved.

L1011

amandstu wrote: »

Didn't Edwina Curry suggest the UK could give vaccines to Ireland at some stage when on (was it the LL Show)?

And didn't Tubridy (if it was him) suggest at the time that we might be glad of the offer?

About 6 months ago perhaps if memory serves.

There was jingoistic spitballing by the UK, at a time when they had nothing to give (they still don't), to impress their local media only.

franciscanpunk

I really hope we starr to here about how the vaccine roll out leads to an end game here in Ireland

charlie14

amandstu wrote: »

Didn't Edwina Curry suggest the UK could give vaccines to Ireland at some stage when on (was it the LL Show)?

And didn't Tubridy (if it was him) suggest at the time that we might be glad of the offer?

About 6 months ago perhaps if memory serves.

Eggwina hasn`t been an M.P. for close to a quarter century. I would not put much store on her rambling on the LLS .

Tyrone212

When is the UK projected to have all adults fully vaccinated?

Strazdas

Tyrone212 wrote: »

When is the UK projected to have all adults fully vaccinated?

I don't think we have a date. Their vaccination programme has run into some trouble and has slowed down considerably.

Micky 32

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1412177383206133761?s=21

rob316

Tyrone212 wrote: »

When is the UK projected to have all adults fully vaccinated?

Mid September

Padre_Pio

happywednesday wrote: »

I'm obviously in a government loving circle jerk, so I'll leave you neckbeards to **** over your pictures of Leo and enjoy the extended lockdown measures

27,000 new cases in the UK. Third highest in the world. Increasing at the same rate as the last wave.

All COVID measures are coming to an end in the next few weeks.

Thankfully deaths are few for now.

Snickers Man

Is there any logic to which clinic/vaccination centre people are being allocated?

I got my first dose (Astro Zeneca) a few weeks ago at the Aviva, which is within walking distance for me. For the second dose, they want to send me to Greystones which, according to Google Maps, is an hour and a half away by public transport.

Surely there is a centre somewhere in my county (which is feckin DUBLIN after all) where I could be accommodated. Is this typical?

Lumen

Strazdas wrote: »

I don't think we have a date. Their vaccination programme has run into some trouble and has slowed down considerably.

What kind of trouble?

They are a month ahead of the best in Europe in terms of doses administered. It's slowed down in June but that's to be expected when you get to the upper reaches of coverage, and we may see the same effect in August.

Corruptedmorals

Interesting. I always knew we received the second dose of Pfizer just over the bare minimum interval. HSE minimum is 17 days apart but EMA is 19 days and Pfizer and CDC say 21 days. It was 18 days apart as the hospital received a bigger delivery than expected so expanded the second dose beyond medical staff who had a longer interval. The side effects were fierce for lots of us which would imply it was too soon. I definitely want a booster shot soon. I wonder why the HSE have the lowest interval..

xboxdad

crooked cockney villain wrote: »

England is fully reopening on July 19th.

Nobody in government or NPHET has specifically said that Irish society actually will fully re open when we have 80% vaccinated fully. There have been terms like "relative normality" but not a single public figure has stated that our old lives will return, not one.

We are told this (80% vaccinated) should happen by late August to late September, but not one public figure has categorically stated that we will be in packed pubs and rammed nightclubs after this date. They are too fond of terms like the new normal and other scutter.

The US has nowhere near this amount vaccinated and even left wing liberal states have all but fully re opened.

England, which has far from 80% fully vaccinated, is pledging to have full pubs and nightclubs three weekends from now.

The North is reviewing their own progress on July 8th.

It is quite possible that on the coming August Bank Holiday weekend young people in Dundalk will at best be drinking in a beer garden but can hop in a taxi to go to a nightclub in Newry.

It is absolutely comical at this stage and MM should be jailed and sued to the poor house over his inept handling of it.

I think it was previously said on this thread that the UK 80% is 80% of population while our 80% (August) is 80% of adults. Very different thing.
Apologies if I remember incorrectly.

klose

growleaves wrote: »

Link



Vaccines do not appear to prevent acquisition and propagation of covid (but we knew that already?)

