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I can’t understand why people subscribe when there’s so much free content out there

guy2231

bubblypop wrote: »

Not surprised at the amount of hypocritical posts on here!
It's perfectly ok to watch porn, look at women and girls on onlyfans, but no way is it ok if it's your other half or daughter.

The logical part of your brain does not seem to work, I do not understand your thinking.

If Wendy down the road wants to get in the nip and start taking pictures of herself to sell online then grand, I don't care about Wendy, or if Wendy wants to go around club toilets sucking everyone off then grand, that's great for the lads.

The thing is when it is someone you actually care about it is completely different, you don't look at it the same way, even a normal girlfriend I wouldn't even care (because I don't care about them that much) but if it was someone I really loved like my Mother, daughter, sister or wife I would want them to have more respect for themselves than that.

The point is, a lot of girls think being a slut or whatever is cool when in reality it is similar to being a class clown, everyone will egg you on and laugh with you and you will have a lot of fun but in reality they look at you like a fool and a joke and have no respect for you at all.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd say that OnlyFans is similar to stripping, and would be very careful of anyone engaged in it. When people do this kind of work, it affects the way they think.. and that's important for anyone who is connected to them. It's much the same way with other roles which are aggressively seeking a response from others, as you'll find it affects that person's attitude towards others. (Working in Credit Control/Debt Collections seriously affected my perception of others and stayed with me for a long time after I finished with that role)

I think this is probably the most important point in the thread, whether we want to admit it or not, what we do to make money affects how we think outside of work. But that is true of most jobs, I am solicitor, most solicitors I know are, to some degree, damaged by being solicitors. We see so much of the worst of people it's hard not to be cynical about everyone. A friend of mine who works in family law says she can't go to a wedding now without thinking "yeah, we'll see if this one lasts". I quit family law for much the same reason, you are forever seeing people at their worst doing terrible things to people they once loved. Same with personal injury litigation, you start to see how dangerous our roads are, how unsafe our hospitals are etc. It's knowledge you don't just turn off when you leave the office.

What will OF do to someone's worldview and personality is hard for me to say, I wouldn't know the first thing about it but it strikes me that you would need to be incredibly self-contained to not end up very altered by it as the validation metrics are so tied up into how well you can monetise yourself. Surely everything could become transactional at that point? (Time with friends could be better spent getting ready for the next shoot etc)

pauliebdub

I would not be happy with any of the women in my life doing stuff like that and there's a few reasons for it.

- the contents of OF often gets copied and posted on other free sites that are commonly viewed, therefore it's hard to know where these pics and videos end up and circulate long after the girl decides to quit OF. It could follow her for years.
- it's a worldwide thing so you could get loads of aggressive and degrading messages from creepy guys from anywhere and I think it would have an effect on a young woman's mental health to be subjected to that kind of abuse.
-if the public interest dries up there's a possibility to move on to more extreme material in order to keep the money rolling in.

So no definitely not.

guy2231

guy2231 wrote: »

The logical part of your brain does not seem to work, I do not understand your thinking.

If Wendy down the road wants to get in the nip and start taking pictures of herself to sell online then grand, I don't care about Wendy, or if Wendy wants to go around club toilets sucking everyone off then grand, that's great for the lads.

The thing is when it is someone you actually care about it is completely different, you don't look at it the same way, even a normal girlfriend I wouldn't even care (because I don't care about them that much) but if it was someone I really loved like my Mother, daughter, sister or wife I would want them to have more respect for themselves than that.

The point is, a lot of girls think being a slut or whatever is cool when in reality it is similar to being a class clown, everyone will egg you on and laugh with you and you will have a lot of fun but in reality they look at you like a fool and a joke and have no respect for you at all.

The logical side of my brain works perfectly well, which is how I can see hypocritical behaviour.

guy2231

bubblypop wrote: »

The logical side of my brain works perfectly well, which is how I can see hypocritical behaviour.

Hahaha, is he having us on or what?

So I'm guessing you would have no problem with your daughter getting in the nip taking pictures of herself to sell online?

Judging by your previous posts you would probably encourage it.

guy2231

guy2231 wrote: »

Hahaha, is he having us on or what?

So I'm guessing you would have no problem with your daughter getting in the nip taking pictures of herself to sell online?

