Illegal parking in the city

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 31-05-2021 9:18am

beer enigma wrote: »

It's also illegal to obstruct the road which happens if we all park fully on it.

Who is forcing you to park your private property on the public road or grass verge? Don't buy a car if you can't fit it somewhere legally or safely.

The fact Gardaí are actually advising you to park on a verge illegally doesn't surprise me in the slightest. They actively ignore footpath parking too. And do it themselves outside stations in the city centre.
This wouldn't be acceptable in any other country.

Thelonious Monk · 31-05-2021 9:48am

Narrow residential streets with parking on both sides should be one way if possible, it means there's enough room to park on both sides of the road and ambulances etc can still get through. That seems to be how it works in Spain, from my experience there.

two wheels good · 31-05-2021 10:10am

beer enigma wrote: »

It's also illegal to obstruct the road which happens if we all park fully on it.

No it's not. (Assuming no yellow lines and not single carraigeway with solid white centre line)
Park on the road not on the footpath. It's not complicated.

Mardyke · 31-05-2021 4:09pm

Is it because a lot of people in the 1970s got driver licences without having to do a test, that so many people in Ireland don't know how to drive or know the rules of the road?

Or is it just ignorance, like any other country?

beer enigma · 31-05-2021 4:19pm

two wheels good wrote: »

No it's not. (Assuming no yellow lines and not single carraigeway with solid white centre line)
Park on the road not on the footpath. It's not complicated.

It is illegal to park in a way which interferes with traffic flow or obstructs or endangers other road users

Quote from CCC website

https://www.corkcity.ie/en/council-services/services/parking-services/where-to-park/

beer enigma · 31-05-2021 4:26pm

Mardyke wrote: »

Is it because a lot of people in the 1970s got driver licences without having to do a test, that so many people in Ireland don't know how to drive or know the rules of the road?

Or is it just ignorance, like any other country?

I presume that's pointed at me

Just for clarification, in 39 years of driving, having fully passed the test, I've never had a parking ticket as I've obeyed the rules of the road. If you want to come down to my road and tell the 60+ cars lumped here on match days how to park then good luck to you.

I've been living here 16 years, you obviously know better.

Oh and just for info, the council have written back this afternoon rescinding the ticket as the road is a main thoroughfare for emergency vehicle and exempt from that regulation. Delighted it was an oversight, but obviously I'm just some ignorant

Mardyke · 31-05-2021 4:31pm

beer enigma wrote: »

I presume that's pointed at me

Just for clarification, in 39 years of driving, having fully passed the test, I've never had a parking ticket as I've obeyed the rules of the road. If you want to come down to my road and tell the 60+ cars lumped here on match days how to park then good luck to you.

I've been living here 16 years, you obviously know better.

Oh and just for info, the council have written back this afternoon rescinding the ticket as the road is a main thoroughfare for emergency vehicle and exempt from that regulation. Delighted it was an oversight, but obviously I'm just some ignorant

It was more a general question, really.

By the way, CCC are one of the biggest offenders of illegal parking in the city. They also have zero interest in safety of Cork citizens.

Yer as bad as eachother!

donvito99 · 31-05-2021 4:39pm

beer enigma wrote: »

It is illegal to park in a way which interferes with traffic flow or obstructs or endangers other road users

Quote from CCC website

https://www.corkcity.ie/en/council-services/services/parking-services/where-to-park/

And illegal to park on a footpath or grass verge.

So between the Guards and the council you'll have to park around the corner or build a driveway.

sprucemoose · 31-05-2021 4:40pm

donvito99 wrote: »

or build a driveway.

which you wont get planning permission for unless you know the right people

beer enigma · 31-05-2021 4:45pm

Mardyke wrote: »

It was more a general question, really.

By the way, CCC are one of the biggest offenders of illegal parking in the city. They also have zero interest in safety of Cork citizens.

Yer as bad as eachother!

I couldn't agree more in terms of the council failing daily in terms of allowing shoddy parking in the city which endangers pedestrians and cyclists. I'm 100% with you, but in this instance, unless you know the road, criticism is unfair.

I'm all for the rules and has been proven, obeyed by them. I say again, pick your battles. Respect your opinion but in this case justice done.

We get absolutely slaughtered by match day parking, nothing is ever done. They'd rather spend their resources on one single guy like me that send a bike into to city and get the real offenders

beer enigma · 31-05-2021 4:47pm

donvito99 wrote: »

And illegal to park on a footpath or grass verge.

So between the Guards and the council you'll have to park around the corner or build a driveway.

I'm going multi story, seems to get planning easily

beer enigma · 31-05-2021 4:49pm

Oh and as for one of the cyclists on this thread that pmd me....I'd remind you it was my son that spent 4 months in hospital when a fully grown cyclist hit my kid on the footpath outside of my house.

It wasn't Curb by the way, he's a decent bloke

namloc1980 · 31-05-2021 4:59pm

Mardyke wrote: »

It was more a general question, really.

By the way, CCC are one of the biggest offenders of illegal parking in the city. They also have zero interest in safety of Cork citizens.

Yer as bad as eachother!

What absolutely sums up the Council on this issue is when they changed a lot of their fleet to electric vehicles last year. There was big fanfare and a lot of backslapping and "look how great and sustainable we are" self congratulations going on. Big photo shoots and all:

And then instead of providing appropriate and suitably located charging points for these vehicles in the city centre they just use the Grand Parade and illegally park up on the pedestrian plaza with a charging lead trailing on the ground in the side door to the library, which is a daily occurrence. Shambolic.

Mefistofelino · 31-05-2021 5:03pm

Mardyke wrote: »

Is it because a lot of people in the 1970s got driver licences without having to do a test, that so many people in Ireland don't know how to drive or know the rules of the road?

Or is it just ignorance, like any other country?

There are about three million licences in Ireland - about 10% of those are learner permits.
(Over 35,000 learners are on at least their 4th permit and 1 in 7 of those are on their 11th permit.)

The number of "non-test" licences issued by Sylvester Barrett in 1979 was over 60,000. That was 42 years ago - you can't pin poor driving practices on that for ever. Even if all those drivers were still on the road it only constitutes around 2.5% of the current pool of full licences. And anyone who qualified for a licence under that amnesty would be at least 60 now, so if someone younger than that is driving like a twat, its not the amnesty that's the problem.

The "its the free licences, Joe" trope is up there with "garlic man".