Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

faceman

Newuser2022 wrote: »

Can you fully confirm that Spain will accept a pass result from and Antigen test from Randox. Thanks.

Yes as long as you follow the rules on timing etc

https://www.spth.gob.es/info-pcr

Tazz T

Gael23 wrote: »

For point 1 to happen indoor dining must open as scheduled

I mentioned a while back I thought something would end up being sacrificed in this round of reopening and it's looking like it could be indoor pubs. But having said that, those were most likely the cause of the blip in cases in the UK. Travel will not cause any increases in cases whatsoever.

Case in point: Greece opened for tourism on 14th May when it had 2169 cases and numbers have been in freefall since. Ireland had 437 on the 14th May. Greece had 395 cases yesterday (206 the day before) and is still falling week on week. Ireland is still floating around the 2/300s for the past month.

faceman

faceman wrote: »

Yes as long as you follow the rules on timing etc

https://www.spth.gob.es/info-pcr

Is that just presented at check in or do you have to show the cert elsewhere on arrival in Spain

jimmycrackcorm

faceman wrote: »

I can’t speak on behalf of the airlines but as agreed by all EU nations, DGC is not mandatory so EU citizens can produce the local proof of vaccination as issued by the national health authority. Therefore immigration or whoever does the checks in Ireland will accept either. The difference being anything other than the DGC will be a manual check and take longer. They really want to encourage people to use the DGC from a consistency perspective.

Spain have been accepted the HSE vaccine card even though it doesn’t contain DOB etc.

Is this for definite? I got a reply from the Spanish embassy who just pointed me to their website page on entry requirements. I couldn't get a definitive answer on whether the HSE vaccination card is accepted when you arrive there.

I mean you could arrive over and someone narky at emigration could object as it's not an actual certificate.

TefalBrain

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Is this for definite? I got a reply from the Spanish embassy who just pointed me to their website page on entry requirements. I couldn't get a definitive answer on whether the HSE vaccination card is accepted when you arrive there.

I mean you could arrive over and someone narky at emigration could object as it's not an actual certificate.

Yes. I know 2 people who flew out last weekend with the card excepted at Salou airport. They also printed off their HSE vaccine schedule and attached it but that wasn't needed.

Edit: Just to add to this they had some sort of QR code that they obtained from the Spanish before leaving Ireland.

embraer170

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Is this for definite? I got a reply from the Spanish embassy who just pointed me to their website page on entry requirements. I couldn't get a definitive answer on whether the HSE vaccination card is accepted when you arrive there.

I mean you could arrive over and someone narky at emigration could object as it's not an actual certificate.

There were a number of earlier reports in this thread about travels to Spain with the HSE vaccine card.

Germany also accepts it (but the "official" recommendations is to ask a doctor to transcribe the data in a yellow vaccine book, which I know one Irish doctor refused to do).

I have been following discussions here for a while and I have not heard of a country currently refusing the paper handwritten HSE card.

faceman

Marine Layer wrote: »

Is that just presented at check in or do you have to show the cert elsewhere on arrival in Spain

You need to have it for arriving in Spain but in all likelihood the health checkpoint in the Spanish airport will just check your QR code for the Spanish Health Control Form

faceman

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Is this for definite? I got a reply from the Spanish embassy who just pointed me to their website page on entry requirements. I couldn't get a definitive answer on whether the HSE vaccination card is accepted when you arrive there.

I mean you could arrive over and someone narky at emigration could object as it's not an actual certificate.

Yes. Everyone I know who has arrived in Spain so far has had no issue

munchkin_utd

Merkel is asking all EU countries to impose quarantine on UK visitors like is the case in Germany, i.e. non german residents cannot travel from the UK at all, literally turned round at the airport and sent home, any residents returning must do the full 2 weeks home quarantine (a breach is up to €25,000 fine, so it is followed)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jun/23/coronavirus-live-news-thailand-record-daily-deaths-tokyo-olympics-alcohol?page=with:block-60d333008f085935857e0b92#block-60d333008f085935857e0b92

It'll be interesting to see if any countries take action now, and where would that leave Ireland ?

Chuck Norris 2021

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

How many vouchers? I had actually managed to use them all up and then the new flights got cancelled as well. I have about a dozen of them again now from 9.99 to 100 euro and no way to track them online.

None so far, got one refund already and applied for another.