Judging by your previous posts you would probably encourage it.

If it's ok for someone to watch women pose or dance or whatever, then why is it not ok for the women to do it?

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

Not surprised at the amount of hypocritical posts on here!
It's perfectly ok to watch porn, look at women and girls on onlyfans, but no way is it ok if it's your other half or daughter.

Lol.

I have no problem with prostitution and would welcome it's legality. I would also have no issue with using a prostitute if I felt it necessary or appealing.

I wouldn't want my mother/sister/daughter to be a prostitute.

Is that hypocritical in your bizarre mind?

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

If it's ok for someone to watch women pose it dance or whatever, then why is it not ok for the women to do it?

It's absolutely ok for them to do it.

But when I watch women in porn, respected is not one of the adjectives I would use.

It's possible to enjoy porn and simultaneously not want them to be girlfriend material.

If you are comfortable with your girlfriend/daughter to flick herself off for a tenner, that's on you and more power to you. Most people would prefer that they have exclusivity when it comes to intimate interactions. Not all, but most.

Must be an awkward **** for you if you watch porn and feel emotionally attached to them too.

Probably the reason only fans exist is for people like that. Ki

cloudatlas

cloudatlas wrote: »

So they are now in successful relationships and have a family. What makes you think they aren't trustworthy?

I didn't say successful. I said that they were married and had children. I know that they have all cheated on their husbands multiple times. I know they're untrustworthy (in terms of a relationship) based on what they've told me, or what I've seen them do.

Westernyelp

SnuggyBear wrote:

He would be sickened. I honestly think I would disown my daughter for better or worse. I'd be disgusted with myself and her.

You would disown your daughter over it? Wow.
That's worse than having an OF profile for me

Ms. Newbie18

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've heard this a lot from guys, but don't be too sure you'd feel that way after a few weeks. I had a similar opinion when I was young, with the usual attitude that it didn't matter as long as she was hot.

However, I had a girlfriend who was a stripper in Oz. I'd met her at the stripclub, got to know each other, and started dating after a while. On the surface, she was wonderful, but after a few weeks, and I got to know her better, it became very different. She was damaged, in terms of how she saw the value of relationships, and being faithful. After we broke up, she set me up with two other strippers, who I dated, with similar results. Absolutely gorgeous, with great bodies, but messed up in the head. Great material for friendships though.

These women are never off-duty, so to speak. They're always flirting with others. They're always seeking to gain the attention of strangers, and convert that into something valuable for themselves. Now, I was never bothered by their jobs, I still feel that we all sell ourselves in different ways to others, and stripping (as long as there's no sex involved), isn't something to get jealous over. All the same, it doesn't stay that way, and invariably, due to all the offers they receive, in the course of their work, the lines blur, and they engage in crap which isn't right [if you want any kind of decent relationship]. And while we were together, I was friends with their friends, their partners, and from conversations, I found that this was common.. extremely common. Some men don't care what their women get up to, who they have sex with, etc.. but they're a minority..

I'm still friends with all three women. They're all finished with stripping, and have made the move towards normalising their lives, but their mindsets haven't changed that much. Their experiences have warped their views of other people, especially men, and they're not very trustworthy when it comes to relationships, even though they've married, and had children since then. Lovely people to have as friends, but not as anything else.

I think there's a lot of willful ignorance when it comes to these situations. The ignoring of realistic appreciation for how people behave. The expectation that someone can be a devil in work, but be an angel in your relationship.. but it simply doesn't work that way. Very few people can completely separate their work from their personal lives, and this is even more so, when their work consists of manipulating other people.

A lingerie model would be an entirely different situation, and I suspect I wouldn't be bothered. Their work is very much under controlled circumstances, and there's no reliance on manipulating others to guarantee income. Their appearance is enough to gain work.. and the lines between work/personal life are very clear. Not so with strippers. Although, I think anyone doing modelling for the big scene (Victoria secret, etc) would have to rely more than on their appearance, and there's likely a lot more going on in the background. A bit like the things many actresses have to do to get roles. But for any average lingerie model, for whom it's a part-time job, or something they only plan to do for a few years, I wouldn't think there's much wrong with it. Really depends on the culture. I've dated models in China, and seen the lifestyles they had, with the need to party with those funding the scene, and I'd be very iffy about it. There's a lot of seediness that goes on in some countries.. and the expectation of what models (both genders) have to do, in order to be successful.

