Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

Bit cynical

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

1) If you do not avail of the HSEs Day 5 PCR test, then you must stay at home for 14 days and cannot WFH.
2) If you do avail of the HSEs Day 5 PCR test, you cannot WFH for Day 1 - 5, but can WFH for Day 6 - 14. You still cannot go back to work from day 6 - 14. They have openly said that this is "in addition to" the general government requirements.

Seems a bit silly on the face of it that you can't work from home until you've had a PCR test. It is as if they are worried about transmission of the virus through the computer screen or phone.

mmclo

Dr. Em wrote: »

Challenge accepted. ;-) Yes, I have too much time on my hands.
At a quick read through ReopenEU, Belgium, Cyprus, Estonia, Greece, Iceland, Latvia, Malta, Romania, Slovenia, and Switzerland are not accepting any tests other than PCR.
Hungary is unclear, but foreign nationals have to apply to the police for permission to enter the state, which makes it a moot point for most Irish citizens.
Edit: those are current restrictions. It doesn't show their plans for after July 1.

But many/most of these apply the ECDC colour code which we seem to have forgotten, so no test for Green or Orange

Tenzor07

josip wrote: »

I would have thought that on a Dublin-bound flight, the HSE paper card cert thingy would be acceptable as proof of vaccination?
I can understand immigration at other EU countries being a bit dubious of our piece of paper, but surely Ireland (and any airline flying here) can't refuse to accept it as proof of vaccination?

The HSE paper card thing is accepted... Just waiting on the Irish to get the finger out and setup the QR code/Green cert.

Tenzor07

Barna77 wrote: »

I'm booking flights to Spain in September.
Now I live in hope that the "vaccine passport" application system doesn't collapse too whenever it's available

I checked some of the prices to say Alicante in September.. My god... around €280 - 300 for one person return with cabin bags... :eek:

mmclo

M_Murphy57 wrote: »

Yeah but the lads working in the lab are Irish too.

What if *they* put butter or gin & tonics into your test to tamper with the result?

Theres no end to our thickness/untrustability as a nation tbf.

And as pointed out on the radio why would people fake a positive result!

mmclo

Skippette wrote: »

But as you said from the 19th the DCC applies. So a PS/CS worker cannot be discriminated against someone working in the Private sector.

If you go away before the 19th, the above rules apply. If after and within the EU there shouldn't be any issue.

Your boss/line manger may still have to be told in case you decide after the 19th to go on a round the world trip(tongue firmly in cheek) and the handbrake mechanism is applied which may result in extra tests or quarantine.

That's my reading of it anyways?

Where the public sector unions?

Lumen

mmclo wrote: »

And as pointed out on the radio why would people fake a positive result!

If you did it more than a month before travel you wouldn't need a PCR test because you'd count as recovered from COVID.

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

The HSE paper card thing is accepted... Just waiting on the Irish to get the finger out and setup the QR code/Green cert.

Accepted by the airline? Or by whom?
Where have you seen evidence that the HSE vaccination card is accepted?
I'm not being contentious here it's just that if someone rocks up to a check in desk with a HSE card and are told a pcr is needed to return to Ireland, they've missed their flight in my depart 18th arrive after midnight so its the 19th of July example

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

I checked some of the prices to say Alicante in September.. My god... around €280 - 300 for one person return with cabin bags... :eek:

Business class is cheaper, better service too

jimmycrackcorm

Marine Layer wrote: »

If its to be used on the 19th,registration for it has to be before that
Where is the 17th date coming from?

I think from my post in the Spain travel thread. I asked my vaccinator about what they in the HSE knew and she told me it is getting actually released on the 17th in time for the 19th travel use. Apparently, some HSE personnel has been trialing it hence the inside information.

Chris_5339762

Bit cynical wrote: »

Seems a bit silly on the face of it that you can't work from home until you've had a PCR test. It is as if they are worried about transmission of the virus through the computer screen or phone.

Its more to do with "Its ok, I'll travel because I can just WFH". Deliberately banning people from WFH for the 14 days makes it simply not worthwhile travelling.

jimmycrackcorm

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

I think from my post in the Spain travel thread. I asked my vaccinator about what they in the HSE knew and she told me it is getting actually released on the 17th in time for the 19th travel use. Apparently, some HSE personnel has been trialing it hence the inside information.

Pound to a penny says there will be a geo locator block on applying for it outside Ireland
I use a smart dns here for U.S Netflix and you cannot access the hse portal when it's turned on
You get an error message to say its not available outside Ireland

mmclo

josip wrote: »

I would have thought that on a Dublin-bound flight, the HSE paper card cert thingy would be acceptable as proof of vaccination?

I can understand immigration at other EU countries being a bit dubious of our piece of paper, but surely Ireland (and any airline flying here) can't refuse to accept it as proof of vaccination?

