Budget/Budget+ pc for total war: warhammer advice

Deadlobster

Hey, my brother was asking me to source a budget to middling gaming pc. Something that would play Total War Rome/Warhammer on his 4tv. I haven't had any pc building experience for the past 3 years and was wondering if anyone good recommend a half decent prebuild or components that can be purchased in Ireland to avoid import.
600-850
I'm supplying keyboard etc.
I can build if necessary and can supply windows.
I've amazon prime so I've free delivery from there on prebuilds.
It's a standard 60hz TV, no need to worry about 120 FPS GPU/CPU

Any help would be appreciated.
Thanking you.

ancapailldorcha

It's a phenomal game.

Not sure if you're aware but the price of graphics cards is ludicrous right now and that's if you can find them. It might be worth waiting a while to see if things improve.

Deadlobster

I've been seeing a bit. My own pc is ok and I have a series x so I wouldn't buy until I could get one of the new cards. The starter or middle range, never the super expensive. He's a casual gamer, like really casual. But he likes the total war rome series and sunk a lot of hours into the original. Not the kind of person that would be out buying the latest releases.

I'm currently setting up an old pc of mine with launhbox/retroarch and I'm going to see what it can run from an rts side. I knew things for bad but looking about yesterday it seems, quite bad. Is it all shortages and then scalpers? Listened to some youtubers slated nVidia for releasing the TI card when the other are sold out everywhere.

Simi

All components other than graphics cards are readily available. You can still get cards like the RX 570 4gb for sub €300 second hand. Ludicrous pricing I know, but should fit into your budget.

Anything with more than 4gb of ram is being snapped up by miners. There should still be a glut of RX 470/480/570/580 4gb cards floating about from the last mining boom and subsequent bust.

Deadlobster

I bought the rx560 about 3 years ago when I built my current pc. Basic enough, but it runs things fine at 1440p. I hadn't really considered the miners thing. To be honest, I don't really know that much about it. Maybe something along those lines. I've seen GTX1660 super nvidia at a reasonable price. Won't be anything special but may suit his needs perfectly.

Homelander

The RX560 is extremely low-end. Even something like an RX580 4GB would be more than twice as fast.

Pricing is crazy right now due to the shortages. An RX570 4GB would've been €140 brand new a few years ago and now sells for way more than that second hand.

When you say you have seen a GTX1660 Super at reasonable price, what do you mean? They can be pretty OK value in pre-builds. But buying new, forget it. For reference they should be starting about €230, that's what they were pre shortage.

Curry's have some OK pre-builds. Advantage over say, Dell or Lenovo is that some of them (like this one) use off-the-shelf parts so very easy to upgrade.

This is €1079 and has Ryzen 3600, SSD/HDD, GTX1660, half decent case/PSU. Could do with a bump up to 16GB RAM down the line but not crucial immediately.

It's not excellent value but in the current market it's not awful at all.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-pcs/pcspecialist-tornado-r5-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-5-gtx-1660-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-10205579-pdt.html

Homelander

Another option here, similar but has a fast 1TB NVME SSD and 16GB Ram for not much more, as well as a slightly faster graphics card - GTX1660 Super v standard GTX1660.

https://www.pcspecialist.ie/computers-for-next-day-delivery/1233/

Homelander

Sorry, just saw your budget is 650-850. That's trickier as given the current GPU shortages, usually builds costing that much have corners cut somewhere, EG a great graphics card but weak processor, no SSD which makes the PC very slow, or a crappy non-standard case/power supply which makes upgrading difficult, etc.

I would check out Lenovo. Right now for €827 you can get a Lenovo 5i with i5-10400, 16GB Ram, SSD + HDD, GTX1650 Super. That's pretty well balanced and about as good as you will get for that money.

https://www.lenovo.com/ie/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/ideacentre/500-series/IdeaCentre-Gaming-5i/p/99IC9G50341

BloodBath

GTX 970's can still be got cheap if you are quick. I've seen some pop up on adverts still for around €100-120.

For 1080p/60hz gaming it's still a perfectly decent card that outperforms the 1650.

You could build on budget if you got 1 for around that price. Paired with something like a ryzen 3600 would be perfect.

Deadlobster

I was chatting with the brother a short time ago and he was budgeting for about 900-1200 so I'll definitely have a look at those. All this talk of pc's and cards is giving me notions. The missus would obliterate me though. Saving for a deposit on a house

Deadlobster

He knew a little more about mining than me. A fella he works with his mining (what I don't know), I don't think he's working with either snow white or the Dwarves. I've had 2 kids since January 2019 so my world has really, really, narrowed

Deadlobster

Homelander wrote: »

The RX560 is extremely low-end. Even something like an RX580 4GB would be more than twice as fast.

Pricing is crazy right now due to the shortages. An RX570 4GB would've been €140 brand new a few years ago and now sells for way more than that second hand.

When you say you have seen a GTX1660 Super at reasonable price, what do you mean? They can be pretty OK value in pre-builds. But buying new, forget it. For reference they should be starting about €230, that's what they were pre shortage.

Curry's have some OK pre-builds. Advantage over say, Dell or Lenovo is that some of them (like this one) use off-the-shelf parts so very easy to upgrade.

This is €1079 and has Ryzen 3600, SSD/HDD, GTX1660, half decent case/PSU. Could do with a bump up to 16GB RAM down the line but not crucial immediately.

It's not excellent value but in the current market it's not awful at all.

https://www.currys.ie/ieen/gaming/pc-gaming/gaming-pcs/pcspecialist-tornado-r5-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-5-gtx-1660-1-tb-hdd-256-gb-ssd-10205579-pdt.html

Had a look at both the pcspecialist and the curry's. They look like they could be rightr up his alley. You and the other posters have been of great help. Only, now I'm getting the upgrade itch