Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

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Travelling to Ireland tomorrow, PCR test done.

Marcusm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

No, you are recognised as vaccinated for travel on the first dose the last time I read it.

What happens is you miss or never get the second, I dunno

Definitely not for Ireland. The vaccine “bonus” after a single dose of AZ only was palpably introduced as a sop to the elderly. It was made clear during the week that this would not apply for Ireland’s DCC. The cynic is me partly suspects this is one of the reasons for the reduction to 8 weeks in the AZ dosing and the statements that they expect all AZ to be given by 19/7.

Other countries may permit unvaccinated or incomplete vaccination programmes but that would not satisfy the cert.

josip

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

No, you are recognised as vaccinated for travel on the first dose the last time I read it.

What happens is you miss or never get the second, I dunno

Have you got a link?
I've googled and all I can find about being "fully vaccinated" is the Citizens Information page
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/vaccinations/vaccines_for_covid19.html

and an Irish Times page from May saying 2 weeks after final.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/what-is-the-eu-digital-covid-certificate-1.4578234

In other news, there are now 16 countries using the EU DCC portal.
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2021/06/16/eu-covid-19-digital-pass-countries-begin-using-new-travel-system

Van.Bosch

Am I right that if Ireland moves to Amber or green, then the only entry requirement for Spain is the online form? It seems the latest list of risk countries in the EU is starting to go down, we are on it as we are grey due to providing no data.

ronano

When can we expect the government to say the requirements for post 19th july ireland to uk travel for those vaccinated?

CruelSummer

ronano wrote: »

When can we expect the government to say the requirements for post 19th july ireland to uk travel for those vaccinated?

After the comments of NPHET yesterday, it wouldn't actually surprise me if Ireland was deliberately being slow about providing data which will then put unnecessary testing in place re EU travel. Sick to the teeth of the lot of the buffoons in charge. Complete insult to the tax paying population of this country that this is how families are to be treated after such a tough year while our EU counterparts are supported and helped every step of the way get their breaks re free testing, etc.

adubintipp2

Not sure about other countries, but France defines vaccinated as

VACCINATION
France accepts the vaccines recognized by the European Medicines Agency (EMA): Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.
Proof of vaccination is valid only if it shows that the full course of the vaccine has been administered, i.e.:
2 weeks after the 2nd injection for two-dose vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca);
4 weeks after the injection for single-dose vaccines (Johnson & Johnson) ;
2 weeks after the vaccine for people who have previously had COVID-19 (only 1 injection needed).

https://ie.ambafrance.org/Strategy-for-reopening-of-borders-from-9-June-onwards

josip wrote: »

Have you got a link?
I've googled and all I can find about being "fully vaccinated" is the Citizens Information page
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/vaccinations/vaccines_for_covid19.html

and an Irish Times page from May saying 2 weeks after final.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/what-is-the-eu-digital-covid-certificate-1.4578234

In other news, there are now 16 countries using the EU DCC portal.
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2021/06/16/eu-covid-19-digital-pass-countries-begin-using-new-travel-system

stephenjmcd

ronano wrote: »

When can we expect the government to say the requirements for post 19th july ireland to uk travel for those vaccinated?

All depends if the EU applies an emergency break to UK

josip

josip wrote: »

Have you got a link?
I've googled and all I can find about being "fully vaccinated" is the Citizens Information page
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/vaccinations/vaccines_for_covid19.html

and an Irish Times page from May saying 2 weeks after final.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/what-is-the-eu-digital-covid-certificate-1.4578234

In other news, there are now 16 countries using the EU DCC portal.
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2021/06/16/eu-covid-19-digital-pass-countries-begin-using-new-travel-system

It depends on the country
If a country allows entry on one vaccination without a pcr or antigen,then an Irish dcc that states that will suffice

The dcc you get from being fully vaccinated is a permanent status
You'll get an expiring one generated from a test or from one generated by recovered from covid if you go beyond 9 months since the positive hse pcr

Theres actually a lot of info in the EU explanatory

https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/eu-digital-covid-certificate_en

ronano

ronano wrote: »

When can we expect the government to say the requirements for post 19th july ireland to uk travel for those vaccinated?

UK is not EU so its not connected to the 19th July in itself. It could be way after

josip

josip wrote: »

Have you got a link?
I've googled and all I can find about being "fully vaccinated" is the Citizens Information page
https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/vaccinations/vaccines_for_covid19.html

and an Irish Times page from May saying 2 weeks after final.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/what-is-the-eu-digital-covid-certificate-1.4578234

In other news, there are now 16 countries using the EU DCC portal.
https://www.euronews.com/travel/2021/06/16/eu-covid-19-digital-pass-countries-begin-using-new-travel-system

My apologies, running out the door. Dont mind the current Irish rules, Im surprised they recognise fully vaccinated at all! :P

Look at the EU site about the travel cert, its there somewhere

Klonker

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

UK is not EU so its not connected to the 19th July in itself. It could be way after

It definitely doesn't have to be aligned to the EU Green Cert on 19th July but I don't think we've heard any mumblings that it's likely to be a different date. I'd be surprised if they held the UK restrictions to a later date than this.

