clarkson's Farm

DBK1

DBK1 wrote: »

Thanks. I’ll try that.

Just remember to cancel before you are charged.

The other reason someone like Clarkson would buy land like this is the image of being the country gent/ lord of the Manor, swanning around in a rangerover, while still being able to be in London in a hour and a bit when they fancy it.

afatbollix

Deleted User wrote: »

Just remember to cancel before you are charged.

The other reason someone like Clarkson would buy land like this is the image of being the country gent/ lord of the Manor, swanning around in a rangerover, while still being able to be in London in a hour and a bit when they fancy it.

Spot on, Chipping Norton is renowned for that. They even have a name

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chipping_Norton_set

David Cameron and newspaper editors all live around there.

wicklow_hunter

Great show, I would of thought the purchase of farm is to transfer wealth also to the next generation as ppl have said on here. Another example of this that springs to mind is James Dyson. The guy is hoovering up land in the uk and is 1 of the biggest land owners in county. Fair play to him very humble beginnings

wrangler

DBK1 wrote: »

Is there a way of watching it without Amazon prime?

We're overdosing on it at the moment, watching 2 hrs at a time.
Its very good, most enjoyable. Kaleb is good crack, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw more of him.
We took advantage of the seven day free trial

It’s excellent entertainment but does nicely highlight some challenging aspects of farm life, albeit at a high level. He is after all a journalist so you’d expect that enquiring mind.
What I think he does very well is respect the craft of his farming professionals working along side him- especially the shepherd . I take my hat off to him from that aspect.

John_Rambo

My 8 year old boy is glued to this, language, blood, death & all.... He loves it. He grew up on Tractor Ted DVD's when he was much younger and we're surprised at how much he remembers from them to make the correlations regarding sheep & tillage.

He happily bailed in to a load of BBQ'd lamb chops this evening though!!

Good neeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwsssssssssss.........

Second season confirmed

edward901

Is there any chance that this programe will be broadcast on some of the regular channels?BBC,ITV or Sky or even RTÉ....

Bandana boy

edward901 wrote: »

Is there any chance that this programe will be broadcast on some of the regular channels?BBC,ITV or Sky or even RTÉ....

Not really any chance of that , you might be able to buy the tv show as a one off stream or on dvd release , but amazon keep their originals , particularly when they do well .

Dinzee Conlee

edward901 wrote: »

Is there any chance that this programe will be broadcast on some of the regular channels?BBC,ITV or Sky or even RTÉ....

easy enough to get a free 30 day trial of prime, watch them and then cancel.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Good neeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwsssssssssss.........

Second season confirmed

Clarkson tweeted yesterday, apparently the announcement of a second series is "fake news", but "we are hopeful".

wrangler

Deleted User wrote: »

Clarkson tweeted yesterday, apparently the announcement of a second series is "fake news", but "we are hopeful".

It does get tiresome after a while

CoBo55

wrangler wrote: »

It does get tiresome after a while

Twitter?
You're right there!!

wrangler

wrangler wrote: »

It does get tiresome after a while

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Mimon

K.G. wrote: »

If this keeps up We could be looking for the land league back

People buying land legitimately and using it as they wish has zero parallels with the reasons that a land league was needed.

Lano Lynn

i have not seen any of the programme and would not be a big clarkson fan but it would appear he has opened a lot of peoples eyes about a lot of what farming is going through.

the history of 'big money' buying farmland really goes back to the reign of king George III (farmer George) when with the industrial revoulution the nouveau riche acquired estates as status symbols, the land was tenanted on three generation leases which resulted in a very stable rural model.
Thatcher dumped that model and brought in short term farm business tenancies which led to large investment companies and high income individuals buying farms and using them to store wealth (rents have gone up) and as tax dodges.

The scale seems to amaze us over here (clarksons is 1000acres)
The funny thing is exactly the same thing is happening here and no one says a thing O'leary bought another farm in the last month, there are two 150+acre farms within this parish that have been bought by overseas investors in the recent past, one leased out the other a vanity project (swallowing money)
and how many of us know of another 'farm' albeit 25ac bought by a retired garda or solicitor et al just to get planning permission for a rural mansion with highland cattle and a pony for authenticity?

In reality the vast majority of farms are contributing less and less income, as off farm incomes increases and with the new CAP instead of thinking in terms of average industrial wage vs farm subsidies it is going to be more like comparing social welfare vs farm subsidies.

As working from home online increases well paid professionals will drive up land prices and some will return to their roots and partake in farming often spending serious money on stock, machinery and buildings to offset tax /depreciation helping to prolong the illusion that all is well in rural ireland and the origin green fairy tale is real

so as disagreeable as jeremy may be he does give credit to those who actually Farm and recognise that it takes skill and real grit to actually make a farm work

wrangler

Lano Lynn wrote: »

i have not seen any of the programme and would not be a big clarkson fan but it would appear he has opened a lot of peoples eyes about a lot of what farming is going through.

the history of 'big money' buying farmland really goes back to the reign of king George III (farmer George) when with the industrial revoulution the nouveau riche acquired estates as status symbols, the land was tenanted on three generation leases which resulted in a very stable rural model.
Thatcher dumped that model and brought in short term farm business tenancies which led to large investment companies and high income individuals buying farms and using them to store wealth (rents have gone up) and as tax dodges.

The scale seems to amaze us over here (clarksons is 1000acres)
The funny thing is exactly the same thing is happening here and no one says a thing O'leary bought another farm in the last month, there are two 150+acre farms within this parish that have been bought by overseas investors in the recent past, one leased out the other a vanity project (swallowing money)
and how many of us know of another 'farm' albeit 25ac bought by a retired garda or solicitor et al just to get planning permission for a rural mansion with highland cattle and a pony for authenticity?