I'd say that OnlyFans is similar to stripping, and would be very careful of anyone engaged in it. When people do this kind of work, it affects the way they think.. and that's important for anyone who is connected to them. It's much the same way with other roles which are aggressively seeking a response from others, as you'll find it affects that person's attitude towards others. (Working in Credit Control/Debt Collections seriously affected my perception of others and stayed with me for a long time after I finished with that role)

I think you're spot on here.

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

Not surprised at the amount of hypocritical posts on here!
It's perfectly ok to watch porn, look at women and girls on onlyfans, but no way is it ok if it's your other half or daughter.

The difference is that the person doing porn, or onlyfans, are essentially strangers. In reality, there's little actual connection between someone watching porn, and the people engaged in porn.

There would be an obvious difference if it was your daughter, sister, etc engaged in porn... and most people would agree that you'd be rather messed up if you watched/enjoyed your own daughters porn videos...

guy2231

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I didn't say successful. I said that they were married and had children. I know that they have all cheated on their husbands multiple times. I know they're untrustworthy (in terms of a relationship) based on what they've told me, or what I've seen them do.

It seems to me most women are like that these days (I could be wrong)they throw themselves at well off guys like businessmen, drug dealers, cool people or whatever for one night stands then when they hit their 30s they settle for nice guys who cannot afford to be fussy about their past behaviour, get married and have kids.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The difference is that the person doing porn, or onlyfans, are essentially strangers. In reality, there's little actual connection between someone watching porn, and the people engaged in porn.

There would be an obvious difference if it was your daughter, sister, etc engaged in porn... and most people would agree that you'd be rather messed up if you watched/enjoyed your own daughters porn videos...

No one was suggesting watching your daughter's porn movies!
Point is, if it's ok for some women to work in porn, why wouldn't it be ok for your female relation to do the same?

It's not about what you watch, it's the attitude to the women and what they decide to do for work.

Ms. Newbie18

guy2231 wrote: »

It seems to me most women are like that these days (I could be wrong)they throw themselves at well off guys like businessmen, drug dealers, cool people or whatever for one night stands then when they hit their 30s they settle for nice guys who cannot afford to be fussy about their past behaviour, get married and have kids.

Sounds like you need to upgrade the type of women you have in your life.

guy2231

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The difference is that the person doing porn, or onlyfans, are essentially strangers. In reality, there's little actual connection between someone watching porn, and the people engaged in porn.

There would be an obvious difference if it was your daughter, sister, etc engaged in porn... and most people would agree that you'd be rather messed up if you watched/enjoyed your own daughters porn videos...

Not bubblypop, I assume he would probably call it hypocritical to enjoy a strangers porn and not your sisters porn.

guy2231

guy2231 wrote: »

It seems to me most women are like that these days (I could be wrong)they throw themselves at well off guys like businessmen, drug dealers, cool people or whatever for one night stands then when they hit their 30s they settle for nice guys who cannot afford to be fussy about their past behaviour, get married and have kids.

You have a very different perspective on women than I have.

guy2231

Ms. Newbie18 wrote: »

Sounds like you need to upgrade the type of women you have in your life.

The thing is a lot of people don't realise this, women don't exactly go around shouting it from the rooftops, if you are in a cirlcle of highly capable men you will come to this realisation a lot quicker while the friend zoned beta males generally don't have a clue.

guy2231

guy2231 wrote: »

The thing is a lot of people don't realise this, women don't exactly go around shouting it from the rooftops, if you are in a cirlcle of highly capable men you will come to this realisation a lot quicker while the friend zoned beta males generally don't have a clue.

I've been single most of my life, actively dating, and I'm usually quite successful in doing so. A few girlfriends at different stages, but mostly single all the same (which is what I want). I'm a professional who gets paid quite well, and I'm extremely well traveled.

And I don't agree with your assessment, since you applied the belief that most women behave this way. Some women do. That's certainly true. But most? Hardly. IMO "Most" women have a few boyfriends (2-4) in their early 20s, might play around a bit while single, and then get married from late 20s/early 30s. Few have that much experience with playing around, and there's little to suggest that they're settling because they didn't manage to snatch their "alpha" male.

