Republic of Ireland Team 2023/24 [old thread]

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448054#Comment_120448054

The edit doesn't make any sense. Where did I say I wanted him to play for Preston? And how does that reflect on the basket case that is Man United.

Confused 🤔

The hypocrisy part I am lost tbh

Did you smash it

The other 18 year old superstars in the world are already with huge clubs or have pre contractual in place with huge clubs. I don’t think there is a problem if Ferguson followed suit.

but given Brighton are fantastic (but not a huge club) he’s in the best place there for now

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120447355#Comment_120447355

Don't think Brighton would fancy developing the lad further for another club once he's sold. They're not a club who really use the loan market. Aaron Mooy and Levi Colwill are the only two first team loans they brought in since promotion and Colwill was only part of the deal for Cucurella.

If a big club were to spend the money probably needed to get Brighton to sell him they'd likely want him to join up straight away and settle in there.

kowloonkev

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448170#Comment_120448170

You are claiming the poster is biased because they might be a United fan, when you yourself appear biased against United.

You said you wouldn't want any member of the Irish team at United, so that means you would rather they stay at their current teams than join United. That's a bit bizarre when you look at their current clubs.

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448744#Comment_120448744

How does it mean that?? You are fairly jumping to conclusions. I neither like nor dislike Man U. I loved the team of Keane, Giggs, Scholes, Nevilles etc. Equally I loved the team back in the day of Robson, Stapleton, McGrath, Whiteside et al. That doesn't mean the club is not dysfunctional now. They have spent billions over the last few years and achieved sweet FA.

I would love Irish players at the top teams but not basket cases like Man U or Spurs.

Similar to only Liverpool fans who think Kelleher is best staying put I cannot see any reason why anyone other than a Man U fan would think it is a good place for a young 18 year old like Evan F. Give the lad some time. A short lean period and he would find himself out of a Man U match day squad. At Brighton he can get a bit more leeway. If I am wrong tell me why I am wrong instead of ranting about bias and jumping to weird conclusions.

pjohnson

United would be about the only big club that would be potentially good and safe for Ferguson.

Arsenal - Nketiah seems to have fallen behind Trossard filling in in a false 9 role after Jesus starting, so Ferguson would be down to 3rd in the pecking order replacing Nketiah (presumably Arsenal would only move for Ferguson if Nketiah quits) if he moved there.

Man City - Alvarez is struggling for game time against Haaland, so Ferguson would be playing rock paper scissors with Kalvin Phillips and Scott Carson on the bench.

Liverpool - primarily use false 9, not suitable for him.

Chelsea - in absolute hapes and who knows WTF they are doing, be incredibly risky to join as a young player and he could end up buried deep in the bench.

Spurs - not much better than Chelsea with serious off-field issues that should make them very unnattractive.

United - he'd probably be second choice after the big money striker they probably add this summer.

While he should stay put at Brighton ideally, United would be the only one that would offer him any potential reliable route to actual first team minutes. Instead of just buried deep in the bench.

Pawwed Rig

Plenty of clubs outside England.

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120448840#Comment_120448840

If the big money striker they sign turns out to be Harry Kane then would suit United to keep strong tabs on someone like Ferguson as a possible replacement in time as Kane probably only has a few seasons in him left.

Run Forest Run

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120446843#Comment_120446843

With the money that will be getting thrown around this summer, I would consider it unlikely that nobody will put a bid in for him.

I would agree with you, that it wouldn't do him any harm to stay at Brighton for another year. I just don't think it's likely, especially if he keeps impressing. If he was to go off the boil a bit, then possibly.

I think he'd stand a decent chance of starting for Newcastle. If they're in the CL next season, then they'll need more strength in depth and obviously more quality. Some big name players won't fancy playing for Newcastle, so I could see Howe going for up and coming talent like Ferguson.

johnnyryan89

Tom Cannon continuing his fine form for Preston with another two goals today. Brady assisted the first and believe Parrott assisted the second. Jimmy Dunne apparently poor in defence for both goals.

