Is is Martin scorcese universally acknowledged as the worlds greatest director?

buried

Brian? wrote: »

I've no idea how he got the part, I seriously doubt it was because he was popular at the time. It would Bennett un Kubrick to pick someone because of popularity.

Redmond Barry is a cad and a bounder of the highest order. But a relatively soft one. O'Neill plays that brilliantly

I think Kubrick cast him perfectly for the role B & T. Ryan O'Neal constantly has this look on his face of constant bewilderment, almost like he doesn't know what he's doing there either, much like the character himself. Constantly caught in the headlights of life.

Capt'n Midnight

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

No love for william friedkin ???
The French connection, sorcerer, to live and die and la……killer Joe !!!!

And cruising !!!

I want to watch Sorcerer but I've to watch The Wages Of Fear first.,

NewbridgeIR

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Is it actually ? I haven’t seen it

I really enjoyed it. Very well shot - Boston 1950 and looks very authentic. Decent caper movie with good cast.

Tony EH

Brian? wrote: »

I've no idea how he got the part, I seriously doubt it was because he was popular at the time. It would Bennett un Kubrick to pick someone because of popularity.

Redmond Barry is a cad and a bounder of the highest order. But a relatively soft one. O'Neill plays that brilliantly

I'd wonder if Kubrick was the main reason behind his casting though. He was having trouble with financing and maybe the studio insisted on a hot ticket star.

Either way, it remains a bit of a mystery just how he ended up with the part.

Brian?

buried wrote: »

I think Kubrick cast him perfectly for the role B & T. Ryan O'Neal constantly has this look on his face of constant bewilderment, almost like he doesn't know what he's doing there either, much like the character himself. Constantly caught in the headlights of life.

I agree.

I just found some trivia on IMDb though. Apparently Warner bros were worried about the mass appeal of the film. So they insisted whoever played the title role had to be in the top10 selling actors in 1973. Only Redford and O’Neal were Irish looking and Redford was too old.

I wonder if that’s true.

Tony EH

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I want to watch Sorcerer but I've to watch The Wages Of Fear first.,

You don't really have to watch them in any particular order.

TBH, I'd say watch the Friedkin movie. It's kinda its own thing. Plus there are scenes in that blow the Clouzot one out of the water. The 50's movie will always be a classic, but I think 'Sorcerer' is probably the better film.

EltonJohn69

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

I really enjoyed it. Very well shot - Boston 1950 and looks very authentic. Decent caper movie with good cast.

It’s on the list

EltonJohn69

Tony EH wrote: »

You don't really have to watch them in any particular order.

TBH, I'd say watch the Friedkin movie. It's kinda its own thing. Plus there are scenes in that blow the Clouzot one out of the water. The 50's movie will always be a classic, but I think 'Sorcerer' is probably the better film.

And don’t forget sorcerer has a tangerine dream soundtrack

Tony EH

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

And don’t forget sorcerer has a tangerine dream soundtrack

I'm listening to it right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phJKQcvZ3sE

EltonJohn69

Tony EH wrote: »

I'm listening to it right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phJKQcvZ3sE

Can’t beat the tangerine

Kaybaykwah

Tony EH wrote: »

It doesn't take from the film too badly and everything else is damn near perfect. But still, how the hell did that happen? I know O'Neal was hot stuff on the back of 'Paper Moon', but really.

The supporting cast all tear him apart, even the minor roles, although I do think he does well with respect to Redmond Barry's personality (he's a bit of a knob).

Now that you mention it, Bogdonovich is a great director, and archivist, like Scorcese.

Paper Moon is my all time favorite. It doesn't try to impress with fancy shmancy shide, the director, and his then wife, production designer Polly Platt did a superb job of getting everything right. It remains one of the most compelling illustrations of the art of storytelling in Filmmaking.


As Martin Scorcese goes, I really like his Raging Bull. It's a very strong piece of work.

Kubrick is way up there. So much variety, he would obsess over a topic, and bring it to life on his own masterful terms.

Keyzer

Tony EH wrote: »

That's not really what I am doing or intend to do.