So we were Cork - Bergamo. Outbound was cancelled so booked and paid for new flights, Cork-Stansted, Stansted - Bergamo. Bergamo flight was cancelled and moved to another flight, so I then had to change the cork one to suit. Then they added restrictions for the UK, so I changed the Bergamo leg ex Dublin instead of Stansted. Then they cancelled Bergamo - Cork today so I changed the spare Cork - Stansted flight to Bergamo - Dublin and took a refund on the Bergamo-Cork.

So if you can figure out what airports I'm travelling through now let me know cause I'm lost :pac:

Tazz T

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Merkel is asking all EU countries to impose quarantine on UK visitors like is the case in Germany, i.e. non german residents cannot travel from the UK at all, literally turned round at the airport and sent home, any residents returning must do the full 2 weeks home quarantine (a breach is up to €25,000 fine, so it is followed)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jun/23/coronavirus-live-news-thailand-record-daily-deaths-tokyo-olympics-alcohol?page=with:block-60d333008f085935857e0b92#block-60d333008f085935857e0b92

It'll be interesting to see if any countries take action now, and where would that leave Ireland ?

This is hardly likely to work in our favour due to the open border with the UK. More likely we will see Germany stopping/quarantining us.

spockety

Tazz T wrote: »

This is hardly likely to work in our favour due to the open border with the UK. More likely we will see Germany stopping/quarantining us.

Political dynamite. Won't happen.

Gael23

Tazz T wrote: »

I mentioned a while back I thought something would end up being sacrificed in this round of reopening and it's looking like it could be indoor pubs. But having said that, those were most likely the cause of the blip in cases in the UK. Travel will not cause any increases in cases whatsoever.

Case in point: Greece opened for tourism on 14th May when it had 2169 cases and numbers have been in freefall since. Ireland had 437 on the 14th May. Greece had 395 cases yesterday (206 the day before) and is still falling week on week. Ireland is still floating around the 2/300s for the past month.

You can’t expect people to holiday in Ireland and have no hospitality open

Tazz T

Gael23 wrote: »

You can’t expect people to holiday in Ireland and have no hospitality open

I can't. But the gov can. They did it last year.

revelman

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Merkel is asking all EU countries to impose quarantine on UK visitors like is the case in Germany, i.e. non german residents cannot travel from the UK at all, literally turned round at the airport and sent home, any residents returning must do the full 2 weeks home quarantine (a breach is up to €25,000 fine, so it is followed)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jun/23/coronavirus-live-news-thailand-record-daily-deaths-tokyo-olympics-alcohol?page=with:block-60d333008f085935857e0b92#block-60d333008f085935857e0b92

It'll be interesting to see if any countries take action now, and where would that leave Ireland ?

All the focus on this board is what our government will do but I have been more worried about what other countries will do to Irish visitors.

Seeing on RTE now that half of all new cases in Northern Ireland are now Delta. This has a depressing pattern to it. Numbers will go up here and other EU states will require us to quarantine (even though Delta will likely be dominant across the EU by the end of the summer).

You might be OK to travel end of August or early September. But I worry about travel in July in particular. My own holiday plans were for July...

TefalBrain

munchkin_utd wrote: »

Merkel is asking all EU countries to impose quarantine on UK visitors like is the case in Germany, i.e. non german residents cannot travel from the UK at all, literally turned round at the airport and sent home, any residents returning must do the full 2 weeks home quarantine (a breach is up to €25,000 fine, so it is followed)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jun/23/coronavirus-live-news-thailand-record-daily-deaths-tokyo-olympics-alcohol?page=with:block-60d333008f085935857e0b92#block-60d333008f085935857e0b92

It'll be interesting to see if any countries take action now, and where would that leave Ireland ?

Really really poor to see Europe play politics with this. They need to get over the fact the UK left.

TefalBrain

revelman wrote: »

All the focus on this board is what our government will do but I have been more worried about what other countries will do to Irish visitors.

Seeing on RTE now that half of all new cases in Northern Ireland are now Delta. This has a depressing pattern to it. Numbers will go up here and other EU states will require us to quarantine (even though Delta will likely be dominant across the EU by the end of the summer).

You might be OK to travel end of August or early September. But I worry about travel in July in particular. My own holiday plans were for July...

I'd say if not fully vaccinated they may demand quarantine which is going to cause a huge divide.

revelman

TefalBrain wrote: »

I'd say if not fully vaccinated they may demand quarantine which is going to cause a huge divide.