Culture plays a large part here. If we were talking about somewhere like Spain, I'd be more likely to agree with you... however, if we're talking about Ireland, then, no I wouldn't.

Westernyelp

guy2231 wrote:

The thing is a lot of people don't realise this, women don't exactly go around shouting it from the rooftops, if you are in a cirlcle of highly capable men you will come to this realisation a lot quicker while the friend zoned beta males generally don't have a clue.

Nope. I think it's you

guy2231

Westernyelp wrote: »

Nope. I think it's you

Well then we will have to agree to disagree.

guy2231

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've been single most of my life, actively dating, and I'm usually quite successful in doing so. A few girlfriends at different stages, but mostly single all the same (which is what I want). I'm a professional who gets paid quite well, and I'm extremely well traveled.

And I don't agree with your assessment, since you applied the belief that most women behave this way. Some women do. That's certainly true. But most? Hardly. IMO "Most" women have a few boyfriends (2-4) in their early 20s, might play around a bit while single, and then get married from late 20s/early 30s. Few have that much experience with playing around, and there's little to suggest that they're settling because they didn't manage to snatch their "alpha" male.

Culture plays a large part here. If we were talking about somewhere like Spain, I'd be more likely to agree with you... however, if we're talking about Ireland, then, no I wouldn't.

They may have only had 2-4 boyfriends I can agree with you on that but the amount of men they have actually had sex with is far higher than the amount of boyfriends they have had.

Anyway this all has nothing to do with the thread let's get back on topic and hear what bubblypop has to say.

B.A._Baracus

bubblypop wrote: »

No one was suggesting watching your daughter's porn movies!
Point is, if it's ok for some women to work in porn, why wouldn't it be ok for your female relation to do the same?

It's not about what you watch, it's the attitude to the women and what they decide to do for work.

I am going to be extremely raw on this one.

This isn't black and white. Very few things are in life.
I'll say this - Many a bloke would ride a girl he deems a 'sl*t' - use her to forfill his own sexual needs then throw her there. He wouldn't date her but has no issue riding her. A lot of women can share the same - they just call the guys 'f*ck boys' - same thing though.

Such people are right. After all, what about the expression of "a whore will only break your heart" ... but that all sounds like hypocrisy doesn't it? But we're all hypocrites.

Here's another form of hypocrisy... say a guy is questioning himself about getting into a relationship with a girl with a established and long sexual past (to put it nicely) but gets advice from people who say its the past, who she was doesn't matter etc. What would the same sort of people be saying if she did the dirt on him in the future?

- "what did you expect"
- "you were mad to get involved"
- "I wouldn't have"

... the same sort. Lol. See, the world is mad at times lol. The lesson is do what you want as everyone else does.

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

No one was suggesting watching your daughter's porn movies!
Point is, if it's ok for some women to work in porn, why wouldn't it be ok for your female relation to do the same?

It's not about what you watch, it's the attitude to the women and what they decide to do for work.

Because, funnily enough, I don't actually respect women who have a face like a painters radio after a group of men ejaculate on them. Viscerally, it may be titillating to see happen, but I wouldn't want my daughter, sister or mother to do it.

I'm assuming you would encourage your female relation to go dogging and video it for the world to see if they were mulling it over?

notAMember

bubblypop wrote: »

No one was suggesting watching your daughter's porn movies!
Point is, if it's ok for some women to work in porn, why wouldn't it be ok for your female relation to do the same?

It's not about what you watch, it's the attitude to the women and what they decide to do for work.

It's because the consumers of porn generally view those women as objects. Or things to be consumed, or ejaculated on as the charmer above has put.

Not as actual real valid human people.


Therefore it all makes sense in the brain. If they're not real people, if they are less than people, lower class/grade/type.... needing "an upgrade" as someone else beautifully put it above, then it's ok.

Dehumanising basically is how it works.

cloudatlas

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Here's another form of hypocrisy... say a guy is questioning himself about getting into a relationship with a girl with a established and long sexual past (to put it nicely) but gets advice from people who say its the past, who she was doesn't matter etc. What would the same sort of people be saying if she did the dirt on him in the future?

