What car do you hate that everyone else loves?

Pat_bottom

For Forks Sake wrote: »

The C pillar on that yoke was so wide it made it look like a van.
Always thought the GT was a far nicer design

What a sexy van it would be

Pat_bottom

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

Anything with a VW badge, especially Passats, Bora's and Jettas. Also most BMW's (5 and 3 series) and most Audi's too. Basically all the cars that boyracers and scumbags buy these days.

Bloody hell that's some amount of generalisation or whatever you wanna call it.

I'm a proud 5 series driver and I can honestly say I've encountered more knobs in the past 3 years talking sh1t about bmw drivers than I have actual bmw drivers been knobs or scumbags or anything else.

Banana Republic 1

For Forks Sake wrote: »

The C pillar on that yoke was so wide it made it look like a van.
Always thought the GT was a far nicer design

Vans start when you turn the key.

Rrrrrr2

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

Mitsubishi Lancer (all generations) - they seem to have a dedicated following but every time I see one, I wonder why.

Reliable, cheap no frills motoring. I don’t mind them, they’re not ugly in my eyes.

Rrrrrr2

Pat_bottom wrote: »

Bloody hell that's some amount of generalisation or whatever you wanna call it.

I'm a proud 5 series driver and I can honestly say I've encountered more knobs in the past 3 years talking sh1t about bmw drivers than I have actual bmw drivers been knobs or scumbags or anything else.

I never had a BMW before- I honestly find I get treated a lot worse now- I’m forever being tailgated no matter what speed I’m doing- generally sticking to the speed limit I find invariably someone will appear out of nowhere catch up on me and sit on my arse for no reason. As for being let out at junctions? I’m shocked if some polite person lets me out these days. I truly believe we are a hated species. Had a Mazda 6 before and it was far more anonymous

Mickiemcfist

James Bond Junior wrote: »

An obligatory yokel in the passenger seat with a benson hanging from his underbite showing a upheld hand in true laaaaadd style.

Nearly pi55ed myself laughing there, a perfect description

Royale with Cheese

I'm fed up of people telling me the original mini is cool, it's really not. The new one is very obviously shíte too but they don't have the same "cool" reputation.

AMKC

micah537 wrote: »

Pretty much all VW. I did like the Scirocco though, not enough to buy one but they were OK.

Not a huge fan of Skoda Superb or Skoda in general.

Small kia and Hyundai SUVs and the Hyundai estate.

Everything with a Dacia badge

And you started of so well.

However I disagree with you on Dacia, Kia and Hyundai. They are all good cars. Yes most of them are made to a price but they are reliable and well made unlike a lot of the modern German stuff.

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Golf. Just dont get the love!

Me either. One of the most overrated cars on the roads. The smart people buy a Skoda Octavia great cars.

For me it is was the 3rd generation Ford Mondeo. A truly horrible car. I just remember it the same way the OP remembers the Carina E as a farmers car and it was a farmers car. Still have not forgiven the Da for going and buying that without asking me what I think first lol.
Also the Nissan Micra not the current generation but the one before it a truly terrible car. I do not even look at the now.

CoBo55

AMKC wrote: »

And you started of so well.

However I disagree with you on Dacia, Kia and Hyundai. They are all good cars. Yes most of them are made to a price but they are reliable and well made unlike a lot of the modern German stuff.



Me either. One of the most overrated cars on the roads. The smart people buy a Skoda Octavia great cars.

For me it is was the 3rd generation Ford Mondeo. A truly horrible car. I just remember it the same way the OP remembers the Carina E as a farmers car and it was a farmers car. Still have not forgiven the Da for going and buying that without asking me what I think first lol.
Also the Nissan Micra not the current generation but the one before it a truly terrible car. I do not even look at the now.

I was hoping you wouldn't see ruin this thread, another one to unfollow.

AMKC

FrankC21 wrote: »

Toyota CHR on the outside good looking car but rear passenger seat is a shoe box with a hole in it.

Nissan Juke same as CHR with shoe box rear passenger seats. But the older version reminds me of a pecking frog.

Kia sportage, front grille looks hideous. Another frog looking car.

New Gen Ford cars. Bloody awful looking grills insect looking creature's.

