Three men arrested after shocking incident involving bar staff on South William Stree

namloc1980

obi604 wrote: »

true, but what if the scum connected with the bottle - way more serious

Ah but he probably comes from a broken family, tough upbringing yadda, yadda etc

obi604

ShineOn7 wrote: »

I've seen some serious little scrotes in my time, but rarely as bad as this guy and the general menace they have about them now

He was trying to connect a bottle of wine with someone's head and then the same little cnut grabbed a pint glass and tried to mallet someone with that

In most civilized countries the first one (at least) is attempted GBH, regardless of the age of the attacker

he has to be on something, you see him in the video and he is getting more excited at the escalating violence, on his toes and waving arms and kinda really overly hyper during it

stargazer 68

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's borerline embarrassing that there are probably one hundred people sitting, doing nothing, watching barmen dealing with .

And they wouldn't have had to do anything. All it would have taken is 4 or 5 lads to stand up and look like they were about to help and the little scrotes would have run.

kildare lad

kildare lad wrote: »

Where are all the garda ? I've seen a good few videos like this over the last few weeks and there's not a garda in sight in Dublin . Whether it be gangs of teens battering each other on o Connell street or morons jumping on taxis in Chapel street , is there a lack of policing in the city . Its not a great look for tourism in our capital city, when its infested with scrotes who've no shame in acting like scumbags in board daylight. There needs to be a serious shake up of the justice system and the welfare system that seems to spawn feral kids from feral parents

Yep. Not a single act of violence has occured in the past 24 hours in Milan, Madrid, London, Paris, Belfast, Berlin................

Every single one of the above fyi have more police than Dublin has. Is there a shortage? Yes and thats not new information nor will additional police alone solve the issue when you have politicians whinging that the police went on patrol "looking intimidating" or that they dared to use their batons or indeed, when the scumbags will only see the inside of a cell while they are in Garda custody waiting to be released to mammy and daddy

kildare lad

Witcher wrote: »

They're probably dealing with some sh1te two streets over.

The Gardai aren't like the Borg from Star Trek where more can just appear from the hivemind when required, if the ones working are busy they're busy.

Talk to your TD. Arrests have already been made anyway.

That's good to know , I'm not knocking the garda btw as I've a family member whose one . Its just a bit shocking seeing multiple video's like that during the day in our capital city . You'd expect it at night but it's fairly brazen seeing it during the day . They must know they're on camera , it's like they've no fear of cops or the justice system .

0ph0rce0

obi604 wrote: »

he has to be on something, you see him in the video and he is getting more excited at the escalating violence, on his toes and waving arms and kinda really overly hyper during it

That's just the adrenaline rush

gmisk

Doubt anything will happen to them...broken homes bla bla

ShineOn7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Did you watch the video?

They initially retreated but then it riled them up even more and the wine bottle was half smashed off the worker's head

These little fcukers didn't wet themselves

Did you perchance? I saw him retreat and then RUN AWAY while his mates gestured.

italodisco

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

There would be zero, the skangers were clearly the aggressors and self defence is justifiable use of force

People also try and make out that you cant defend yourself. I dont know why because we see it daily

A round house kick to the head against an unarmed minor would not be a justifiable use of force in court, please don't make statements that are incorrect.

If the individual was holding a knife at the time it would, but take it from someone whos been taken away in cuffs after defending himself on the job, its not a risk worth taking.

Defend yourself, but if you're martial arts trained or a boxer don't use the best of your abilities on attackers unless there's a threat to life.

kildare lad

kildare lad wrote: »

Where are all the garda ? I've seen a good few videos like this over the last few weeks and there's not a garda in sight in Dublin . Whether it be gangs of teens battering each other on o Connell street or morons jumping on taxis in Chapel street , is there a lack of policing in the city . Its not a great look for tourism in our capital city, when its infested with scrotes who've no shame in acting like scumbags in board daylight. There needs to be a serious shake up of the justice system and the welfare system that seems to spawn feral kids from feral parents

Finally people are paying attention to what we who live and work in Dublin City know is a serious problem. It's a different world out in the suburbs of Maynooth /Leixlip /Celbridge and beyond. Feels like a different country in fact.

Meanwhile in Dublin people will continue to be attacked going about their business, stabbed on the way home from work or pushed under trains.

Zeek12

Ah Jeez. What a grim start to the weekend watching that.:(
But it isn't surprising at all. And in keeping with behaviour of recent weeks.

The lad smashing the bottle is the scummiest and most vile brand of thug you could see.

