She has a name

is_that_so

Pussyhands wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0525/1223803-major-general-maureen-obrien/

Headline reads on RTE website: "Woman appointed to 2nd highest rank in Defence Forces"

I think it's rather sad that one of the country's main proponents for supposed egalitarianism, RTE, whittles this woman down to, not her achievements or ambitions, but her gender.

"hey everyone, a woman got the job!" is how this reads when it should read "hey everyone, Maureen O'Brien who's been in the force for X years and served on X missions has been appointed to the role"

Could they not have lead with her name and alluded to the fact she was the first ever woman appointed to the post?

Major General Maureen O'Brien is more of a mouthful than first woman. Headlines aim to persuade you to read a piece or in some cases foam at the mouth.

biko

Identity politics at work in RTE newsroom.

Lemon Davis lll

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Her hair looked lovely on the news

It clearly dyed in action

whisky_galore

MikeOxsgreen wrote: »

I'm almost as shocked as the army lads there's a sailor in charge of the defence forces.

I hear the naval service do training in the Curragh...is there a canal up there that practice in?

Feisar

Who else thought this was going to be about a black woman that got shot by the police somewhere?

Midlife crisis man

Her name is Roberta Paulson

Her name is Roberta Paulson

Her name is Roberta Paulson

TP_CM

I just realised the title of this thread is fairly ironic actually.

B.A._Baracus

There's no big deal op.
I get what you are saying, but it's all about making people click into an article. Especially knowing that they have limited amount of characters in the article title on mobiles. So what would intrigue people more, saying her name (which no one knew before yesterday) or saying "first woman..."

WrenBoy

Woman gets important leadership role, feminists upset about it anyway ... and we move on :pac:

padd b1975

Montage of Feck wrote: »

How many men has she killed?

Something tells me men aren't her thing.

whisky_galore

whisky_galore wrote: »

I hear the naval service do training in the Curragh...is there a canal up there that practice in?

I think they put their warships on a truck, and put them in the pond outside Kildare Village shopping centre.

Donald Trump

There was a woman in a place where I used to work and we only found out after a few years that her real name wasn't actually "sugar tits". Her birth cert name was actually "Mary"


Although why her parents had insisted on bringing her up as "sugar tits" is beyond me.


Then again, they were from Offaly

Fann Linn

Pussyhands wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0525/1223803-major-general-maureen-obrien/

Headline reads on RTE website: "Woman appointed to 2nd highest rank in Defence Forces"

I think it's rather sad that one of the country's main proponents for supposed egalitarianism, RTE, whittles this woman down to, not her achievements or ambitions, but her gender.

"hey everyone, a woman got the job!" is how this reads when it should read "hey everyone, Maureen O'Brien who's been in the force for X years and served on X missions has been appointed to the role"

Could they not have lead with her name and alluded to the fact she was the first ever woman appointed to the post?

Says PussyHandsðŸ˜႒ðŸ˜႒ðŸ˜႒

Stovepipe

TP_CM wrote: »

I think that would ignore one of the main points of the article which is that she is female. It's incredibly hard for a female to rise to that level in that line of work. Sure, we can ignore that if we want and document things as if women and men are equal, but to do so would be to completely ignore reality - which is that right now women and men don't progress equally in organisations such as the army. We might not like that fact but changing what is reported doesn't change what's really happening.

Proportionally fewer women go for ANY job in the PDF,not just cadetships and they are less likely to stick it out to get to the top. Every job in the DF is open to women, unlike in many foreign armies that will not allow them to even compete for a particular job. Every year, recruiters go out to all the schools and give career guidance talks to all students and every year, the female uptake is woeful. If a woman passes a cadetship and take sup a post and then stays in it, she is at the tip of a very long line of people who considered it, maybe even tried it and ultimately dropped out.

rightmove

Got the jab there. Pissing rain outside. Lots of people telling you where to park and checking bits and pieces. Then you get inside where its warm and dry. All the people outside in the rain and the misery were men/boys and all the people doing same job inside were women. The stations and details taking had a mix of gender but I was struck how the men and the boys were exclusively left to do the outside stuff and the women/girls got the nicer posts inside from the pissing rain and wind.

I probably wouldnt have noticed or cared a few years ago but with the daily pain in the hole of media agenda setting it was something I noticed for a change. The women suffer more except all the ones I know.

TP_CM

Stovepipe wrote: »

Proportionally fewer women go for ANY job in the PDF,not just cadetships and they are less likely to stick it out to get to the top. Every job in the DF is open to women, unlike in many foreign armies that will not allow them to even compete for a particular job. Every year, recruiters go out to all the schools and give career guidance talks to all students and every year, the female uptake is woeful. If a woman passes a cadetship and take sup a post and then stays in it, she is at the tip of a very long line of people who considered it, maybe even tried it and ultimately dropped out.

That's sort of what I'm saying. It's a difficult organisation for women to join/progress in for whatever reason (it doesn't really matter why - Physical demands/laddish culture/Boys club), which is why it's part of the headline.

I never meant to imply there's someone at the door trying to keep them out - that stuff is snapped up by media immediately these days.

BorneTobyWilde

She's been well drilled and will do a great job.