I disagree. Sure all them cars bar the Sportage might not be great looking but they are different and stand out instead of being another boring VW or Audi or BMW.

FrankC21 wrote: »

Renault fluence awful looking car.

I disagree. I think it is on inoffensive car.

Autosport wrote: »

Nissan Juke, the new Ford design, pure ugly and the Toyota chr

Again I disagree on the Ford design. It might be a bit dull but its certainly not ugly. The new Puma outside us quiet nice actually but I agree with the new Ford dashs. They are very boring.

CoBo55 wrote: »

But nobody loves them they just drive them from A to B with the bare minimum of servicing.

Actually you are wrong. I have a friend who before his Fluence had a MK2 Megane and he loves them both. They do what he wants and he got them fairly cheap. He is plannin6 on getting one of the new Megane Grand Coupes when they are at a cheap enough price for him.

Pat_bottom

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

I never had a BMW before- I honestly find I get treated a lot worse now- I’m forever being tailgated no matter what speed I’m doing- generally sticking to the speed limit I find invariably someone will appear out of nowhere catch up on me and sit on my arse for no reason. As for being let out at junctions? I’m shocked if some polite person lets me out these days. I truly believe we are a hated species. Had a Mazda 6 before and it was far more anonymous

Haha its crazy I honestly don't think any other car has the same stigma maybe I'm wrong. I've driven alot of cars over the last 20 years I've had a few bmw but with the 5 series it's on another level.

The J Stands for Jay

Royale with Cheese wrote: »

I'm fed up of people telling me the original mini is cool, it's really not. The new one is very obviously shíte too but they don't have the same "cool" reputation.

I wouldn't feel comfortable driving a car with union jack tail lights.

Stihl waters

Anything vw or BMW, cant stand either brands for some reason, also the god awful thing that is the American wannabe Ford ranger, a status vehicle like the q7 back in the day, only used by lads pulling less than 2 ton and farmers using them for going to the co-op for 6 bags of meal, I can't see rangers still being around in 20 years pulling a 3 ton mini digger or hauling cattle from the mart

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

The Citroen Xsara Picasso. Ok, I wouldn't say they were madly popular in Ireland, but there were plenty around. They were named the most popular MPV in the UK in the mid noughties.



Shtate of it.

Wibbs

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

I never had a BMW before- I honestly find I get treated a lot worse now- I’m forever being tailgated no matter what speed I’m doing- generally sticking to the speed limit I find invariably someone will appear out of nowhere catch up on me and sit on my arse for no reason. As for being let out at junctions? I’m shocked if some polite person lets me out these days. I truly believe we are a hated species. Had a Mazda 6 before and it was far more anonymous

Friends who drive Beemers have told me similar and I've seen examples of it myself when they've given me lifts. Mad. I'm deliberately nice to Beemer drivers, just to see the look of mild shock in their eyes.

freshpopcorn

I used love the Mark 1 Focus but the latest ones do nothing for me. They just look like bloated Fiesta’s.

Hurrache

I was alongside a gorgeous new ST Line Focus estate over the weekend, they're gorgeous in that colour and trim.

padraig737

I would probably only hate Dacia. I wouldn't be a massive fan of the A1, A3, A and B class or 1 series, the more powerful versions are fine but buying the smallest engine just to say you drive a certain brand is a bit pitiful imo.



I don't think it's possible to have a car or anything really that everyone would love.
The performance of a Ferrari, interior of a Rolls Royce, the mpg of a small diesel etc., for 40k and someone would still find something to hate about it.




It's interesting what you are saying about attitudes towards BMW. It was in the 90's I last had one and didn't have any hassle. Have owned a few E-class, a S-Class, a Lexus and a Jag since, never had issues with other drivers. I was actually given extra room in the Jag for some reason. With their British heritage I thought they would get the hate that BMW get.



I bought both my sons cars as I'm sure they will want them back in the future and I drive them the odd time. The S14 Silvia is always hassle to drive, the Evo is the complete opposite, always let out by one of the first three cars.

freshpopcorn

Personally I don’t what to make of Dacia’s.
I remember people raving about them and I was a disappointed.
They sort of reminded of something you’d get in the middle isle in Lidl.

micah537

AMKC wrote: »

And you started of so well.

