The BBC again: ‘No whites need apply’

km991148

It's quite a pathetic attempt in the campaign against the BBC tbh. It seems this is all about a charity organisation that us set up to give opportunities to underrepresented groups. It's not a policy of the BBC to try and force positive discrimination (which is illegal in the UK anyway). The group also advertise for all of the UK national main broadcasters. It's particular funny that the DM have their own similar scheme.

Another win for the Daily Mail tho, this sorta stuff earns them a fortune. They must be laughing at how easy it is to monetise this crap from the punters that just can't help but lap it up.

Seriously tho.. the amount of contempt they have for their readership.. would you not be embarrassed to post any DM article in good faith.

km991148

km991148 wrote: »

I'll ignore the dig if you'll forgive my faceioussness, are we not able to lighten up a little?

Besides you have no Idea the title of the paper, never mind how it was funded, so your mocking of it is as bad as the assumptions you made.

Forgiven.

I know I don't know how it was funded, hence why I said I hoped it wasn't government funded.

biko

It's frightening that the national broadcaster of the UK wants to actively discriminate against the majority of the population that is forced to fund it.

km991148

biko wrote: »

It's frightening that the national broadcaster of the UK wants to actively discriminate against the majority of the population that is forced to fund it.

Not as scary as the amount of people that believe that!

biko

km991148 wrote: »

Not as scary as the amount of people that believe that!

Do you mean that this info is incorrect? Can you set the record straight perhaps?

The BBC has sparked a discrimination row after only allowing people from ethnic minorities to apply for a trainee position.

Thelonious Monk

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Life is just getting harder and harder for white people

Well that’s definitely the case, of course, since they are being discriminated against. Or rather the working classes are.

To be fair the BBC has historically discriminated against non RP whites for generations, it’s just amplifying that now.

EnzoScifo

EnzoScifo wrote: »

Nothing as simple as blood and soil eh?

My "black and white" thinking relates to colonialism, the theft of natural resources and the imposition of divide and rule on decolonisation to create an economic dependence on the old powers. This lead to civil wars, tribal conflict and widespread poverty. These wars lead to migraton to make a new life in peace and prosperity. Due to the hegemonic cultural leftovers in these former colonies such as language, these people are drawn to the old colonial country to settle and make a new life for themselves. Why wouldn't you follow the money?

Your thinking is "Me and people like me are the most important thing"

And yet this policy also discriminates against the Irish, Scots and Welsh. So that doesn’t make sense either. It’s not anti English.

By the way the average “white” including the English working class didn’t gain much from the empire. We know who benefitted from the empire, and their descendents are probably dominant in the BBC and will continue to be so.

km991148

biko wrote: »

Do you mean that this info is incorrect? Can you set the record straight perhaps?

I think the only 'discrimination row' exists in the DM article.
The BBC aren't doing anything different from any of the other national broadcasters or the Daily Mail themselves.

They worked with some charity to create a role for those in underrepresented groups. One job. Same as Sky, same as ITV, same as the DM (except they done it directly).

Now we have some context (that was conveniently ommited from the 'article') - are you still frightened? If so, why are you scared? Has that stopped you from pursuing your life long dream to enter a youth internship programme?


Some people really need to stop buying into this crap.

km991148

km991148 wrote: »

I think the only 'discrimination row' exists in the DM article.
The BBC aren't doing anything different from any of the other national broadcasters or the Daily Mail themselves.

They worked with some charity to create a role for those in underrepresented groups. One job. Same as Sky, same as ITV, same as the DM (except they done it directly).

Now we have some context (that was conveniently ommited from the 'article') - are you still frightened? If so, why are you scared? Has that stopped you from pursuing your life long dream to enter a youth internship programme?


Some people really need to stop buying into this crap.

How about this. Kick out the top 10%. Everybody else is historically discriminated against. The BBC is run by the same public schoolboys who after graduating from an Oxbridge university claim most of the top jobs in Blighty. These are mostly the same people who ran the empire.

Get rid of them. Hire some Welsh or Polish. Even if they is white.

biko

km991148 wrote: »

I think the only 'discrimination row' exists in the DM article.
The BBC aren't doing anything different from any of the other national broadcasters or the Daily Mail themselves.