Klonker

Klonker wrote: »

It definitely doesn't have to be aligned to the EU Green Cert on 19th July but I don't think we've heard any mumblings that it's likely to be a different date. I'd be surprised if they held the UK restrictions to a later date than this.

In terms of being 'allowed' travel, no I dont think so either but that doesnt mean the CTA will reopen

Klonker

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

In terms of being 'allowed' travel, no I dont think so either but that doesnt mean the CTA will reopen

I'm sure we'll be giving a load of mixed messages from government between now and then to confuse things even further. That's the only thing we can be sure on at this stage

Del Griffith

Two of my mates fly from Dublin today for a holiday over to where I am.

Sum total of interaction with the Garda

Garda: reason for travel?
Passenger: business.
Garda: enjoy the flight.
Passenger: thanks.

As I said in a previous post, the only trouble you'll get in the airport is what you make for yourself really, Tony isn't out there with an RTE crew getting people in headlocks as they try to get to the terminal.

Be grand.

eltonyio

Is it an all or nothing with DCC around the EU does anyone know? I.e. will other EU countries still permit entry prior to 19th without the DCC but with, for example, paper versions of tests or vaccine docs?

I'm off by ferry to France on 5th July and am hoping antigen test docs will be sufficient, that it won't be DCC only accepted at that point.

rajqo

eltonyio wrote: »

Is it an all or nothing with DCC around the EU does anyone know? I.e. will other EU countries still permit entry prior to 19th without the DCC but with, for example, paper versions of tests or vaccine docs?

I'm off by ferry to France on 5th July and am hoping antigen test docs will be sufficient, that it won't be DCC only accepted at that point.

DCC is being launched officially from 1st of july in most EU countries, some of them are using it already today - nothing to do with 19th of july being launched in Ireland.

If you travel outside of Ireland, you just follow entry rules of the country where you fly, I assume France will have DCC fully implemented by 1st of july

eltonyio

rajqo wrote: »

DCC is being launched officially from 1st of july in most EU countries, some of them are using it already today - nothing to do with 19th of july being launched in Ireland.

If you travel outside of Ireland, you just follow entry rules of the country where you fly, I assume France will have DCC fully implemented by 1st of july

Thanks but that's exactly what I mean - as we won't be able to access the DCC in Ireland prior to 19th July, can we still rely on the status quo for entry to other countries, I.e. paper docs from private testing?

rajqo

eltonyio wrote: »

Thanks but that's exactly what I mean - as we won't be able to access the DCC in Ireland prior to 19th July, can we still rely on the status quo for entry to other countries, I.e. paper docs from private testing?

according to this website, you will need to have a proof that you're fully vaccinated and it has passed sufficient time after second dose.. doesn't say anything about DCC

https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/#sommaire_1

eltonyio

eltonyio wrote: »

Is it an all or nothing with DCC around the EU does anyone know? I.e. will other EU countries still permit entry prior to 19th without the DCC but with, for example, paper versions of tests or vaccine docs?

I'm off by ferry to France on 5th July and am hoping antigen test docs will be sufficient, that it won't be DCC only accepted at that point.

Yes.

C'mon mate, read a few pages of the thread.

mike91

I presume july 19th will also be the date they scrap the 2k fine for international travel? Does anyone know anymore about this?

mike91

mike91 wrote: »

I presume july 19th will also be the date they scrap the 2k fine for international travel? Does anyone know anymore about this?

5th July at the moment.

I believe it will be extended to the 19th

Chris_5339762

I would be flabbergasted if they didn't extend it to 1159pm on the 18th July.

Frank Bullitt

Close friend over here booked flights home from Canada in August, got business class for $1600.

The change in his mood is night and day. I need to do the same.

sy_flembeck

RunningFlyer wrote: »

and so the onslaught begins…pressure for 30s and under not to be travelling abroad or socialising for fear of delta variant…!

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/people-in-their-30s-to-wait-up-to-a-monthforvaccine-appointment-after-registration-40553012.html

Notwithstanding the fact that for many, many years Irish people have been heading to Spain and the likes and arriving home with far worse 'Variants of Concern' than Covid!

northcider85

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

5th July at the moment.

I believe it will be extended to the 19th

Where does it say the fine powers end July 5th? The emergency powers act was extended until November

stephenjmcd

northcider85 wrote: »

Where does it say the fine powers end July 5th? The emergency powers act was extended until November

Emergency powers being extended and actually signing in an SI is two different things.

hamburgham

Del Griffith wrote: »

Two of my mates fly from Dublin today for a holiday over to where I am.

Sum total of interaction with the Garda

Garda: reason for travel?
Passenger: business.
Garda: enjoy the flight.
Passenger: thanks.

As I said in a previous post, the only trouble you'll get in the airport is what you make for yourself really, Tony isn't out there with an RTE crew getting people in headlocks as they try to get to the terminal.

Be grand.

And all the while, the ferals run riot in the city centre.

Sobit1964

hamburgham wrote: »

And all the while, the ferals run riot in the city centre.

Thats the old normality. Not the new normality.

I wonder sometimes which I should root for.

Neddyusa

Klonker wrote: »

I'm sure we'll be giving a load of mixed messages from government between now and then to confuse things even further. That's the only thing we can be sure on at this stage

Been the same way since March 2020.
The only thing that didn't change is that the rules keep changing. Maximum confusion guaranteed!