Don't think Kenny can ignore Cannon when it comes to June's squad. If Everton do go down might be a great thing for Cannon.

kowloonkev

What is Cannon's commitment level to Ireland I wonder. Anyone know his story? He looks impressive and very confident. Everton might be thinking it would be great to have England's next emerging striker or am I being paranoid :D

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120452117#Comment_120452117

Only one way to find out and the best way even is a June call up. Not like his form doesn't deserve one anyway and while one cap doesn't fully tie him down it does mean he's gotta wait three years before he could ever switch.

LowOdour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120452117#Comment_120452117

He is off Galway stock - I know some of his wider Irish relatives were in Cork for the U21 match. A good lad by all accounts, but same was said of Jack G so who knows

Francie Barrett

Cullen playing premier League football next season 👍

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120453129#Comment_120453129

And to seal promotion on your birthday. 11 points ahead of Sheffield United now with 21 to play for still.

Wales Online reporting that Obafemi's loan has now been made permanent after Burnley sealed promotion.

Ramasun

If Evan Ferguson is the real deal I will feel some sympathy for Stephen Kenny. He's probably 2 or 3 years away from being the striker Ireland really need and it's unlikely SK will still be in charge by then.

Brock Turnpike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120453229#Comment_120453229

The transfer embargo from EFL not affecting that? Maybe because the deal was agreed before the embargo?

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120453821#Comment_120453821

Yeah not sure about that but they'll be in the EPL next season so don't think any embargoes from the EFL will affect them. Transfer technically won't become permanent I'd assume until the summer window opens. Getting promoted just means they'll have to buy him once his loan finishes. By that stage they'd be a Premier League team.

Plus I think they're saying that the embargo should be lifted this month so even if they didn't get promoted he could still sign I'd assume as long as the embargo was sorted before June.

johnnyryan89

https://twitter.com/pnefc/status/1644633683872342017

https://twitter.com/pnefc/status/1644686542861127681

Onomah was credited with the assist for the second so Parrott didn't get a touch on it, and Brady crossed in for the first.

ceegee

Away kit looks to be white with horizontal green pinstripe judging by the twitter tease

Mervyn Skidmore

Cannon with another. Surely deserves a senior call up now.

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120461868#Comment_120461868

More than deserves a call up. Showing this form you say should he partner Ferguson in June or not.

Christy Browne

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462007#Comment_120462007

Too similar I think - it'd be one each of Ferguson/Cannon and Ogbene/Obafemi imo.

Brock Turnpike

Lads, is Andy Lyons worth a spot in the squad. Chips in with quite a few goals for a wing back, and that has continued to be the case in a struggling Blackpool side. Is he strong enough defensively for a senior call up?

deisedude

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462055#Comment_120462055

Great option off the bench though. Idah game and all as he is just doesn't possess a scoring threat

Weepsie

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462771#Comment_120462771

He's played mostly out wide hasn't he? so don't know why this is used as a metric for him all that often. That and his actual minutes. In 80 or so appearances , he's played only about half the available minutes. Doesn't seem to have a nailed down position which is both useful and a problem

Brock Turnpike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462800#Comment_120462800

Not really. He was playing as part of a front two with Puuki when they were last in the PL, and it was working quite well for them. He got injured though and their season tailed off after that.

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462055#Comment_120462055

Don't think they are and even if they're similar enough Ferguson has the attributes to play as your out and out CF or the role Parrott plays when he's playing in a two with Cannon.

Its what makes a front two of Ferguson/Obafemi, and at club level Ferguson/Welbeck, or Idah/Pukki last season work well that each player could drop off looking for the ball or stay up front making runs so would switch to keep defenders guessing.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120462515#Comment_120462515

Think of the young WB/FBs that we have he'll be the next one to break into the senior set up. Covers each side and finds himself in good attacking positions.

One of his goals a few weeks ago he was making a near post run for the LWB to pick him out with the pull back. Defensively not sure what he's like but with WBs you want them more attacking than defensive minded since they're the ones providing the width.

Pawwed Rig

Cannon definitely warrants a call up. Whether is a friendly or as a sub after we are already 3 up against Andorra*

*here's hoping

Brock Turnpike

Are we playing Andorra again?

Pawwed Rig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120463854#Comment_120463854

Sorry Gibraltar.