However I disagree with you on Dacia, Kia and Hyundai. They are all good cars. Yes most of them are made to a price but they are reliable and well made unlike a lot of the modern German stuff.

I think your more passionate about them cars than their CEO's. You'd make a great salesperson for them :-)

freshpopcorn wrote: »

They sort of reminded of something you’d get in the middle isle in Lidl.

That's brilliant

Water2626262

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

I never had a BMW before- I honestly find I get treated a lot worse now- I’m forever being tailgated no matter what speed I’m doing- generally sticking to the speed limit I find invariably someone will appear out of nowhere catch up on me and sit on my arse for no reason. As for being let out at junctions? I’m shocked if some polite person lets me out these days. I truly believe we are a hated species. Had a Mazda 6 before and it was far more anonymous

I’m relatively new to bmw and haven’t noticed that. There is an embarrassing over representation of BMW’s getting caught speeding on the gardai twitter account though.

The only vehicle I drove where I was shocked at the courtesy and road reaction was a van. Seems to be a fellow van drivers code where they all let each out at junctions etc

Irishcrx

I think there’s just a lot of BMW on the road , but to be fair whenever I see a car up my arse 90% of the time it’s a BMW or an Audi A4 TDI crap box...I also notice different behavior in other drivers depending on the car I’m driving in the Cupra it’s not so bad in the Boxster always people driving right up me or trying to overtake me ...

Poulgorm

Generally, I don't like the shape of the Lexus cars.

But I saw a Lexus ES in the flesh last week and good Heavens, it is a stunningly beautiful car.

whisky_galore

Water2626262 wrote: »

I’m relatively new to bmw and haven’t noticed that. There is an embarrassing over representation of BMW’s getting caught speeding on the gardai twitter account though.

The only vehicle I drove where I was shocked at the courtesy and road reaction was a van. Seems to be a fellow van drivers code where they all let each out at junctions etc

The brotherhood of the van is a thing.

tenreds

Range Rover, everybody I know that drives one is a dickhead

FrankC21

TrailerBob wrote: »

As for cars I hate that everyone likes... A class Merc... its such a pointless car for me...in fact it seems all about badge in reality

Completely agree A Class useless crap, going through carsireland.ie same price range and same engine. 1.5 DCI

A Class
https://www.carsireland.ie/2835377

Renault Megane
https://www.carsireland.ie/2822667

Pat_bottom

FrankC21 wrote: »

Completely agree A Class useless crap, going through carsireland.ie same price range and same engine. 1.5 DCI

A Class
https://www.carsireland.ie/2835377

Renault Megane
https://www.carsireland.ie/2822667

I'm not a merc fan far from it but erm I think I could of done better then an ugly looking Renault with plastic interior to compare it too.

the purple tin

Audi saloons. 9 times out of 10 they are driven by a lead-footed bully who thinks they own the road.
Also any of the modern VW Beetles: they look hideous compared to the original.

All those old 'sporty' Toyotas like the twin cams and all. Horrid looking things.

golondrinas

My daughter drives a BMW x5 E46 M sports pack (hybrid). Standard x5 drivers give her dirty looks. there is begrudgery even within brands ffs.

Wildly Boaring

Water2626262 wrote: »

The only vehicle I drove where I was shocked at the courtesy and road reaction was a van. Seems to be a fellow van drivers code where they all let each out at junctions etc

****ing right.
It's very obvious in a bit of Dublin traffic

Wildly Boaring

All skodas (except maybe a well specced superb estate)
Crossovers by Hyuandi, Kia and Nissan
The last 1 series. Some versions of the new one look ok?
The first A class

Had a Nissan terrano for work once, hateful
Ditto old jeep Cherokee
May I add the susuki Vitara.
I'd point out that it's highly likely nobody liked any of these.

I also dislike range rovers so they're probably not in this thread either

Don't get the dacia or fluence hate. I'd not buy one but have no issue.
Don't get the juke or chr hate. Least they're a bit different.