I don't think it contains the information set out in the relevant Statutory Instrument http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2021/si/173/made/en/print

Tenzor07

Marine Layer wrote: »

Accepted by the airline? Or by whom?
Where have you seen evidence that the HSE vaccination card is accepted?
I'm not being contentious here it's just that if someone rocks up to a check in desk with a HSE card and are told a pcr is needed to return to Ireland, they've missed their flight in my depart 18th arrive after midnight so its the 19th of July example

I've seen it, someone presented the HSE card you get after the jab and was allowed board, so no issues there.... not sure about coming into Ireland but they're hardly likely to refuse to accept your HSE card...

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

I've seen it, someone presented the HSE card you get after the jab and was allowed board, so no issues there.... not sure about coming into Ireland but they're hardly likely to refuse to accept your HSE card...

Where? In Dublin Airport ? heading where ? What airline? I thought that was done at check in not at the boarding gate
Hardly likely isn't certainty
You'd need to know its the policy

northcider85

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/government-should-issue-covid-travel-certs-immediately-says-ryanair-1.4596183

Ryanair leading the way!

Bit cynical

Tenzor07 wrote: »

not sure about coming into Ireland but they're hardly likely to refuse to accept your HSE card...

Logically they should not have a problem with it if Spain is accepting it, but that is making an assumption. An expensive mistake if wrong.

mmclo

Belgium - Over 650,000 people already registered for Belgian travel certificate

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/174302/people-belgium-travel-certificate-european-union-digital-covid-certificate-travel-abroad-test-vaccine-digitaal-vlaanderen/

How do you get the cert of you got called by the hospital for your vaccine, or got it through your gp?

Gael23

TomSweeney wrote: »

FYI Spain to drop the nonsensical outdoor mask wearing law soon - I'm hearing from July 1


https://english.elpais.com/spain/2021-06-16/spanish-pm-announces-that-face-masks-will-soon-not-be-mandatory-outdoors.html

I saw that a few days ago but to doesn’t give any timeline .

Tazz T

mmclo wrote: »

Belgium - Over 650,000 people already registered for Belgian travel certificate

https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/174302/people-belgium-travel-certificate-european-union-digital-covid-certificate-travel-abroad-test-vaccine-digitaal-vlaanderen/

The system crashed in Germany with queues outside pharmacies two months. You can just imagine the chaos here as I'm sure we won't get a two week run-in here.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/14/germans-told-to-be-patient-as-chemists-start-covid-vaccine-pass-scheme

faceman

Tenzor07 wrote: »

I checked some of the prices to say Alicante in September.. My god... around €280 - 300 for one person return with cabin bags... :eek:

You can thank the Irish government for those high prices. The impact to regional airports in Ireland outside of Dublin due to the restrictions means that the cork/Shannon/Kerry routes to Alicante are severely limited in September

If it’s manageable you might get a better price from Belfast

Chris_5339762

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

Public sector block on travel is still in place.... no non essential travel until the 19th. You have to inform your employer if you are going abroad and must book leave for the 14 days upon your return.

You cannot work from home by default during this time.

1) If you do not avail of the HSEs Day 5 PCR test, then you must stay at home for 14 days and cannot WFH.
2) If you do avail of the HSEs Day 5 PCR test, you cannot WFH for Day 1 - 5, but can WFH for Day 6 - 14. You still cannot go back to work from day 6 - 14. They have openly said that this is "in addition to" the general government requirements.

I can still see a "no non essential travel" or some other restrictive **** for public sector staff come the 19th July. I can't see them opening the floodgates. There'll be something.

Of course this would the thrown out of court very quickly, but no-one has taken this policy to court yet.

Oh but aren't the public sector unions always going to court and going on strike?!?!? I'm sure I read that here or the journal before

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How do you get the cert of you got called by the hospital for your vaccine, or got it through your gp?

Presumably you mean a registered practice that's in contact with the hse and uploads your vaccination record

Lumen

Lumen wrote: »

If you did it more than a month before travel you wouldn't need a PCR test because you'd count as recovered from COVID.

Not from a private antigen test you wouldn't

ShineOn7

northcider85 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/government-should-issue-covid-travel-certs-immediately-says-ryanair-1.4596183

Ryanair leading the way!

Last week, Minister of State, Ossian Smith confirmed that the State could immediately issue certificates to more than one million Irish residents who registered for vaccination through the Health Services Executive portal.

What way will they work the hundreds of thousands who got the jab via their GP/not on the portal?

Bit cynical

Bit cynical wrote: »

Seems a bit silly on the face of it that you can't work from home until you've had a PCR test. It is as if they are worried about transmission of the virus through the computer screen or phone.

It's 100% public image.

Imagine the outcry if a public servant was working from home after traveling against a government advisory!

(it has applied to essential travel since March as well)

ShineOn7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What way will they work the hundreds of thousands who got the jab via their GP/not on the portal?

You will need to apply

KanyeSouthEast

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

You will need to apply

On the portal?

ShineOn7

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

You will need to apply

So there'll be a travel cert portal and you'll input your PPS etc?