Fly me to the Moon - your 3rd travel Megathread - read OP

Van.Bosch

Solobally8 wrote: »

If you are getting a test in the foreign country before returning home, surely that’s all you would need? Not the DCC? Wouldn’t the PCR test be enough to enter Ireland?

So what’s the point of the DCC then - I thought it was to store all the data for the 3 options to fast track checking at borders etc as well as allow travel

funnydoggy

funnydoggy wrote: »

The fully vaxxed family member I spoke about here arrived from the UK this morning. Will be great to see him

any snags? did they need a PCR or was their NHS vax card taken as proof?

funnydoggy

happywednesday wrote: »

any snags? did they need a PCR or was their NHS vax card taken as proof?

He took a PCR test in the UK yesterday, came back negative but I'm not sure about his experience yet. I think it was plain sailing. Won't meet him until later in the afternoon, but I'll be sure to ask.

Tazz T

Zebra3 wrote: »

An attempt to keep people from spending their hard earned money abroad. That’s all it is.

Probably more about keeping Nyphet happy, who, incidentally are still recommending that only the vaccinated should travel after 19th. So the gov will have to either have to reject that recommendation or reject the DCC in their meeting next Tuesday. It's not until then when we'll finally see the real detail of what will happen on the 19th.

dalyboy

Tazz T wrote: »

Probably more about keeping Nyphet happy, who, incidentally are still recommending that only the vaccinated should travel after 19th. So the gov will have to either have to reject that recommendation or reject the DCC in their meeting next Tuesday. It's not until then when we'll finally see the real detail of what will happen on the 19th.

That really does not bode well for DCC in Ireland as we all know which side the government will fall on recommendations.

faceman

Marine Layer wrote: »

What specifically is he incorrect about?

The headline is incorrect. There are no “rumbles from EU that tighter travel curbs may follow”. “Early signals from Europe” do not suggest a rollback. The U.K. is not part of the EU and there is pushback on entry from there. But that’s about it.

Merkel’s desire was that the bloc adapts a consistent approach to all non EU countries, specially referring to the U.K. most countries have tighten restrictions on U.K. travellers

The German restriction on travel to Portugal is a completely political move. This has been widely discussed in European news sources.

The article author is inaccurate, misleading and fudging facts to suit his narrative

SusanC10

Can someone explain to what degree can Ireland actually deviate from the EU DCC having signed up to implement it ? And also having committed to having it ready to go from July 19th ?

faceman

SusanC10 wrote: »

Can someone explain to what degree can Ireland actually deviate from the EU DCC having signed up to implement it ? And also having committed to having it ready to go from July 19th ?

Ireland has to implement it by august 12th latest

faceman

A potential silver lining on US/EU travel. The EU is currently in the discussions for the US to recognise the DCC

Marine Layer

Marine Layer wrote: »

Regarding geo blocking..
If and it's a big if, the DCC goes live on the 19th and it's through some new hse App, will you be able to download that app while abroad?

You might need a VPN set to Ireland

Plain aul Hola is enough

SusanC10

SusanC10 wrote: »

Can someone explain to what degree can Ireland actually deviate from the EU DCC having signed up to implement it ? And also having committed to having it ready to go from July 19th ?

IF they decide to deviate from it by still requiring quarantine for example, they must advise all other member states and explain why. I lack faith that this really means anything more than finger wagging.

As it is, EU just opened more but here we are, blindly looking for the light switch

funnydoggy

funnydoggy wrote: »

He took a PCR test in the UK yesterday, came back negative but I'm not sure about his experience yet. I think it was plain sailing. Won't meet him until later in the afternoon, but I'll be sure to ask.

brilliant, can you ask whether it was a NHS or private test also?

Will be in a similar boat in a few weeks

faceman

faceman wrote: »

This guy from the Indo on the government payroll? He does nothing to justify his scaremongering headline in relation to travel. He’s also wildly incorrect

https://www.independent.ie/opinion/comment/rumbles-from-eu-suggest-tighter-covid-travel-curbs-may-follow-40600511.html

The Indo isnt on any payroll. Its just a rag. Plain and simple. It hasnt been a newspaper of any worth in over a decade at least but for some strange reason, people still think its a reliable source

happywednesday

happywednesday wrote: »

brilliant, can you ask whether it was a NHS or private test also?

Will be in a similar boat in a few weeks

It must be a private travel test. Actually very pricey in the UK. Highest I have encountered so far.

faceman

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

The Indo isnt on any payroll. Its just a rag. Plain and simple. It hasnt been a newspaper of any worth in over a decade at least but for some strange reason, people still think its a reliable source

The biggest advertiser on news media over the past 15+ months has been the government. During an era of falling advertising revenues and dwindling media sales, it’s difficult not to see what influence the government has with the press. Particular when we see how certain columnists have been gagged in the past months.