Same thing effectively- you would hope anyway 😬

ceegee

Not bad.

johnnyryan89

Top Irish goal scorers this season in the top two divisions in England. League goals with goals in all competitions in brackets.

Scott Hogan 10 (10)

Will Keane 10 (10)

Chiedozie Ogbene 7 (8)

Tom Cannon 7 (7)

Callum Robinson 5 (7)

Michael Obafemi 5 (5)

Evan Ferguson 4 (8)

Georgie Kelly 3 (3)

Troy Parrott 2 (3)

Aaron Connolly 2 (2)

Adam Idah 1 (2)

Shane Long 1 (2)

Brock Turnpike

What's the story with Connolly? Bright start at Hull and then completely disappears from match day squads

glenjamin

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464420#Comment_120464420

Injured. No return date as of yet.

ceegee

Away keeper jersey.

Outfield and GK aways are both improvements on the home equivalents IMO

The_Kew_Tour

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464240#Comment_120464240

Not the greatest but we have had far worse. Least kept it simple. Solid

It is a Dunne Deal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464240#Comment_120464240

Much nicer than the home one

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120464286#Comment_120464286

If you were to include everyone and not just lads playing up front for us you'll have:

Scott Hogan 10 (10)

Will Keane 10 (10)

Chiedozie Ogbene 7 (8)

Tom Cannon 7 (7)

Callum Robinson 5 (7)

Michael Obafemi 5 (5)

Evan Ferguson 4 (8)

Andy Lyons 4 (5)

Jeff Hendrick 4 (4)

Ryan Manning 4 (4)

Will Smallbone 3 (3)

James McClean 3 (3)

Callum O'Dowda 3 (3)

Cyrus Christie 3 (3)

Georgie Kelly 3 (3)

Troy Parrott 2 (3)

John Egan 2 (3)

Jayson Molumby 2 (2)

Dara O'Shea 2 (2)

Greg Cunningham 2 (2)

Jimmy Dunne 2 (2)

Aaron Connolly 2 (2)

Adam Idah 1 (2)

Shane Long 1 (2)

Alan Browne 1 (2)

CJ Hamilton 1 (2)

Andrew Omobamidele 1(1)

Josh Cullen 1 (1)

Ciaran Clark 1 (1)

Kevin Long 1 (1)

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120453129#Comment_120453129

I really hope so. But I'd be a bit cautious based on his spell with West Ham.

dr.kenneth noisewater

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120465517#Comment_120465517

For all the talk of Manning here, Andy Lyons has as many goals already in less than half the time and for a worse team. Not sure how good he is defensively but hopefully he can get a move in Summer and stay at championship level

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120465616#Comment_120465616

https://twitter.com/matt_scrafton/status/1645743501169295362

Actually just saw this on Twitter, and shows you how poor Blackpool is that he's their joint second highest goal scorer in the league.

Francie Barrett

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120465595#Comment_120465595

I'd be fairly confident that Kompany is going to stick with him next season. Would be a lot less confident about Obafemi getting a lot of game time though...

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120465926#Comment_120465926

That Burnley midfield is built around Cullen. Burnley fans rave about him and how he's the vital cog in the wheel that makes them tick.

~Rebel~

I see Ferguson went off before half time injured... was anyone watching? Did it look bad?

Azatadine

You'd have to wonder about Collins and Bazunu for next year. Bazunu will go down with Saints and he hasn't covered himself in glory either to be fair. He's been poor enough for them. Collins on the bench full time now.

ShamoBuc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481731#Comment_120481731

Looked like he jarred his ankle. Walked off on his own steam so hopefully he's okay.

johnnyryan89

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481775#Comment_120481775

DeZerbi has said he'll be out for a minimum a couple of weeks so unfortunately misses the cup semi final. Unless he's playing mind games as he said both players that went off injured will miss a couple of weeks minimum.

A pity as Ferguson looked bright in the minutes he played and probably should have scored before going off.

johnnyryan89

Ireland U19s Harry Vaughan gets his first start for Hull tonight away to Blackburn. Sammie Szmodics starts for Blackburn.

kowloonkev

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120481787#Comment_120481787

It would be hard to have that information just after the game. I'd say he's guessing.