Vaccine Megathread No 2 - Read OP before posting

Strazdas

km79 wrote: »

Turn up 4 weeks to the day at same time ?

No, you cannot turn up at a MVC without an appointment. You have to be down to be vaccinated on the list for the day.

km79

Strazdas wrote: »

No, you cannot turn up at a MVC without an appointment. You have to be down to be vaccinated on the list for the day.

I’ve pretty sure I’ve seen a fair few people on this thread day they haven’t heard back about second dose and were advised to just turn up 28 days later at same time and they would be on the list . Which they did and were vaccinated

celt262

km79 wrote: »

I’ve pretty sure I’ve seen a fair few people on this thread day they haven’t heard back about second dose and were advised to just turn up 28 days later at same time and they would be on the list . Which they did and were vaccinated

Yep have seen that here myself.

mossie

km79 wrote: »

Turn up 4 weeks to the day at same time ?

I was told second appointment would be approximately 28 days not exactly 28 so wait for text.

km79

mossie wrote: »

I was told second appointment would be approximately 28 days not exactly 28 so wait for text.

But if the text hasn’t come is the issue ?

strongback

is_that_so wrote: »

That's why there is a 3 week window, enough time to do all of an age group! That said some of the posts on the appointments thread would disagree with the claim.

A 26 year colleage at work tells me he has a GP appointment to get vacinated next week. He says his 21 year old brother has been vacinated.

strongback

Micky 32 wrote: »

The same happened to me when i went for my first shot. My old school pal with the exact same DOB as myself was sitting in the chair next to me. :pac:

If it is done strictly by date then Croke Park is two weeks behind the Aviva in getting through the 45-49 year olds.

strongback

Got the text 15 days after applying. Appointment in Croke Park.

Getting the first shot 3 weeks to the day after applying (45-49 group)

odyssey06

US finally to start releasing real quantities of vaccines to COVAX, UN and allies

https://www.thejournal.ie/biden-sharing-us-vaccines-5457392-Jun2021/

Van.Bosch

Anyone heard of people rocking up to a mVC at the end of the day chancing their arm? I’m thinking people who have registered and in the system but havnt got an appointment yet?

There must be spare doses or how are the managing that?

everlast75

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Anyone heard of people rocking up to a mVC at the end of the day chancing their arm?

Pun intended?

Strazdas

km79 wrote: »

I’ve pretty sure I’ve seen a fair few people on this thread day they haven’t heard back about second dose and were advised to just turn up 28 days later at same time and they would be on the list . Which they did and were vaccinated

Oh right, but those people are presumably scheduled to be vaccinated that day. I was saying though you cannot just turn up without any appointment at all.

Ll31

Strazdas wrote: »

Oh right, but those people are presumably scheduled to be vaccinated that day. I was saying though you cannot just turn up without any appointment at all.

Yeah just turning up seems wrong tbh.. might ring helpline at weekend and see what they advise

Widescreen

Marine Layer wrote: »

Theres no comparison study between 8 and 12 weeks so I wouldn't worry
Trust the scientists before the armchairs

I see Kingston Mills says AZ vaccine does not protect against serious illness from the Delta variant. We should be given 2nd Pfizer dose instead he says.

Therefore why would anyone bother taking 2nd dose of a vaccine that doesn’t give you a pathway to almost normal life again.

The plus 60 people are going to be at high risk now, crazy stuff

iamwhoiam

Widescreen wrote: »

I see Kingston Mills says AZ vaccine does not protect against serious illness from the Delta variant. We should be given 2nd Pfizer dose he says.

Therefore why would anyone bother taking 2nd dose of a vaccine that doesn’t give you a pathway to almost normal life again.

The plus 60 people are going to be at high risk now, crazy stuff

Not true


The second dose of AZ gives a much higher efficy than the first . 60-66% against the Indian variant .




https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596.amp

ixoy

Folks I finally registered for the vaccine thirty seconds ago but haven't yet gotten an appointment. Should I get on to someone :pac:

stephenjmcd

Widescreen wrote: »

I see Kingston Mills says AZ vaccine does not protect against serious illness from the Delta variant.

Well that's just not true at all and the UK is proving it in terms of Indian variant and groups that would be fully vaccinated. 2 doses are protecting so why wouldn't you get the 2nd.

Polar101

astrofool wrote: »

The full article and headline from one of the virologist behind the study

Sources for what I posted were https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-11963971 and https://www.hs.fi/kotimaa/art-2000008023464.html
but I couldn't find an English version yet so I didn't include the links.

