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Glasnevin/Phisborough + Metro/DART = New City Centre

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,789 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    Strumms wrote: »
    I don’t think you could equate that really.. lots of apartments built elsewhere in areas where it wont negatively impact people, Belcamp being one..

    Phibsboro is a hugely built up area already as is Glasnevin, and Ballymun to the north... residents of both areas need to use the R108/Botanic Road to access the city... and beyond if driving... it’s going to be absolute gridlock in that area, dumb decision to grant permission.

    As long as bus and cycle lanes are well enforced with eye watering fines and draconian enforcement and there are very frequent DART and metro services, who cares if there's gridlock for cars?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,789 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    A 30% increase in 15 years, 410,000 people, natural birth rate is only 60,000 a year. That figure seems to imply a delibrate funneling of international inward migration into Dublin.

    Why not target that, it's not inevitable? It's not harder than or more expensive than turning Dublin into a mess of high rise the current population doesn't want.

    How does a modern western economy achieve growth without inward migration? Also the vast bulk of inward migration is from the rest of the EU so not a huge amount we can do about that.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    cgcsb wrote: »
    How does a modern western economy achieve growth without inward migration? Also the vast bulk of inward migration is from the rest of the EU so not a huge amount we can do about that.

    Plus the natural birth rate will give you an extra 900,000 people over 15 years.

    Not all in Dublin of course, but in the region of 230,000 to 300,000 extra people in Dublin based on birth alone.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    Modern apartments are perfectly safe and comfortable, I’d argue they’re safer and more comfortable than a poorly insulated energy inefficient red brick. The quality of life in a city apartment is much better than a suburban housing estate (at least for young people who want a social life).

    Yep, I live in an apartment, I've never lived in a home that was so comfortable, so warm, so well insulated and so quite.

    Also great that it has a big green garden all around it which is fantastic for the kids living there and in the area around. Really fantastic community spirit, people outside having picnics and all the neighbours keep an eye out for each others kids, etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭gjim


    Strumms wrote: »
    Is the population ‘naturally’ increasing ? ie people here having more and larger families?
    Is there a single period in the history of Dublin when this actually happened?

    Dublin has always attracted a huge influx of people. In the past mostly from the rest of the country but now that it's no longer a sh*thole/economic basket case, it's also attracting people from outside Ireland's borders. This is what cities are and have always been.

    If you want to "keep it in the family", then maybe a village in the Appallachian mountains might be more to your taste.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,789 ✭✭✭cgcsb


    I wonder what these people were saying back in the late 17th Century when Dublin was the world's sixth or seventh largest city, today's equivalent of Beijing. They must have been clutching their pearls all day long at the prospect of bigger and bigger developments. The Broad Streets commission would have definitely given them a cardiac arrest.


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