Italy, Poland etc are currently requiring all U.K. visitors to quarantine, even if fully vaccinated. This is because of the Delta variant. I don’t see why they wouldn’t do the same for us, at least until the Delta variant becomes dominant in Europe, which is certain surely.

TefalBrain

revelman wrote: »

Italy, Poland etc are currently requiring all U.K. visitors to quarantine, even if fully vaccinated. This is because of the Delta variant. I don’t see why they wouldn’t do the same for us, at least until the Delta variant becomes dominant in Europe, which is certain surely.

Because we are in the EU they won't and probably can't. UK is a completely different kettle of fish and a lot of it is political.

There will be no rollback for fully vaccinated.

in2dark

revelman wrote: »

Italy, Poland etc are currently requiring all U.K. visitors to quarantine, even if fully vaccinated. This is because of the Delta variant. I don’t see why they wouldn’t do the same for us, at least until the Delta variant becomes dominant in Europe, which is certain surely.

Poland now has the rule for all NON Schengen. Ireland included from tomorrow...
There is my money lost :-(

revelman

TefalBrain wrote: »

Because we are in the EU they won't and probably can't. UK is a completely different kettle of fish and a lot of it is political.

There will be no rollback for fully vaccinated.

There is a derogation in the new rules. Any EU state can impose restrictions on any other state if there is a public health emergency.

Tazz T

Eilish O Regan straight on this like a fly in the Indo

'The Delta variant will sweep through Europe this summer causing illness and death...'

That'll keep her ISAG buddies happy.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/delta-variant-to-sweep-through-europe-this-summer-as-watchdog-warns-of-risk-to-vulnerable-who-are-not-fully-vaccinated-40572838.html

Tazz T

Tazz T wrote: »

Eilish O Regan straight on this like a fly in the Indo

'The Delta variant will sweep through Europe this summer causing illness and death...'

That'll keep her ISAG buddies happy.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/delta-variant-to-sweep-through-europe-this-summer-as-watchdog-warns-of-risk-to-vulnerable-who-are-not-fully-vaccinated-40572838.html

Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey,all vulnerable groups, with the exception of irelands group 7's must be fully vaccinated in the EU now and the mrna tech vaccine Delta efficacy according to phe is up near 90% on just 1 shot...

Complete Garbage

ninebeanrows

The delta variant is already widespread in Europe just leas genomic testing

It's nothing to fear

Cases are rising in UK as socialising allowed for months with the under 30s not vaxxed

ninebeanrows

We need to stop fascination with cases and now solely focus on hospitalizations

ninebeanrows

ninebeanrows wrote: »

We need to stop fascination with cases and now solely focus on hospitalizations

Issue fast becoming 'THEY ' need to...as if this quarantine idea gains traction,there soon won't be anywhere in Europe that let's us in and that has nothing to do with our government or Hulahoop
Its out of our control

ZX7R

in2dark wrote: »

Poland now has the rule for all NON Schengen. Ireland included from tomorrow...
There is my money lost :-(

Have you a link to where Ireland is included.
I was under the impression full vaccinated from Ireland were still exempt after tomorrow
Just adding people coming from Ireland fully vaccinated and children under 12 don't have to quarantine.

Solobally8

Newuser2022 wrote: »

Can you fully confirm that Spain will accept a pass result from and Antigen test from Randox. Thanks.

I don’t want to put you on the wrong track Newuser2022 but everything I have read on the Spanish travel health site and the department of travel, lists antigen as being completely acceptable for travel.

We are heading over on the 10th July with our antigen tests booked with Randox 4 hours before we fly. I don’t see us having any issues but you might feel better sticking with the PCR.

supersaiyan

Forgive me for a silly question, but I have to ask.
I'm planning on doing a day trip to the UK for some planespotting (Stansted airport in mind) at the end of July once that promised date comes around. I presume I'll have to get a PCR test a day or so before my flight. My question is would it be valid for the return flight that evening?
I'd take a morning flight, spend the day in the UK and hope to catch the evening flight back to Dublin.
As an unvaccinated person it's seeming highly unlikely that I'll get to do any of that but would I have to take a second PCR in the UK meaning I'd have to stay a night or two for the result? It's all very confusing but sure I guess what I'm asking for is too.
Cheers everyone

General Toilet

It will be valid.