Strazdas

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Well that's just not true at all and the UK is proving it in terms of Indian variant and groups that would be fully vaccinated. 2 doses are protecting so why wouldn't you get the 2nd.

I think Mills' comments have gotten a bit jumbled up. He seems to be urging the state to quickly vaccinate AZ recipients with a second dose of any vaccine, including AZ itself (to combat the Indian variant).

He's talking about a single dose of AZ not being effective and that people need the second dose.

odyssey06

The Journal on UK hospitalisations for Delta variant

Of the 479 people who attended A&E in England between 1 February and 31 May and who were confirmed as having the Indian variant, 309 were unvaccinated while 18 had received both doses.
And of the 137 cases where attendance at A&E resulted in an overnight inpatient admission, 90 were unvaccinated while seven had received both doses.

https://www.thejournal.ie/delta-variant-dominant-uk-5457542-Jun2021/

Widescreen

Strazdas wrote: »

I think Mills' comments have gotten a bit jumbled up. He seems to be urging the state to quickly vaccinate AZ recipients with a second dose of any vaccine, including AZ itself (to combat the Indian variant).

He's talking about a single dose of AZ not being effective and that people need the second dose.

Sorry a bit late! You’re right ,first dose. He still thinks over 60’s should get 2nd dose of Pfizer though as was done in Germany and several other countries.

Strazdas

Widescreen wrote: »

Sorry a bit late! You’re right ,first dose. He still thinks over 60’s should get 2nd dose of Pfizer though as was done in Germany and several other countries.

Well, apparently the plan is to give them the second AZ dose after 8 weeks (providing they can get their hands on sufficient doses). They are planning for this as we speak - it was mentioned at the HSE briefing today.

corkie

ixoy wrote: »

Folks I finally registered for the vaccine thirty seconds ago but haven't yet gotten an appointment. Should I get on to someone :pac:

^^^ Mod: Sci-Fi & Fantasy, Stargate, ZTest

Use the SG & time travel 3 or up to 21 days into future and see when your appointment is? :pac:

majo

iamwhoiam wrote: »

Not true


The second dose of AZ gives a much higher efficy than the first . 60-66% against the Indian variant .




https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-57214596.amp

I also saw a scientific article that described AZ as a “slow burner”. Author said that a few weeks after second dose, AZ gave a very high degree of protection- 80% plus.

robinbird

majo wrote: »

I also saw a scientific article that described AZ as a “slow burner”. Author said that a few weeks after second dose, AZ gave a very high degree of protection- 80% plus.

Apparantly over 90% of those that were given a choice of vaccine for second dose in Spain stuck with AZ. No real evidence it is less affectatious.
Offering different vaccine for second dose would undermine public confidence even further in AZ and they took the right decision not to do so.

Strong argument though for reducing time between doses to 8 or 10 weeks provided there is enough supply. And given that it is only being used for second doses there should be.

robinbird

HSE announces that vaccines administered will be reduced again next week and will probably be at least 50,000 less than two weeks ago. At a time when we should be ramping up we seem to be instead ramping down. Anecdotally MVCs now operating at well below capacity.
And this is a week where Pfizer alone delivered 280,000 doses. Would be very interesting to see how many they are holding in storage at the moment. When they stopped releasing storage figures there were 650,000.

Surely when there are still hundreds of thousands still waiting on registration by age they should be going through the age cohorts quicker and giving out what they have rather than holding vaccines back.

Just this weeks Pfizer delivery alone would probably have done for all the 35-39 yr olds left willing to register.

Van.Bosch

everlast75 wrote: »

Pun intended?

Nope -but it would have been good!

questionmark?

robinbird wrote: »

HSE announces that vaccines administered will be reduced again next week and will probably be at least 50,000 less than two weeks ago. At a time when we should be ramping up we seem to be instead ramping down. Anecdotally MVCs now operating at well below capacity.
And this is a week where Pfizer alone delivered 280,000 doses. Would be very interesting to see how many they are holding in storage at the moment. When they stopped releasing storage figures there were 650,000.

Surely when there are still hundreds of thousands still waiting on registration by age they should be going through the age cohorts quicker and giving out what they have rather than holding vaccines back.

Just this weeks Pfizer delivery alone would probably have done for all the 35-39 yr olds left willing to register.

95% are seemingly in arms within one week. Rollout is generally going well so far.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

https://twitter.com/itvnews/status/1400583251249569796

Polar101

Headline is a bit dodgy.. from the text:

The study found that after just one dose of the Pfizer jab, people are less likely to develop antibody levels against the Delta variant, as high as those seen against the previously dominant Alpha variant, which was first discovered in Kent.