They worked with some charity to create a role for those in underrepresented groups. One job. Same as Sky, same as ITV, same as the DM (except they done it directly).

Now we have some context (that was conveniently ommited from the 'article') - are you still frightened? If so, why are you scared? Has that stopped you from pursuing your life long dream to enter a youth internship programme?


Some people really need to stop buying into this crap.

Can you back any of those claims up? It sounds like you are saying Sky, ITV and DM themselves have blocked whites from applying to positions.

suicide_circus

km991148 wrote: »

I think the only 'discrimination row' exists in the DM article.
The BBC aren't doing anything different from any of the other national broadcasters or the Daily Mail themselves.

They worked with some charity to create a role for those in underrepresented groups. One job. Same as Sky, same as ITV, same as the DM (except they done it directly).

Now we have some context (that was conveniently ommited from the 'article') - are you still frightened? If so, why are you scared? Has that stopped you from pursuing your life long dream to enter a youth internship programme?


Some people really need to stop buying into this crap.

Ok setting aside the fact that the DM may also engage in racial discrimination, it's still wrong.

85603

EnzoScifo wrote: »

Europeans did it to every other continent on Earth. About time the chickens came home to roost.

the carthagenians (africans) and mongols (east asians) and ottomans (mid-eastern/asians) invaded europe first. so we're all square.

EnzoScifo

EnzoScifo wrote: »

Europeans did it to every other continent on Earth. About time the chickens came home to roost.

Europeans? There are 44 European countries. Most weren’t colonisers.

km991148

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How about this. Kick out the top 10%. Everybody else is historically discriminated against. The BBC is run by the same public schoolboys who after graduating from an Oxbridge university claim most of the top jobs in Blighty. These are mostly the same people who ran the empire.

Get rid of them. Hire some Welsh or Polish. Even if they is white.

Hey, skin colour aside, nothing I said would prevent sticking it to the top network of the old boys club.

But this is the thing... The Daily Mail and the like are run by the same cronies and the live to pedal this shyte to keep people at loggerheads.. and it works. It's the same users quoting the same nonsense from such publications.. really they do nothing but show absolute contempt for their readers and they just can't help but keep coming back for more!!

Shield

biko wrote: »

Do you mean that this info is incorrect? Can you set the record straight perhaps?

Fact check: they said it:

“Last night, the BBC would not disclose how many training roles were similarly advertised, but a spokesman said: 'The BBC is a welcoming, inclusive organisation committed to representing and reflecting our audiences. We support a scheme organised by Creative Access, an independent organisation dedicated to increasing diversity in the creative industries, which provides development roles, fully in line with the Equality Act.”

So they support a race-based hiring scheme.

Silentcorner

This is why the BBC's once quality out put in news, sport and comedy across TV and Radio in particular is rapidly diminishing!!!

They can hire who they want but if they lose audiences who get's the blame?

EnzoScifo

EnzoScifo wrote: »

It computes that Irish should be acutely aware of the discrimination faced by immigrants in the job market and should support programs to help.

No blacks, no dogs, no Irish was the slogan. People here would be happy to show the sign now that the Irish part is gone.

The Irish are being discriminated here by the BBC. No Irish, no Poles, no Welsh.

km991148

biko wrote: »

Can you back any of those claims up? It sounds like you are saying Sky, ITV and DM themselves have blocked whites from applying to positions.

Go to creative access website.

Look at the first or second page of thus thread, someone linked to a DM job ad for a similar scheme.

It's not hard to do very basic research, it's not like the DM are going to tell you this, it's not part of the agenda.

This is grossly unfair on white people who would like to apply. Mostly young people who would be interested but if you are white and born in 2000, sorry but, colonialism

km991148

km991148 wrote: »

Hey, skin colour aside, nothing I said would prevent sticking it to the top network of the old boys club.!

Yeh? But that’s not happening is it? The elites in Britain always come out pretty regardless.

We know who the slave holders were by the way and nothing is done to their descendants.

km991148

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ok setting aside the fact that the DM may also engage in racial discrimination, it's still wrong.

But in balance, is it as bad as deliberately mis representing a situation to fuel division for the sake of profit?