I just used the term "enjoyable", in a rather facetious manner, because both movies are a serious and in a number of ways a tough watch. Although there's actually more visceral nastiness in 'Casino' than there is in 'Schindler's List', even if the latter movie has more umph in its subject matter.



And nowhere did I even suggest that one should. The thing is, when it comes to moves about the war in general, they tend to leave me relatively unsatisfied and Hollywood's obsession with the holocaust is no different. So, I am probably the worst person to sit down to anything about the war, because I'll tend to pick it apart as opposed to just simply watching the story.



Of course, but why would that be a reason to kill a conversation or an "argument"?



And that's perfectly fine.

Wasn't starting an argument, i use the word in the debating sense.

Lets keep this discussion going and be civil to each other.

Keyzer

One director not mentioned yet is Michael Mann (maybe he was, perhaps I missed it).

Last of the Mohicans is one of my favorite movies, love it.

Heat, probably my all time favorite movie and one I've watched countless times. The last really decent film De Niro was involved in, the real De Niro. Dark, complex, gritty, realistic and unforgiving. Went on to inspire many more movies and video games. The cinematography is incredible and the shoot out scene was an achievement in itself.

He's had a few turkeys since though, Miami Vice was a giant turd.

But he's not the "greatest" of all time.

EltonJohn69

Keyzer wrote: »

One director not mentioned yet is Michael Mann (maybe he was, perhaps I missed it).

Last of the Mohicans is one of my favorite movies, love it.

Heat, probably my all time favorite movie and one I've watched countless times. The last really decent film De Niro was involved in, the real De Niro. Dark, complex, gritty, realistic and unforgiving. Went on to inspire many more movies and video games. The cinematography is incredible and the shoot out scene was an achievement in itself.

He's had a few turkeys since though, Miami Vice was a giant turd.

But he's not the "greatest" of all time.

Mann’s greatest movie is…. Manhunter…. It has a dreamlike quality to it… plus a tangerine dream score

Arghus

Big fan of Thief myself.

NewbridgeIR

Arghus wrote: »

Big fan of Thief myself.

James Caan very good in it plus another (tangerine) dreamy score.

Brian?

I’m watching The Lost World: Jurassic Park with the kids. Holy Christ, it’s awful.

I even went to imdb to check if Spielberg actually directed it. Jurassic Park wasn’t great, but entertaining. This thing is horrendous.

Capt'n Midnight

Brian? wrote: »

I’m watching The Lost World: Jurassic Park with the kids. Holy Christ, it’s awful.

Are you watching The Director's Cut , with extra dinosaurs ?

Brian?

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Are you watching The Director's Cut , with extra dinosaurs ?

I don’t know. How many dinosaurs are extra?

I’m finished it now. I think it’s the worst Spielberg film I’ve ever seen. I’ve committed to watching the whole series, I’m dreading the next one now.

Tilden Katz

Tony EH wrote: »

^
If there's a single weakness to 'Barry Lyndon', it's Ryan O'Neil. How he got the gig I'll never know. Although he grates on you less and less as the movie plays out.

I watched Love Story on Netflix and I can’t get over how ropey the acting is. From both O’Neal and MacGraw.

Capt'n Midnight

Brian? wrote: »

I don’t know. How many dinosaurs are extra?

It's a Fr Ted quote.

I’m finished it now. I think it’s the worst Spielberg film I’ve ever seen. I’ve committed to watching the whole series, I’m dreading the next one now.

Téa Leoni is really annoying in III

Gaspode

No

Hego Damask

Christopher Nolan is way better.

Brian?

Hego Damask wrote: »

Christopher Nolan is way better.

Or is he?

Maybe you’ve misunderstood his films all along .....

Brian?

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

It's a Fr Ted quote.



Téa Leoni is really annoying in III

I’m a dope, of course it’s Fr Ted.

Hercule Poirot

Kinji Fukasaku is Scorsese's only rival

Brian?

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Kinji Fukasaku is Scorsese's only rival

I do love Shogun's Samurai