Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

faceman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117679139#Comment_117679139

If you or one of your family tests positive you must immediately self-isolate at your place of accommodation. Isolation means one well ventilated room preferably with individual bathroom access and away from other members of your party. You cannot leave your accommodation and you must notify the Valencian Health Service.

They will provide support and medical advice, and make recommendations based on your circumstances, your physiological condition, and your vaccination status. They might ask you to test again with an RT-PCR and you may have to isolate for 10-days. You may be moved to a hospital or a secure location if your condition requires treatment. If you are required to self-isolate, you can ask for a certificate of recovery after 10-days without the need for a further test ...

From the official Spanish guidance:

SPAIN TRAVEL HEALTH

https://www.spth.gob.es/faq?tab=2

STRATEGY FOR EARLY DETECTION, SURVEILLANCE AND CONTROL

https://www.mscbs.gob.es/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/documentos/COVID19_Estrategia_vigilancia_y_control_e_indicadores.pdf

josip

Got Antigen 'spot' tested entering Greece this evening.

Only Iriish adults in the car had to undergo the test.

Nasal swabs are starting to become my least favourite thing.

sy_flembeck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117678896#Comment_117678896

That was worth a 'like' for the image it planted in my head alone. Although I added an 80" telly to it

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117679945#Comment_117679945

Pcr tests are valid for 72 hours.

You aren't required to have the result until arriving. Take the test the day before and it's still 24 hours in time

mrsherself

I have an Italian problem. On their travel regulations, they say you need the travel cert which will show that you've had the two shots plus 14 days.

I have the travel cert but it will be 2 shots plus 8 days.

Here is the problem: according to Pfizer themselves, plus Irish travel advice, plus the Department of Health in Italy itself, I will be fully vaccinated after 7 days.

For some bizarre unknown reason, (personally I think a slip up - the other vaccines take 14 days so they've lumped them all together), contrary to Pfizer's own advice and their own Department of Health, their travel regulations are at odds.

Has anyone travelled to Italy on a travel cert with less than 14 days?

Do they even look at the date on the cert?

It's frustrating because I will actually be fully vaccinated.

Happydays2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681713#Comment_117681713

It is annoying but you may not be allowed on the plane. Randox do PCR tests for 69 euro.

errlloyd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681713#Comment_117681713

I am the same in France. Fully vaccinated according to Ireland with one dose of J&J, but another week till I am fully vaxed in France. Whats worse in France is you need a pass to go into any public indoor place (basically). So I'll be doing anitgen tests every 2 days :(

glic83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681713#Comment_117681713

It's down to the destination country and what they deem fully vaccinated, Spain, Italy & Germany are 2 shots plus 14, France is 2 shots plus 7 days, Croatia deem you fully vaccinated the day of/ day after you 2nd dose. Different rules apply for the J&J single jab.

I'll be 3 days shy of 14 days when travelling to Lanzarote so will just get an antigen before going and won't need anything coming home

Wrinkly runner

Ok lads.Few stupid questions.

Printed out boarding passes.Says "no covid documents uploaded"at too of page.

Printed out Eu digital covid certs.

Cant finish filling out spanish travel cert till late this evening.

Do you have to upload all documents to ryanair boarding pass to fly or if i print out everything separate is that ok.

Not even sure how to upload eu digital covid cert to spanish website,for qr code later on,to be honest.🙁

yoshimitsu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117681713#Comment_117681713

I wouldnt gamble on it, just get an antigen for trip over and you'll be all set for your trip back with the DCC.

I have the feeling some of the policies in Italy need to be updates e.g. they require antigen for kids over 6 which is at odds with what most of Europe is doing. I've booked a test for my daugher the day before flying to Pisa but I'll checking policies for the next 10 days hoping they'll adapt to the rest of Europe.

TomSweeney

So UK are allowing people fully vaccinated from US/EU to skip quaranteen ... do they still need PCR's ?

Amirani

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682531#Comment_117682531

Yep, still need pre-departure test (can be antigen) and PCR after arrival. The only changes is that those vaccinated won't have to do 10 days quarantine on top.

LeCelso

I asked this question a weok ago and wondered how folks have gone on since....

Has anyone experienced any issues travelling two/from Spain when suing the HSE vaccine card (if you have not yet received the DCC) ?

TomSweeney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682779#Comment_117682779

Wow !

So I guess this is their plan from now on ?

Can forget about any PL matches I guess...

Amirani

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683401#Comment_117683401

Not sure how long it will last for. Doesn't apply for those coming from Ireland by the way - no testing or quarantine required in that case (you're treated same as if you came from within the UK).

mrsherself

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682165#Comment_117682165

Yeah I know. I suppose I was trying to avoid having to get the test done because I've never had one.

I know what you mean though. Safer to get test. The whole thing is quite stressful. I don't know how other people feel. Obviously I don't have to travel so it's a stress I've added myself.

stargazer 68

Heading to Italy ourselves. Both fully vaccinated, well over the 14 days. Only other thing is the EU Passenger Locator Form. Is that it or have I missed anything vital?

hmmm

The CDC in the US had data leaked which showed that Delta was as contagious as chickenpox. To be honest, from a travel perspective I take this as good news - we're all going to be exposed to this over the next few weeks (or have already), this isn't going to drag on - get vaccinated or take your chances.

