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Sweeping new powers for Gardai (and no opposition)

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    #122
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    Tip of the iceberg i'd say

    Or it might suggest the vast majority of Gardai go about their business to the best of their ability.


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    #123
    ineedeuro
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    corner of hells wrote: »
    As of last month , over 70 Gardai are currently suspended and in the last three years 17 have been dismissed. So it does suggest there is some form of accountability and disciplinary procedures being in use.

    14,708 members and 2944 reserves. So 70 is 0.39% of staff.


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    #124
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    14,708 members and 2944 reserves. So 70 is 0.39% of staff.

    So what would like to do ? Randomly suspend Gardai that have done nothing.


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    #125
    Jeremy Sproket
    Registered Users Posts: 431 ✭✭Jeremy Sproket


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    #126
    ineedeuro
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    corner of hells wrote: »
    So what would like to do ? Randomly suspend Gardai that have done nothing.

    I have no idea what you mean?


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    #127
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    I have no idea what you mean?

    Maybe im reading your post incorrectly, it looked to me that you were suggesting to little Gardai have been suspended or discharged .Apologies if im wrong.


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    #128
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Jeremy Sproket wrote: »
    quote-the-best-way-to-take-control-over-a-people-and-control-them-utterly-is-to-take-a-little-adolf-hitler-51-52-29.jpg?w=540&h=254

    That quote is generally not accepted as one of Hitler's and nor is it in Mein Kampf.


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    #129
    Fandymo
    Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Maybe im reading your post incorrectly, it looked to me that you were suggesting to little Gardai have been suspended or discharged .Apologies if im wrong.

    We’ll see how many are suspended when random drug tests are rolled out and how long it lasts. There are loads of them on the bag at weekends and who smoke weed daily. I’m guessing once they see the numbers it’ll be quietly dropped.


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    #130
    ineedeuro
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    corner of hells wrote: »
    Maybe im reading your post incorrectly, it looked to me that you were suggesting to little Gardai have been suspended or discharged .Apologies if im wrong.

    No I am saying that out of the total Gardai staff only 0.39% are suspended. You will always have some bad eggs in a large organisation. If nobody was suspended I would be more concerned


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    #131
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,385 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Fandymo wrote: »
    We’ll see how many are suspended when random drug tests are rolled out and how long it lasts. There are loads of them on the bag at weekends and who smoke weed daily. I’m guessing once they see the numbers it’ll be quietly dropped.

    I wonder would GSOC be interested if you contacted them.


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    #132
    o1s1n
    Registered Users Posts: 35,018 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Jeremy Sproket wrote: »
    quote-the-best-way-to-take-control-over-a-people-and-control-them-utterly-is-to-take-a-little-adolf-hitler-51-52-29.jpg?w=540&h=254

    quote-abraham-lincoln-quote-internet-fake.jpg


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    #133
    ineedeuro
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Jeremy Sproket wrote: »
    quote-the-best-way-to-take-control-over-a-people-and-control-them-utterly-is-to-take-a-little-adolf-hitler-51-52-29.jpg?w=540&h=254

    Hitler steamrolled everyone and everything out of his way

    Nothing and eroding or tiny with that boyo!!!


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    #134
    Necro
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 51,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Fandymo wrote: »
    We’ll see how many are suspended when random drug tests are rolled out and how long it lasts. There are loads of them on the bag at weekends and who smoke weed daily. I’m guessing once they see the numbers it’ll be quietly dropped.

    Have you any evidence of this claim? If not don't bring it up again


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    #135
    Shebean
    Registered Users Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean


    Onion Bahji wrote: »
    Shhhure if you’ve done nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear

    Unless you are a Garda whistleblower, a politician the government don't like, (Clare Daly/Paul Murphy) someone the local Garda Sergent doesn't like, someone investigating no paper trail Garda contracts with contractors, breath test inconsistencies, or your local Garda works for drug dealers or your ex is a disgruntled Garda, or your information is passed on or sold without your knowledge.


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    #136
    Peregrinus
    Registered Users Posts: 26,511 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    Jeremy Sproket wrote: »
    quote-the-best-way-to-take-control-over-a-people-and-control-them-utterly-is-to-take-a-little-adolf-hitler-51-52-29.jpg?w=540&h=254
    The best way to oppose an idea without having to be arsed to construct a reasoned argument against it is to make up a quote apparently supportive of the idea, and attribute it to Hitler.


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    #137
    RulesOfNature
    Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭RulesOfNature


    NoLuckLarry wrote: »
    Yeah because the "war on drugs" is going to be won by going through text messages from a guy with a 25 bag :rolleyes:

    You should be very very careful about what rights you flippantly want to have removed because once one goes, more will follow.

    People just refuse to learn from history. Complete and utter delusion: thinking the Gardai have your absolute best interest in mind.

    They exist to bolster the stranglehold FF/FG has in the country. They are there for evictions, worker strikes and the property rights of the ruling class. They are not there protect you in any way.

    They WILL abuse these new rights. And it will be too late.


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    #138
    ineedeuro
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    RulesOfNature wrote: »
    People just refuse to learn from history. Complete and utter delusion: thinking the Gardai have your absolute best interest in mind.

    They exist to bolster the stranglehold FF/FG has in the country. They are there for evictions, worker strikes and the property rights of the ruling class. They are not there protect you in any way.

    They WILL abuse these new rights. And it will be too late.

    Do people really believe this rubbish? Why would the Gardai be working to keep FF and FG in power after they have underfunded them for the last 30 years? If not more


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    #139
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users Posts: 5,248 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    Do people really believe this rubbish? Why would the Gardai be working to keep FF and FG in power after they have underfunded them for the last 30 years? If not more

    I don't think that is the case but the obvious answer is that if ff/fg aren't in power, then sf will be.


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