Nice cars were much nicer when they were rarer. Since about 2015 it became easier for people to afford to buy them so they are less impressive, to me at least. Their performance is surely greater than it was 10 or 20 years ago but they just don't evoke the same sense of awe in me that they once did when two out of three cars on the road seem to be 'luxury' cars, huge SUVs, very new Golfs etc. Even at the height of the Celtic Tiger, a 3 series Beemer seemed quite impressive to look at. For me, the 1980s BMW E30 and E28 are gorgeous cars to look at by comparison to the modern ones.

murphyebass

As a general remark I think too many cars manufacturers are basically making the same car for a range and just making it bigger/smaller.

Eg BMW’s and Audi all look the same to me, just size changes.

So I don’t hate a particular car, more the premise of all cars being pretty much identical in a line.

I also don’t get the love for SUV’s in general. Basically fake 2 wheel drive jeeps and cost a fortune for what ? A bit height? Mental imo.

the purple tin

All people carriers, practical maybe but such an ugly design. Especially the Ford one with the sort of pointed bonnet.
They are being phased out for the 4wd thank God.

AMKC

the purple tin wrote: »

All people carriers, practical maybe but such an ugly design. Especially the Ford one with the sort of pointed bonnet.
They are being phased out for the 4wd thank God.

Lol because the SUV is so much more practical not.

I take you have never been in an SUV. I have and everyone of then were better designed and drove better than all these SUVs on the roads. The Ford C-Max was the best do.

the purple tin

AMKC wrote: »

Lol because the SUV is so much more practical not.

I take you have never been in an SUV. I have and everyone of then were better designed and drove better than all these SUVs on the roads. The Ford C-Max was the best do.

The C-Max! yes that's the one. Ugly as sin.

AMKC

FrankC21 wrote: »

Completely agree A Class useless crap, going through carsireland.ie same price range and same engine. 1.5 DCI

A Class
https://www.carsireland.ie/2835377

Renault Megane
https://www.carsireland.ie/2822667

Maybe now the current A-Class is quite boring but the first A-Class was a revolution and a great little but I think it was really with the 2nd generation that Mercedes got it all right.

Pat_bottom wrote: »

I'm not a merc fan far from it but erm I think I could of done better then an ugly looking Renault with plastic interior to compare it too.

There is nothing ugly about that Megane. It is one of the best looking cars it its class and its interior is not plasticky. If it was on blue or red I doubt you would have said ugly ok black might not be it's best colour buts it's in no way ugly. If you still think that then you need to get your eyes checked.

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

All skodas (except maybe a well specced superb estate)
Crossovers by Hyuandi, Kia and Nissan
The last 1 series. Some versions of the new one look ok?
The first A class

Had a Nissan terrano for work once, hateful
Ditto old jeep Cherokee
May I add the susuki Vitara.
I'd point out that it's highly likely nobody liked any of these.

I also dislike range rovers so they're probably not in this thread either

Don't get the dacia or fluence hate. I'd not buy one but have no issue.
Don't get the juke or chr hate. Least they're a bit different.

All skodas . What did Skoda do to you that you hate them so much. They are the car for the clever sensible person , the person who understands the value of money and does not waste it.

Ash.J.Williams

AMKC wrote: »

Lol because the SUV is so much more practical not.

I take you have never been in an SUV. I have and everyone of then were better designed and drove better than all these SUVs on the roads. The Ford C-Max was the best do.

Wha?

brian_gall85

Wildly Boaring wrote: »

The first A class

I remember my dad hired one from EasyCar years ago in England for a weekend when we were over for a football game.

Class thing for £7 a day.

Wildly Boaring

AMKC wrote: »

All skodas . What did Skoda do to you that you hate them so much. They are the car for the clever sensible person , the person who understands the value of money and does not waste it.

What car do you hate that everyone else loves.
Not
What car do you think sensible people should buy.

Only reason I exempted the superb combi is I think they look well in the Tour de France footage.....

Just don't like their styling. Never have.
I'm allowed to not like them aren't I?

Normal One

AMKC wrote: »

There is nothing ugly about that Megane. It is one of the best looking cars it its class and its interior is not plasticky. If it was on blue or red I doubt you would have said ugly ok black might not be it's best colour buts it's in no way ugly. If you still think that then you need to get your eyes checked.