So we endured a year of lockdowns.....to end up with this??

nullzero

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

There would be zero, the skangers were clearly the aggressors and self defence is justifiable use of force

People also try and make out that you cant defend yourself. I dont know why because we see it daily

I doubt those kicks would be seen as proportional self defense even though to me and you they are, we can't predict if little Dean or Jordan may bang their (admittedly empty) heads off the ground once they get kicked.

The prevalence of these type of violent incidents between staff of businesses in our capital city and little scrotes who are only in there to get into fights with people are indications of how ineffective our policing is in the city and if this has been affected by politicians interfering those politicians should be ashamed of themselves.

italodisco

italodisco wrote: »

A round house kick to the head against an unarmed minor would not be a justifiable use of force in court, please don't make statements that are incorrect.

If the individual was holding a knife at the time it would, but take it from someone whos been taken away in cuffs after defending himself on the job, its not a risk worth taking.

Defend yourself, but if you're martial arts trained or a boxer don't use the best of your abilities on attackers unless there's a threat to life.

I will make statements that are fully correct having investigated hundreds of similar cases with 20 years in AGS

0ph0rce0

italodisco wrote: »

A round house kick to the head against an unarmed minor would not be a justifiable use of force in court, please don't make statements that are incorrect.

If the individual was holding a knife at the time it would, but take it from someone whos been taken away in cuffs after defending himself on the job, its not a risk worth taking.

Defend yourself, but if you're martial arts trained or a boxer don't use the best of your abilities on attackers unless there's a threat to life.

Agree with that. Knew a lad that hit back in self defense after being started on. Knocked your man out and done some serious damage to him, was just an unlucky blow.

Went to court and found out he had a bit of karate training going back, used it against him and he got locked up for 7 years

nullzero

nullzero wrote: »

I doubt those kicks would be seen as proportional self defense even though to me and you they are, we can't predict if little Dean or Jordan may bang their (admittedly empty) heads off the ground once they get kicked.

The prevalence of these type of violent incidents between staff of businesses in our capital city and little scrotes who are only in there to get into fights with people are indications of how ineffective our policing is in the city and if this has been affected by politicians interfering those politicians should be ashamed of themselves.

banging his head makes no difference. You are being attacked, you can use a kick. You will also (if charged) be sent for trial to a jury or people who walk the same streets and meet the same scumbags

italodisco

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I will make statements that are fully correct having investigated hundreds of similar cases with 20 years in AGS

You clearly are not a member of AGS if you consider that a roundhouse kick to the head of an unarmed minor would be deemed an acceptable use of force by a judge.

Niner leprauchan

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

There would be zero, the skangers were clearly the aggressors and self defence is justifiable use of force

I think the concern would be more that the scummer would still get a personal injury specialist solicitor to have a look anyway, and try to initiate court proceedings which, even if they went nowhere, could cost barman a few euro in getting his own solicitor sorted out.

nullzero wrote: »

I doubt those kicks would be seen as proportional self defense even though to me and you they are, we can't predict if little Dean or Jordan may bang their (admittedly empty) heads off the ground once they get kicked.

Niner's a Garda so presumably would be on the ball in relation to his opinion on this kinda craic.

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Not a single act of violence has occured in the past 24 hours in Milan, Madrid, London, Paris, Belfast, Berlin

We should have one of those Europe days, like EDWARD (European Day Without A Road Death). European Day Without A Scumbag Assualt.

Ninthlife

Zeek12 wrote: »

Ah Jeez. What a grim

So we endured a year of lockdowns.....to end up with this??

Mors like alot of people endure their jobs, paying tax, trying to do the right thing to end up supporting scum and their families like this.

No law or court puts any fear in them. Free legal aid, few days spent hanging round the Courts, Judge tells them off and then back out on the streets to cause more mayhem.

kildare lad

kildare lad wrote: »

Where are all the garda ? I've seen a good few videos like this over the last few weeks and there's not a garda in sight in Dublin . Whether it be gangs of teens battering each other on o Connell street or morons jumping on taxis in Chapel street , is there a lack of policing in the city . Its not a great look for tourism in our capital city, when its infested with scrotes who've no shame in acting like scumbags in board daylight. There needs to be a serious shake up of the justice system and the welfare system that seems to spawn feral kids from feral parents

Best way for that to happen is that either crime is made an election point which it never has, or those types of images start to go out around the world and the Government are forced into doing something to protect the nations image for tourism.

I've been to most capitals in Europe now and I never felt unsafe or bothered about walking around, day or night, but big Irish towns and cities always have bad elements hanging around the city centres.
It's really only ourselves and the UK that have these types of welfare scroungers as society class, all brought on by policies that continue to this day.