- "what did you expect"
- "you were mad to get involved"
- "I wouldn't have"

... the same sort. Lol. See, the world is mad at times lol. The lesson is do what you want as everyone else does.

You are equating someone who is sex positive and is known to enjoy sex 'a established and long sexual past' with someone who is unfaithful. Do you see the problem with that?

I can understand that kind of correlation if the person cheated on their partner to start a relationship with you and then cheated on you but otherwise ye just sound like an old lady clutching her pearls and being a bit puritan about people having sex.

I would have thought it would be better to have a partner who is sexually experienced than one who isn't.

notAMember

notAMember wrote: »

It's because the consumers of porn generally view those women as objects. Or things to be consumed, or ejaculated on as the charmer above has put.

Not as actual real valid human people.


Therefore it all makes sense in the brain. If they're not real people, if they are less than people, lower class/grade/type.... needing "an upgrade" as someone else beautifully put it above, then it's ok.

Dehumanising basically is how it works.

I'm not a charmer. I'll grant you that.

But yes, while watching pornography, the consumers tend to "dehumanise" the actress and actor.

It would be tough to enjoy their content if you didn't.

cloudatlas

cloudatlas wrote: »

You are equating someone who is sex positive and is known to enjoy sex 'a established and long sexual past' with someone who is unfaithful. Do you see the problem with that?

I can understand that kind of correlation if the person cheated on their partner to start a relationship with you and then cheated on you but otherwise ye just sound like an old lady clutching her pearls and being a bit puritan about people having sex.

I would have thought it would be better to have a partner who is sexually experienced than one who isn't.

There is a world of difference, relationship wise, between someone who is sexually experienced and someone who is willing to **** themselves on camera for a tenner.

Rikand

Deleted User wrote: »

I've been single most of my life, actively dating, and I'm usually quite successful in doing so.

Well when you are as good looking as you are Klaz, it's easy to see why

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because, funnily enough, I don't actually respect women who have a face like a painters radio after a group of men ejaculate on them. Viscerally, it may be titillating to see happen, but I wouldn't want my daughter, sister or mother to do it.

I'm assuming you would encourage your female relation to go dogging and video it for the world to see if they were mulling it over?

What about the men?
What do you think of them?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a world of difference, relationship wise, between someone who is sexually experienced and someone who is willing to **** themselves on camera for a tenner.

So it's the broadcasting that's your issue?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Because, funnily enough, I don't actually respect women who have a face like a painters radio after a group of men ejaculate on them. Viscerally, it may be titillating to see happen, but I wouldn't want my daughter, sister or mother to do it.

I'm assuming you would encourage your female relation to go dogging and video it for the world to see if they were mulling it over?

Nobody wants to see their family doing porn, because they're more than likely jerking off while watching.

Question is, are you anti-porn? And if not, who do you think should be acting the female parts, if not someone's wife or girlfriend or daughter?

B.A._Baracus

cloudatlas wrote: »

You are equating someone who is sex positive and is known to enjoy sex 'a established and long sexual past' with someone who is unfaithful. Do you see the problem with that?

I can understand that kind of correlation if the person cheated on their partner to start a relationship with you and then cheated on you but otherwise ye just sound like an old lady clutching her pearls and being a bit puritan about people having sex.

I would have thought it would be better to have a partner who is sexually experienced than one who isn't.

again to be so raw ...
Look, if you want to date someone with a long and chequered sexual past then that's your call. I wish you the best. If someone else says "fu*k that" and doesn't that's their choice too.

The way the world works is that you have your own certain beliefs, thoughts, code of ethics, whatever... and so does everyone else of the 7.5 billion people on the planet.

You can come up with garbage like "you sound like an old lady clutching her pearls" all you want. It does not give your opinion more weight than the next. So just live your life. You're not going to agree with everyone on everything.

Rikand

Rikand wrote: »

Well when you are as good looking as you are Klaz, it's easy to see why

haha.. I think you know that isn't what works for me. Too tall, too skinny, and a shaking disorder to shake the apples from the trees.

However, it pays to learn how to communicate effectively, and understand/appreciate what women say (and what they don't). It also helps to pick up experience or a wide range of subjects to talk about, without making you sound like an expert (or arrogant).

Honestly, the biggest thing that helped me was getting out of Ireland.. I was always an utter disaster for dating here. :pac:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Nobody wants to see their family doing porn, because they're more than likely jerking off while watching.