Given that we are talking about a very small amount of internships here.

suicide_circus

Hasnt Affirmative Action been running for decades in American higher eduction and elsewhere and yet apparently racism is at an all time high?

km991148

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeh? But that’s not happening is it? The elites in Britain always come out pretty regardless.

And the more they are allowed to profit from organisations such as the DM the more that it will continue.

If you read that rag you are directly ensuring that the system continues as-is.

They are completely taking the piss. If I were a DM customer, I'd be fuming at that more than some internship in Glasgow.

km991148

suicide_circus wrote: »

Hasnt Affirmative Action been running for decades in American higher eduction and elsewhere and yet apparently racism is at all time high?

Yeah, but it's not allowed over here. I don't think you can be a daily mail reader and claim to care about racism or discrimination. They actively exploit the situation for profit.

kildare lad

A white person successfully sued the Met for discrimination due to his skin colour stopping him from becoming a policeman .

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-white-heterosexual-male-discrimination-job-cheshire-matthew-furlong-a8793331.html

A police force accused of rejecting a potential recruit because he is a white heterosexual male has been found guilty of discrimination in a landmark employment case.

Matthew Furlong applied to join Cheshire Police in 2017 and was told at the interview “it was refreshing to meet someone as well prepared as yourself” and that he “could not have done any more”.

But he was later told he had lost out to other candidates, leading his father – a detective inspector on the force – to lodge a complaint.

An employment tribunal found Cheshire Police had discriminated against the 25-year-old on the grounds of sexual orientation, race and sex. It ruled that the constabulary used positive action – where employers take steps to boost the diversity of their workforce – in a discriminatory way.

Jennifer Ainscough, an employment specialist at Slater and Gordon, said: “Matthew was denied his dream job simply because he was a white, heterosexual male.

“Had he not been such an exceptional candidate he may not even have suspected anything was wrong and this unlawful and unacceptable selection process may have been allowed to continue.

“Positive action is an important tool to support a diverse workforce that reflects the community in which we live.

EnzoScifo

EnzoScifo wrote: »

It is indeed yes. Europeans went to these countries and promoted minority positive discrimination in high end jobs, civil service and ownership of natural resources.

Having a few jobs in the bbc for minorities shouldn't be an issue, but white nativists are so insecure it's an outrage.

You keep using the word “Europeans” as equivalent to colonialist here. And that’s deliberate of course.

Firstly let’s congratulate you on being honest. You want to discriminate against “white” or European people. You don’t deny this. It’s clearly also a revenge play.

Bad enough as this in say Britain (where there are multiple white ethnic groups) when applied to non colonising countries it’s just a clearly anti European measure.

If it comes here, as it will, we will have reverted ho the 19C of discrimination of the Irish ethnic groups (and other whites).

suicide_circus

km991148 wrote: »

Yeah, but it's not allowed over here. I don't think you can be a daily mail reader and claim to care about racism or discrimination. They actively exploit the situation for profit.

I read articles from a wide range of sources. Who actually sits down and reads a single newspaper these days honest to god.

km991148

km991148 wrote: »

And the more they are allowed to profit from organisations such as the DM the more that it will continue.

If you read that rag you are directly ensuring that the system continues as-is.

They are completely taking the piss. If I were a DM customer, I'd be fuming at that more than some internship in Glasgow.

Why do you think the DM represent the British elites? About .15% of the British population were slave holders, A small as a percentages that is, their descendants would be about 100,000 people today. Clearly, most politicians, left and right, most journalists, left and right, and most TV producers etc.

Let’s get rid of them

Dyr

Shield wrote: »

Fact check: they said it:

“Last night, the BBC would not disclose how many training roles were similarly advertised, but a spokesman said: 'The BBC is a welcoming, inclusive organisation committed to representing and reflecting our audiences. We support a scheme organised by Creative Access, an independent organisation dedicated to increasing diversity in the creative industries, which provides development roles, fully in line with the Equality Act.”

So they support a race-based hiring scheme.

44 Nations in Europe, 24 official languages, god knows how many ethnicities but we all know that's not really what "diverse" means

dubrov

Wealthier upbringing -> Better Opportunities and Education -> Better candidate for the job -> Gets job -> Wealthier upbringing for kids.
Then rinse repeat.

Without positive discrimination, I don't see how you can break the cycle to make a fairer society long term