The nurse who jabbed me yesterday basically gave a statement of facts about the vaccine etc and the last line was basically it won't fully cover you from getting covid, it's to prevent you from getting sick/dying, which is all anyone would care about really.

seamus

xboxdad wrote: »

I think it was previously said on this thread that the UK 80% is 80% of population while our 80% (August) is 80% of adults. Very different thing.
Apologies if I remember incorrectly.

For now, the upper limit for the UK and Ireland is 80% of the total population fully vaccinated, the other 20% are ineligible.

Our original target was 82% of those eligible (i.e. adults) to be offered a vaccine by the end of June. Which was missed because of supply.

If this Romanian deal comes through, the talk is that we could have the entire adult population with a first dose by the first week in August, fully vaxxed by the time colleges go back.

That'd be a full month ahead of our original schedule set out in March. The UK is not expected to finish until October IIRC.

GeorgeBailey

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Can we call it something else? Freedom Day is so right wing British tabloid.

How about "The day most restrictions are lifted".

is_that_so

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Can we call it something else? Freedom Day is so right wing British tabloid.

Let's not commemorate it at all in any way.

stephenjmcd

Snickers Man wrote: »

Is there any logic to which clinic/vaccination centre people are being allocated?

I got my first dose (Astro Zeneca) a few weeks ago at the Aviva, which is within walking distance for me. For the second dose, they want to send me to Greystones which, according to Google Maps, is an hour and a half away by public transport.

Surely there is a centre somewhere in my county (which is feckin DUBLIN after all) where I could be accommodated. Is this typical?

I believe the Aviva, UCD & Greystones are all being used for Dublin & Wicklow as they're the same public health area.

Sure there's people in South Dublin / North Wicklow where Greystones would be easier but they're getting sent to the Aviva.

It's all about where the capacity is & it's possible the Aviva might not be doing AZ on that particular day

airy fairy

Snickers Man wrote: »

Is there any logic to which clinic/vaccination centre people are being allocated?

I got my first dose (Astro Zeneca) a few weeks ago at the Aviva, which is within walking distance for me. For the second dose, they want to send me to Greystones which, according to Google Maps, is an hour and a half away by public transport.

Surely there is a centre somewhere in my county (which is feckin DUBLIN after all) where I could be accommodated. Is this typical?

There is logic.
You are being sent where vaccines are being supplied to. Obviously Greystones has more people getting Astra Zeneca.
This is happening all over the country. And you're luckier than a lot in that you can avail of public transport. Lots can't.
You can always cancel and see if you're offered someplace else.

Padre_Pio

Padre_Pio wrote: »

27,000 new cases in the UK. Third highest in the world. Increasing at the same rate as the last wave.

All COVID measures are coming to an end in the next few weeks.

Thankfully deaths are few for now.

the infection rate increase = death rate increase theory was disproven weeks ago thankfully

there is heavy emphasis on proactive testing in the UK still, so there is a trend towards new infections being asymptomatic infections detected during these tests or from track and trace.... not people getting tested because they are unwell

Which is great news.... bring on 19th... although it's been pretty normal for a few weeks now

stephenjmcd

Interesting to see the numbers done per MVC

https://twitter.com/muirtheimhne/status/1412298268663558144?s=20

questionmark?

Pfizer reporting that they expect 16k staff and relatives to be fully vaccinated by end of July and are in the process of passing the data on those who received it to the HSE. Nice little boost to the vaccine program.

blackcard

seamus wrote: »

For now, the upper limit for the UK and Ireland is 80% of the total population fully vaccinated, the other 20% are ineligible.

Our original target was 82% of those eligible (i.e. adults) to be offered a vaccine by the end of June. Which was missed because of supply.

If this Romanian deal comes through, the talk is that we could have the entire adult population with a first dose by the first week in August, fully vaxxed by the time colleges go back.

That'd be a full month ahead of our original schedule set out in March. The UK is not expected to finish until October IIRC.

What is the anticipated percentage of adults in Ireland and the UK who want to take a vaccine? As the amount of people getting the vaccine slos down and eventually becomes a trickle, will the MVC's be shut down or are they kept in place for boosters? Will there be issues with storage as the roll out slows down? Has any country dosed U18's yet?

is_that_so

blackcard wrote: »

What is the anticipated percentage of adults in Ireland and the UK who want to take a vaccine? As the amount of people getting the vaccine slos down and eventually becomes a trickle, will the MVC's be shut down or are they kept in place for boosters? Will there be issues with storage as the roll out slows down? Has any country dosed U18's yet?