TefalBrain

Zebra3 wrote: »

An attempt to keep people from spending their hard earned money abroad. That’s all it is.

Which has completely failed. Numerous stories of people cancelling their staycations here to head abroad because of the failure to open up restaurants and bars indoors here. That said im hearing and reading a lot of stories about folk just sick to death of all the covid talk here, yellow distancing signs, constant in your face all the time and they just want away from it.

SusanC10

faceman wrote: »

Ireland has to implement it by august 12th latest

That is my understanding too.
If that is the case then Ireland can't insist on fully vaccinated only being allowed to travel, can they ?

bladespin

TefalBrain wrote: »

Which has completely failed. Numerous stories of people cancelling their staycations here to head abroad because of the failure to open up restaurants and bars indoors here. That said im hearing and reading a lot of stories about folk just sick to death of all the covid talk here, yellow distancing signs, constant in your face all the time and they just want away from it.

Same, see lots of SM posts on it in the last day or so, also know 2 real-life families who've cancelled here to head to Spain instead, fair play in my view, they're giving us no encouragement at all now, just more BS.

TefalBrain

What an embarrassment today is for the whole nation. The rest of the EU up and running and here we are paddy last the only country without the cert up and running. Pathetic.

spockety

Surprised nobody here has copped that the DCC just got a rocket up it's ar5e here.. they are obviously going to try to leverage the same cert, or at least the same underlying technology/data, in order to provide a domestic cert for indoor dining etc. The DCC just jumped up the priority list of things to get done.

Tazz T

dalyboy wrote: »

That really does not bode well for DCC in Ireland as we all know which side the government will fall on recommendations.

Yeah, but Ireland has signed up for it. They must let in European citizens under the terms. While allowing that, they may be able to argue that only allowing vaccinated Irish out is within the remit of the DCC. They can also use the emergency break (although that is supposed to be for countries outside the EU) due to a rise in cases from delta.

We won't know until next week.

bladespin

SusanC10 wrote: »

That is my understanding too.
If that is the case then Ireland can't insist on fully vaccinated only being allowed to travel, can they ?

Really unsure how they ever could tbh, I'd be hoping for a test case to be taken, discrimination based on medical history would be something of a concern, what's next???

VG31

Tazz T wrote: »

Yeah, but Ireland has signed up for it. They must let in European citizens under the terms. While allowing that, they may be able to argue that only allowing vaccinated Irish out is within the remit of the DCC. They can also use the emergency break (although that is supposed to be for countries outside the EU) due to a rise in cases from delta.

We won't know until next week.

Is the emergency brake not agreed at an EU level?

SusanC10

spockety wrote: »

Surprised nobody here has copped that the DCC just got a rocket up it's ar5e here.. they are obviously going to try to leverage the same cert, or at least the same underlying technology/data, in order to provide a domestic cert for indoor dining etc. The DCC just jumped up the priority list of things to get done.

My concern is that they (Govt/NPHET) want to restrict indoor dining and travel to vaccinated people only and who knows what else.
But the DCC allows for unvaccinated people with negative test results.

SusanC10

Tazz T wrote: »

Yeah, but Ireland has signed up for it. They must let in European citizens under the terms. While allowing that, they may be able to argue that only allowing vaccinated Irish out is within the remit of the DCC.

I would really like to know the answer to that

TefalBrain

SusanC10 wrote: »

My concern is that they (Govt/NPHET) want to restrict indoor dining and travel to vaccinated people only and who knows what else.
But the DCC allows for unvaccinated people with negative test results.

Watch this space. Between now and i'd say around the 15th of July you will be getting a message from our NPHET overlords that only fully vaccinated will be allowed access to the cert on the 19th.

spockety

Politically, discrimination between vaccinated and unvaccinated is just too hot a potato. I think what you'll see is even more of a push to incorporate Antigen testing scenarios, and definitely validity around use of PCR for access to travel and indoor dining etc.

SusanC10

TefalBrain wrote: »

Watch this space. Between now and i'd say around the 15th of July you will be getting a message from our NPHET overlords that only fully vaccinated will be allowed access to the cert on the 19th.

I am afraid that you may be right. I really hope that you are wrong. Which is why I want to find out if having signed up to the DCC, can Ireland do that ?

SusanC10

spockety wrote: »

Politically, discrimination between vaccinated and unvaccinated is just too hot a potato. I think what you'll see is even more of a push to incorporate Antigen testing scenarios, and definitely validity around use of PCR for access to travel and indoor dining etc.

I hope so.

funnydoggy

happywednesday wrote: »

brilliant, can you ask whether it was a NHS or private test also?

Will be in a similar boat in a few weeks

Private