It’s ugly as sin; those stupid DRLs hanging under the headlights…tiny wheels….Oversized Renault badge…that big slab of plastic “infotainment system”…

A Focus/Corolla/Mazda 3 are all far superior IMO.

Pat_bottom

AMKC wrote: »

There is nothing ugly about that Megane. It is one of the best looking cars it its class and its interior is not plasticky. If it was on blue or red I doubt you would have said ugly ok black might not be it's best colour buts it's in no way ugly. If you still think that then you need to get your eyes checked.

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Do you drive a megane? That's the only reason I could think of you been so defensive of them.

Look inside the dashboard looks like a big ball of plastic, the seats are nice but it's a Renault you expect the seats to be Nice it's what they do best.

The outside its a generic design with a few shapes and grills thrown in to make it look sporty but it has arch gaps over the wheels that you could sleep in.

Nah that Megane is one ugly peace of machine.

I have a 152 Megane, and to be honest, I think they look well. The newer one (the 171 posted above) is also a lovely looking car in my opinion, but they really wrecked the dashboard. My 152 Megane is an older generation now, but it's got such a nicer, more welcoming dashboard than the ones that came after it.

Here's a rough example: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane-gt-line/27626231


Also, I think the Megane, for the last 10 years, looks its worse as a saloon. It makes much nicer looking in estate/hatchback form.


... Mind you, I also think that A-Class linked above is lovely, too.. so perhaps just a case of 'each to their own'. Just a pity the fella selling it has such a heavy camera and can't lift it any higher than 2ft off the ground :rolleyes:

Screwthebeast

Pat_bottom wrote: »

Everyone seems to love the Carina E but I hated them then and hate them now.

Probably because as a young mechanic back in the early 00s when one came into the garage you were guaranteed that it was a big dirty farmers car covered in muck and gonna be a mess to work on lol. Never took to them.

Toyota's, all Toyota's, they are dead behind the eyes.

Cars for people who have given up

Screwthebeast

Screwthebeast wrote: »

Toyota's, all Toyota's, they are dead behind the eyes.

Cars for people who have given up

They are far better styled though than nissans but I like your “dead behind the eyes” expression- soulless, but then again a lot of car manufacturers could be placed in that catagory

Screwthebeast

Screwthebeast wrote: »

Toyota's, all Toyota's, they are dead behind the eyes.

Cars for people who have given up

That’s the Passat.

lawred2

BMW X series. Vulgar things.

AMKC

the purple tin wrote: »

The C-Max! yes that's the one. Ugly as sin.

I disagree. It was a very classy , very comfortable lovely to drive car.

AMKC

Normal One wrote: »

It’s ugly as sin; those stupid DRLs hanging under the headlights…tiny wheels….Oversized Renault badge…that big slab of plastic “infotainment system”…

A Focus/Corolla/Mazda 3 are all far superior IMO.

I disagree. There is nothing stupid about the DRLS at least they get seen and if you know cars you can instantly recognise it as a Renault Megane. The wheel sizes depend on the spec of the car no worse than a golf or any other car in its class. That is a beautiful logo that Renault chrome Logo so why not shout about it. They are just doing what VW done making the Logo bigger that was the trend. I do think maybe it got a bit silly do and ye smaller is better.

Deleted User wrote: »

I have a 152 Megane, and to be honest, I think they look well. The newer one (the 171 posted above) is also a lovely looking car in my opinion, but they really wrecked the dashboard. My 152 Megane is an older generation now, but it's got such a nicer, more welcoming dashboard than the ones that came after it.

Here's a rough example: https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/renault-megane-gt-line/27626231


Also, I think the Megane, for the last 10 years, looks its worse as a saloon. It makes much nicer looking in estate/hatchback form.


... Mind you, I also think that A-Class linked above is lovely, too.. so perhaps just a case of 'each to their own'. Just a pity the fella selling it has such a heavy camera and can't lift it any higher than 2ft off the ground :rolleyes:

I do agree the MK iii Megane did have a nicer looking dash than the current one but it's still not bad and I disagree with you on the current Megane Grand Coupe. It is a great looking car best looking in its class even.
The Fluence before it was an inoffensive simply styled saloon that done the job it was intended for.