It's a bit unfortunate for people trying to plan holidays in August, but I expect September, October, even November to be manic. December and Winter will probably see a resurgence in cases just because it's Winter and indoors and is a bit more uncertain. For most people who are vaccinated this virus is now of little concern - unless you plan on visiting or work with very frail elderly relatives or people who are very sick with immune deficiencies.

I'm personally expecting a bit of nervousness about travel and going through airports etc., but it feels like there is a dam waiting to burst - and once the first people start returning back from abroad, there will be a lot of others who decide to go for it. I think the travel companies and the destinations (particularly around the Med) have to figure out a way to support people who may get into difficulties abroad (e.g. catching Covid and can't get on a flight home). For most vaccinated people that is going to be a day or two in bed in the worst case, but the problem is the disruption (and stress) about potentially missing flights etc. - crack that problem and lots more people will travel.

Just my tuppence.

Ellie1988

Some news reports that portugal are starting a slow reopening, starting with restaurants opening later etc. Just wondering from anyone whose been there lately/there now...what exactly is open now? Reports say bars have been closed since March 2020 and that they won't open til this October....can you go get a casual drink in Portugal at the moment or how locked down are they?

allthingscovid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117679218#Comment_117679218

OR.. You can wait 2 weeks after you are fully vaccinated then you can return home without having to quarantine yourself or get tested and you can spread the virus at ease without anyone checking.

plodder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117678295#Comment_117678295

Very quick last Wed night. No checking of any documents other than passports that I could see.

Del Griffith

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117682070#Comment_117682070

You'll be fine with the print off. The upload is just for convenience.

faceman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117684875#Comment_117684875

Yeah there’s a meme going around with my American friends about it

The US is really highlighting the Delta risk to vaccinated people which is way over the top compared to Ireland and the EU. I’m hearing American friends say that some vaccinated people are afraid to socialise again

TomSweeney

So it seems Norway is going the Australia route , right now a vaccine cert won't get you in the country - only if you are a green country - but a green country doesn't require pcr, quarantine OR a vaccine cert ..orange and worse (basically most places in the world) even a vaccine cert won't get you in, there is a list of exceptions for residents and citizens or students - but tourists are a no no.

very dystopian, what is the point in getting the vaccine.

Also, how can they get away with this being in the Schengen zone ?

https://www.udi.no/en/about-the-corona-situation/i-am-abroad/residing-in-the-eu-eea-schengen-or-the-uk/

VG31

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117688501#Comment_117688501

It doesn't say that in your link.

All EU/EEA countries

If you are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or recovered from COVID-19 during the last six months, you can travel to Norway now if you can provide documentation for this in a verifiable way. You must be able to: 

present a Norwegian, Swedish or Danish COVID-19 certificate with a QR code that can be verified by the Norwegian authorities, or 

present a COVID-19 certificate following the EU rules for digital corona certificates

You can travel from any country if you can provide documentation for one of the requirements listed above.

If you live in a green country/area and have stayed in a green country/area for the last 10 days, you can travel to Norway now. Please note that you cannot travel through orange or red countries/areas on your way to Norway unless you are fully vaccinated and can document this in a verifiable way.

Also from https://www.schengenvisainfo.com/news/norway-removes-iceland-italy-san-marino-from-its-covid-19-safe-countries-list/

However, travellers who have been vaccinated and those who have recovered from the disease are not required to follow quarantine rules or other measures imposed to stop the spread of the virus.

Happydays2020

Aer Lingus are dying to be back in the air but they are playing the Covid card all the way - no Lounge, no priority boarding, no in flight shopping, no Irish breakfast. T2 today had no fast track which I had paid for. Covid May end but Jaysus but Ryanair is looking a lot better .

Van.Bosch

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683401#Comment_117683401

We are exempt due to CTA, no requirement for anything coming from Ireland to England.

sy_flembeck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117688771#Comment_117688771

When it came to all my refunds over the last 18 months Ryanair were far better, easier and quicker to deal with

dodzy

Just back from 12 days in Majorca. Waltzed through both sides. No issues over there at all. Just have the Spanish PLF and Irish PLF with you before you go (you obviously don’t need the Irish one till the return leg but you might as well do it when you’re doing the Spanish one for convenience as you don’t have to wait until 48hrs before travel to complete it like you do with the Spanish form).

Masks in shops and hotel foyers but not enforced by anyone. Everywhere else is pretty much outdoor dining / drinking primarily which in the 30 plus C range is preferable anyway, with no requirements for mask wearing. Weather as you’d guess was fab. Only wait was the usual Ryanair cattle market in Palma. Zero social distancing but masks everywhere in airport as expected. They just glanced at the Irish PLF at baggage check in; issued a stub & that was it until you got to the gate. Amazed at the amount of tools who STILL end up swapping shîte between suitcases in a frenzied panic at checkin because they are over weight. The world and it’s mother knows at this stage how enforced Ryanair are particularly on the return legs.

At passport control in DUB on re-entry, choose self service kiosks at passport control, scan the passport, look at the camera, and you’re in; no questions or need to produce the PLF.

So happy now I made the decision to travel. Easiest airport experience ever, on both sides.

faceman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117688501#Comment_117688501

Definitely not the Australian route. They have a comprehensive list of exemptions for travel to Norway from orange/red list countries. But it does seem for the average tourist its not possible right now.

Dont forget Norway is not an EU country and are associate members of Schengen.