Israel has done U18s and US too. MVCs will wind down in time. Boosters are likely to be aimed at the more vulnerable like care homes etc and GPs/pharmacies a more probable option for the public.

rm212

Corruptedmorals wrote: »

Interesting. I always knew we received the second dose of Pfizer just over the bare minimum interval. HSE minimum is 17 days apart but EMA is 19 days and Pfizer and CDC say 21 days. It was 18 days apart as the hospital received a bigger delivery than expected so expanded the second dose beyond medical staff who had a longer interval. The side effects were fierce for lots of us which would imply it was too soon. I definitely want a booster shot soon. I wonder why the HSE have the lowest interval..

Where do you get the idea that side effect intensity has anything to do with whether the dosing interval was too soon? Are you going to back that up with anything, or are you just pulling that one out of behind?

tailgunner

DoodleDooBoo wrote: »

Well I'm sorry to hear that you're in the same boat but glad not to be alone! Have you had any joy since? I've kept calling for an update and am just told that a case is still opened and that I should be contacted soon. This thursday will be a month since I should have had my second dose. It's infuriating.

No joy since. I rang since and got the same as you - just wait to get contacted. I'm only due for my second dose at the end of the week, so not overly concerned yet.

Hope you get sorted soon, a month late for the second dose is a bit mad!

the Pfizer vaccine has been noted to have more of the common side effects after the second dose, I haven't seen anything relating to intensity of those symptoms because of length of time between doses

seamus

blackcard wrote: »

What is the anticipated percentage of adults in Ireland and the UK who want to take a vaccine?

The percentage of people who say they'll refuse the vaccine is about 7% in the UK and 4% in Ireland, though reducing all the time. The "unsure" percentages funnily are reversed, 4% and 7%. So both countries have about 89% who will definitely take the vaccine.

The UK has bigger pockets of ethnic communities where uptake is low. It would be silly to assume these ethnic communities in Ireland don't have the same issues. The size of the communities is likely smaller though, which means there shouldn't be any major issue with localised outbreaks.

km79

Wife had moderna dose 2 yesterday AM and had a very rough night ! Sore arm as before but also a headache and temperature spikes . She said she felt freezing but at same time had a high temp. No sleep for her

I had Pfizer dose 2 yesterday afternoon . Had sore back and leg muscles as after dose 1. Muscle fatigue I guess you could call it. This time I did have sore arm overnight which I didn’t after dose 1.
Very little sleep but that may be due to the first paragraph

We are heading away to a hotel in our county tomorrow for 3 nights. Glad it’s not today tbh

GLaDOS

30 - 34 can register tomorrow

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1412329785456566273

rm212

GLaDOS wrote: »

30 - 34 can register tomorrow

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1412329785456566273

With those million doses incoming and that group being brought forward, they might be actually planning to open for 25-29 on Monday, when the AZ opt-in opens up, given that move forward perfectly coincides with 30 year olds (the bottom of the 30-34 range) registering on Sunday.

ShadowTech

GLaDOS wrote: »

30 - 34 can register tomorrow

https://twitter.com/DonnellyStephen/status/1412329785456566273

I’d be incredibly appreciative if they could give people 35+ their appointments before moving on to the next group. I’m still here twiddling my thumbs (and checking the portal so frequently I’m now convinced I’m OCD) and nothing. Not trying to begrudge others, just really frustrated.

rm212

ShadowTech wrote: »

I’d be incredibly appreciative if they could give people 35+ their appointments before moving on to the next group. I’m still here twiddling my thumbs (and checking the portal so frequently I’m now convinced I’m OCD) and nothing. Not trying to begrudge others, just really frustrated.

You'll get it before the 30-34s get their appt, and also you'll usually only get 48 hours notice or so. They'll be flying through everyone when the extra 1 million doses arrive early next week.

ShadowTech

rm212 wrote: »

You'll get it before the 30-34s get their appt, and also you'll usually only get 48 hours notice or so. They'll be flying through everyone when the extra 1 million doses arrive early next week.

I really hope you’re right. I don’t mind who gets what first; I just hate the uncertainty of not knowing when I’ll be sorted.