Question is, are you anti-porn? And if not, who do you think should be acting the female parts, if not someone's wife or girlfriend or daughter?

The issue (from the previous page or so) is if you know them personally... not a stranger (who is, naturally, someone's wife/daughter/etc).

cloudatlas

Deleted User wrote: »

There is a world of difference, relationship wise, between someone who is sexually experienced and someone who is willing to **** themselves on camera for a tenner.

That isn't what he said or what I said.

cloudatlas

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

again to be so raw ...
Look, if you want to date someone with a long and chequered sexual past then that's your call. I wish you the best. If someone else says "fu*k that" and doesn't that's their choice too.

The way the world works is that you have your own certain beliefs, thoughts, code of ethics, whatever... and so does everyone else of the 7.5 billion people on the planet.

You can come up with garbage like "you sound like an old lady clutching her pearls" all you want. It does not give your opinion more weight than the next. So just live your life. You're not going to agree with everyone on everything.

What is this weird 'to be so raw' thing you keep going on about.

Your comments make me cringe because they hark back to a Catholic Ireland that a lot of us are trying to escape. The idea that someone is somehow 'damaged goods' if they are sexually experienced. Live your life but I think it's sad. Sorry to be so raw.

cloudatlas

cloudatlas wrote: »

That isn't what he said or what I said.

Ok, I'll ask directly.

Would you approve of, or encourage, a female relative to masturbate in front of strangers for ten euro?

Would you be happy to be in a sexual and intimate relationship with a woman who would make custom videos catering to the whims of people who want to masturbate to her?

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ok, I'll ask directly.

Would you approve of, or encourage, a female relative to masturbate in front of strangers for ten euro?

Would you be happy to be in a sexual and intimate relationship with a woman who would make custom videos catering to the whims of people who want to masturbate to her?

What if it was a male?

cloudatlas

cloudatlas wrote: »

What is this weird 'to be so raw' thing you keep going on about.

Your comments make me cringe because they hark back to a Catholic Ireland that a lot of us are trying to escape. The idea that someone is somehow 'damaged goods' if they are sexually experienced. Live your life but I think it's sad. Sorry to be so raw.

Sexually experienced is a world of difference to someone who performs sexual acts for money.

There is a huge false equivalence when you compare it to prudish Catholic outdated attitudes

bubblypop

bubblypop wrote: »

What about the men?
What do you think of them?

I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with them either

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

So it's the broadcasting that's your issue?

Certainly. If my other half was willingly and actively gratifying someone else sexually, I'd have a major problem

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with them either

But you said you don't respect the women in porn, how about the men? What are your feelings about them?

It's weird how like it's almost viewed as being prudish now if you have issue with this sort of thing..

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Certainly. If my other half was willingly and actively gratifying someone else sexually, I'd have a major problem

So you wouldn't have a threesome?


A woman you care about has definitely had a load over her face, where does this fall in your book?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Nobody wants to see their family doing porn, because they're more than likely jerking off while watching.

Question is, are you anti-porn? And if not, who do you think should be acting the female parts, if not someone's wife or girlfriend or daughter?

I'm certainly not anti porn.

It's of no consequence to me who is doing the acting. They've made their choice. I wouldn't want it to be my relative or partner.

More power to them of that's their informed choice.

I won't hold them in high regard though

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

It's weird how like it's almost viewed as being prudish now if you have issue with this sort of thing..

There's plenty of discussion going on, get involved instead of hurling from the ditch.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm certainly not anti porn.

It's of no consequence to me who is doing the acting. They've made their choice. I wouldn't want it to be my relative or partner.

More power to them of that's their informed choice.

I won't hold them in high regard though

That does sound a bit contradcitory, to be honest "power to them - but I won't hold them in high regard".

You also sound very much anti-porn. Not in a legal sense - I'm not suggesting that you want it banned or anything - but in a moral/ethical sense. It's kike the age old traditional religious, "I have nohting against homosexuality/divorce/aboirtion, but I don't want it in the family".

guy2231

bubblypop wrote: »

But you said you don't respect the women in porn, how about the men? What are your feelings about them?

Well the men aren't the ones getting bent over and f*****, at least not most of the time.