ShineOn7

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Did you perchance? I saw him retreat and then RUN AWAY while his mates gestured.

And then he ran back towards Roundhouse Kick Guy with a jaysus bottle

Roundhouse Kick Guy then ends up in hospital when it partially connects the second time

Niner leprauchan

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I will make statements that are fully correct having investigated hundreds of similar cases with 20 years in AGS

May aswell ask, What's the inside view on policing in the capital? As an observer it looks very wishy washy and the right areas are not being resourced up properly.

Why are Gardaí more visible on foot in safer areas like Donnybrook as opposed to being on foot and community policing and building relationships in places that really need it such as Ballybough and East Wall? They stay in their cars here.

The scrotes in these videos originate from such places.

Fandymo

italodisco wrote: »

I've worked doors for years on weekends in town, grown up amongst the likes of them and I can tell you now, those lads would be in serious bother if one of those waiters was a hot head who like a fight.

I've seen guys on their own take on 4 or 5 lads on the street and batter a few of them, the others wet themaelves when they realise their up against a brawler.

But my best advice from having to put up with halfwits in town for years is to not engage, no matter how much they wind you up. Unless they touch a child or attack a woman, just ignore them.

Their families would be very quick to take a claim against you, don't forget that too!

I’ve seen it alleged that it all started when the scrotes knocked over a pregnant lady.

kildare lad

namloc1980 wrote: »

Yeah. If yer man had connected with the kicks or the other guy used the chair, they would've been the ones arrested and up in court for assault and lost their jobs. While the scrotes wouldn't even get a slap on the wrist. In fact they'd probably sue for de trauma of it.

Sure look at the mother whose sueing iarnoid eireann . Shes angry that the video came out of her fine son attacking girls resulting in one of them falling under the train . After the girl fell under the train . Seeing what goes on in the courts here , I wouldn't be surprised if she's wins the case .

KeepItLight

The problem aren't the lack of garda on the streets, its that the scumbags are fearless in the first pace because they know if they get arrested the consequences are minimal. I would place a very large bet on these scrotes not being first-time offenders. The only solution are long mandatory prison/juvenile detention sentences. Before anyone starts going off about recidivism rates, they'll commit no crimes in a cell.

jrosen

Im only surprised it happened around South W St., not that it happened. Dublin City centre is a kip

0ph0rce0

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

Agree with that. Knew a lad that hit back in self defense after being started on. Knocked your man out and done some serious damage to him, was just an unlucky blow.

Went to court and found out he had a bit of karate training going back, used it against him and he got locked up for 7 years

What case was that where a jury of his peers felt it wasnt self defence?

Pinoy adventure

italodisco wrote: »

A round house kick to the head against an unarmed minor would not be a justifiable use of force in court, please don't make statements that are incorrect.

If the individual was holding a knife at the time it would, but take it from someone whos been taken away in cuffs after defending himself on the job, its not a risk worth taking.

Defend yourself, but if you're martial arts trained or a boxer don't use the best of your abilities on attackers unless there's a threat to life.

The lad who swung the round house holds a red belt in BJJ and trains in town from São Paulo originally

ShineOn7

Northernlily wrote: »

May aswell ask, What's the inside view on policing in the capital? As an observer it looks very wishy washy and the right areas are not being resources up properly.

Why are Gardaí more visible on foot in safer areas like Donnybrook as opposed to community policing and building relationships in places that really need it such as Ballybough and East Wall? The scrotes in these videos originate from such places.

Because they want and have always wanted an easy life

You'll always get more Guards in Dublin 2 (Southside) than Dublin 1 (Northside)

Always

Occasionally for optics they'll post a lone Guard standing near the GPO who has his head stuck in his phone most of the time he's there (have witnessed this myself)

Witcher

Northernlily wrote: »

May aswell ask, What's the inside view on policing in the capital? As an observer it looks very wishy washy and the right areas are not being resourced up properly.

Why are Gardaí more visible on foot in safer areas like Donnybrook as opposed to being on foot and community policing and building relationships in places that really need it such as Ballybough and East Wall? They stay in their cars here.

The scrotes in these videos originate from such places.

They stay in cars out around the northside because they're going from call to call and haven't got time to be pissing about on the beat.

kildare lad

kildare lad wrote: »

Sure look at the mother whose sueing iarnoid eireann . Shes angry that the video came out of her fine son attacking girls resulting in one of them falling under the train . After the girl fell under the train . Seeing what goes on in the courts here , I wouldn't be surprised if she's wins the case .

Thats under data protection law because the CCTV was leaked by staff. she will win the case