F1 2021 Round 6: Azerbaijan GP

Gaoth Laidir

Could Max still win this if they don't restart? Sky are saying yes.

McFly85

Faugheen wrote: »

I don’t understand why Pirelli have questions to answer?

Why can’t teams monitor for themselves and see that a 2-stop might be necessary?

This idea that every race has to be a one-stop needs to be done away with.

Tyre failure is completely different to tyre wear. Pirelli’s own statement said these tyres are capable of 40 laps.

Larbre34

No sense restarting this. Not with the question mark over every rear tyre. Flag it.

Faugheen

Larbre34 wrote: »

No sense restarting this. Not with the question mark over every rear tyre. Flag it.

They’ll all be allowed to change tyres

Burkie1203

Faugheen wrote: »

I don’t understand why Pirelli have questions to answer?

Why can’t teams monitor for themselves and see that a 2-stop might be necessary?

This idea that every race has to be a one-stop needs to be done away with.

Pirelli say they are good for 40 laps.

skipper_G

I don't fancy searching through the rule book, what happens now? Will they restart the race, if yes is a standing start?

LMHC

namloc1980 wrote: »

What?? His tyre failed ffs

Yes I know his left rear to be precise. I don't mean he ****ed up I mean his race ****ed up. Also it is about management Lewis said to control at 46 I can't push anymore I won't get closer. Maybe Max wasn't as cautious

Rossi IRL

Looking like a one lap shoot out after they all put on softs during the red flag.

namloc1980

Disaster for the championship.

Gaoth Laidir

If they end the race now Max will win as he was leading the race at the end of the lap previous to the accident lap.

Faugheen

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Pirelli say they are good for 40 laps.

That’s actually fair enough.

Still. I hate that every race is aimed to have a one-stop.

Three categories of tyres for everyone. Some races will be 1-stop, others will be 2-3.

Larbre34

Faugheen wrote: »

They’ll all be allowed to change tyres

Not sure thats sufficient in the circumstances. Light fuel, high speed, high downforce, too risky in my view.

Irishjg

One stop races should be banned. For many reasons.

ctrl-alt-delete

Looking at it again, very lucky Max went right and not left as he may have hit a solid wall.

Serious questions of Pirelli now.

They will only restart it because they can all change theirs while they wait.

Faugheen

Larbre34 wrote: »

Not sure thats sufficient in the circumstances. Light fuel, high speed, high downforce, too risky in my view.

But they can put on fresh tyres and get those ones that are at the end of their lives off.

Lawlesz

Any chance of it being abandoned and count back for Max to win! Isn't that how Fisi got the final Jordan win

PopePalpatine

It's an absolute joke that Masi's considering a restart. Hamilton gets f*cking #BLESSED with another win and Sky cream themselves.

Lawlesz

skipper_G wrote: »

I mean I feel bad for Verstappen, but I'm a massive Perez fan and he's leading the race now. Also Vettel P3 for Aston so great day for me

Yeah I'm torn, delighted for Checo and Seb, but heart broken for Max

recyclebin

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

If they end the race now Max will win as he was leading the race at the end of the lap previous to the accident lap.

You cant win a race if you are directly involved in causing the red flag. You'd think commentator would know that.

MadYaker

The way the car starts to snake when the tire goes, the driver is basically a passenger

ctrl-alt-delete

Faugheen wrote: »

But they can put on fresh tyres and get those ones that are at the end of their lives off.

Just thinking of that they won't have time to get them to race temp? We've seen many today struggle with that.

Won't be any point restarting it as a race for me.

Vicxas

Pirelli in serious trouble

LMHC

Faugheen wrote: »

That’s actually fair enough.

Still. I hate that every race is aimed to have a one-stop.

Three categories of tyres for everyone. Some races will be 1-stop, others will be 2-3.

But you cannot stop a team having a strategy. If a strategy is 1 stop for Max and 2 for Perez that is their prerogative. It is entirely up to a team who does what and how.

devnull

Very sporting from Red Bull to call for the red flag and put safety above their own ambitions.

Makes you wonder if certain other people would do and agree with the same thing, if they were leading.

Itssoeasy

So red bull are saying they got zero indication that the tyre was going to fail.

Tyre failure is different to tyre wear.

Faugheen

PopePalpatine wrote: »

It's an absolute joke that Masi's considering a restart. Hamilton gets f*cking #BLESSED with another win and Sky cream themselves.

Well Red Bull disagree with you.

Always the FIA wanting to give Hamilton a win though. Keep up the fantastic bullsh*t there pal.

namloc1980

Catastrophic tyre failure at 300kmh is unacceptable. Pirelli need to sort out their shiit.

Larbre34

Faugheen wrote: »

But they can put on fresh tyres and get those ones that are at the end of their lives off.

Red Bull seem to agree with me (or I with them rather)

Now I know Red Bull would say that wouldn't they, but fresh or worn out are not necessarily the variable here.

iffandonlyif

devnull wrote: »

Very sporting from Red Bull to call for the red flag and put safety above their own ambitions.

Makes you wonder if certain other people would do and agree with the same thing, if they were leading.

There would be no risk of Tyree failure under safety car.

TheDoctor

Need to send the hardest tyres to Silverstone this year

Faugheen

LMHC wrote: »

But you cannot stop a team having a strategy. If a strategy is 1 stop for Max and 2 for Perez that is their prerogative. It is entirely up to a team who does what and how.

But they decide their strategy based on what Pirelli tells them and nearly every race the 3 out of 5 tyre compounds are decided based on a one-stop strategy.

ctrl-alt-delete

Itssoeasy wrote: »

So red bull are saying they got zero indication that the tyre was going to fail.

Tyre failure is different to tyre wear.

Do they mean in terms of they'd have known if it was debris?

Same tyre and same part of the track, it all points to failure you would think.

Cool_CM

Aw man, poor Latifi

Faugheen

That’s rotten for Latifi. What was his race engineer thinking?

LMHC

Faugheen wrote: »

But they decide their strategy based on what Pirelli tells them and nearly every race the 3 out of 5 tyre compounds are decided based on a one-stop strategy.

Pirelli give advice on the tire used pre race. Take into consideration track temp, rain fall, breaking (mid race)power exerted from the car (mid race) too many variables just be cut and drawn

Busi_Girl08

Ah for feck sake. What a joke for Latifi.

LMHC

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

Do they mean in terms of they'd have known if it was debris?

Same tyre and same part of the track, it all points to failure you would think.

No specifically, it could be repeated on same part of track if same lines were taken. An issue with the track.

JeffKenna

HAM will win this, so undeserved.

antodeco

Restart and Perez to take Hamilton out so Max stays leading. Everyone wins!

Rossi IRL

Like this FIA team radio

Larbre34

Masi is great. He can say shut up and p1ss off in any language!

MadYaker

Hahahaha Mclaren grassing

Cool_CM

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Like this FIA team radio

Masi taking no sh1t there 😂

Faugheen

Hahaha that Michael Masi radio was great.

R00ster

Will they allow Mazepin to unlap himself first?

flazio

I imagine if they weren't restarting the race we'd know by now wouldn't we?

ctrl-alt-delete

Faugheen wrote: »

That’s rotten for Latifi. What was his race engineer thinking?

flazio

R00ster wrote: »

Will they allow Mazepin to unlap himself first?

He wasn't recaught after the safety car

MadYaker

Merc just preparing the spaceship for takeoff

Itssoeasy

Faugheen wrote: »

Hahaha that Michael Masi radio was great.

It was. Saw right through what they were up to. The saying there’s a pair of ye in it lads.