In reality the vast majority of farms are contributing less and less income, as off farm incomes increases and with the new CAP instead of thinking in terms of average industrial wage vs farm subsidies it is going to be more like comparing social welfare vs farm subsidies.

As working from home online increases well paid professionals will drive up land prices and some will return to their roots and partake in farming often spending serious money on stock, machinery and buildings to offset tax /depreciation helping to prolong the illusion that all is well in rural ireland and the origin green fairy tale is real

so as disagreeable as jeremy may be he does give credit to those who actually Farm and recognise that it takes skill and real grit to actually make a farm work

I'm just after watching the last episode, where he clears £144 profit on 1000 and he does give farmers credif for what they do.
We're becoming a victim our own success regarding tax concessions, People are spending on land now as it's one of the most tax efficient ways of transferring wealth to the next generation

handlemaster

Its pure entertainment only where one wealthy man throws money at issues doesnt deal with real farming issues where real decisions have to be made.

leoch

Watched it yesterday first time aswell its good but most of it is set up .....very fine place and endless amount of money to fire at it.....very kind of top gearesque.....but very enjoyable and the land is just to die for

wrangler

leoch wrote: »

Watched it yesterday first time aswell its good but most of it is set up .....very fine place and endless amount of money to fire at it.....very kind of top gearesque.....but very enjoyable and the land is just to die for

Watching last episode yesterday I was fascinated by his cars, an off road raised mercedes SL and an off road Bentley..... more toys for him

wrangler

wrangler wrote: »

Watching last episode yesterday I was fascinated by his cars, an off road raised mercedes SL and an off road Bentley..... more toys for him

The Bentley was a car he had on Top Gear, not sure about the Merc

handlemaster

The end figures saying 144 pounds made is miss leading.

No mention of shop figures
No mention of government payments
No mention of the fact he employed people others wouldn't have done or needed to do.

What of the payments from amazon. Alots of farms have supplementary income and this is one of them here.

All pie in the sky stuff

K.G.

Mimon wrote: »

People buying land legitimately and using it as they wish has zero parallels with the reasons that a land league was needed.

That is true but the problem seems to be that incentives put in place to facilitate farm continuity are being used as tax planning and wealth transfer

CoBo55

handlemaster wrote: »

The end figures saying 144 pounds made is miss leading.

No mention of shop figures
No mention of government payments
No mention of the fact he employed people others wouldn't have done or needed to do.

What of the payments from amazon. Alots of farms have supplementary income and this is one of them here.

All pie in the sky stuff

No it isn't, he said himself if I didn't have Amazon and millionaire behind me I would be in trouble. His next question was, what are ordinary farmers going to do in the future when all the payments dry up? I enjoyed it and I think Clarkson did too.

handlemaster

CoBo55 wrote: »

No it isn't, he said himself if I didn't have Amazon and millionaire behind me I would be in trouble. His next question was, what are ordinary farmers going to do in the future when all the payments dry up? I enjoyed it and I think Clarkson did too.

I'm glad you agree with me.

wrangler

CoBo55 wrote: »

No it isn't, he said himself if I didn't have Amazon and millionaire behind me I would be in trouble. His next question was, what are ordinary farmers going to do in the future when all the payments dry up? I enjoyed it and I think Clarkson did too.

He was very upfront about the whole thing.......... or so it seemed to me

On episode 3. The kids are enjoying it

wrangler

wrangler wrote: »

He was very upfront about the whole thing.......... or so it seemed to me

He absolutely was. He never once tried to make this show something that it wasn’t. There are many who wish that he had, so that they could pull him down. I remember him saying early on that he wondered what farmers did when they couldn’t go an host Who Wants to be a Millionaire in the evenings

crazy 88

handlemaster wrote: »

The end figures saying 144 pounds made is miss leading.

No mention of shop figures
No mention of government payments
No mention of the fact he employed people others wouldn't have done or needed to do.

What of the payments from amazon. Alots of farms have supplementary income and this is one of them here.

All pie in the sky stuff

You clearly zoned out or didn't watch that part properly at all

crazy 88

leoch wrote: »

Watched it yesterday first time aswell its good but most of it is set up .....very fine place and endless amount of money to fire at it.....very kind of top gearesque.....but very enjoyable and the land is just to die for

Some minor parts were probably setup like Kaleb going to London but I don't think most of it was like TG or GT. He gets genuinely pissed off and angry in some parts and you couldn't really set up the wet/dry weather that caused havoc with the crops.

straight

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He absolutely was. He never once tried to make this show something that it wasn’t. There are many who wish that he had, so that they could pull him down. I remember him saying early on that he wondered what farmers did when they couldn’t go an host Who Wants to be a Millionaire in the evenings

I think Charlies (think this was his name) answer was there will be a sea change and 30% less farmers.

locha

Thought it was pretty good. The standpoint moment was getting his accounts done and T/O down £90k year on year - same amount of land planted but variance down to seasonality- price and weather. That’s a good education for the non farmers of what it’s like.

Say my name

K.G. wrote: »

That is true but the problem seems to be that incentives put in place to facilitate farm continuity are being used as tax planning and wealth transfer

The UK are what's ahead of us. Just further down the road.
Cos they didn't bring in a new state and set up a land commission to divide up thousand acre estates.
We'll be back to the land situation in this country as
1916 in 2116. Just different surname owners.

Unless something radical is proposed by government. Which face it can happen as evident by our European neighbours.
Even southern hemisphere countries set their own rules slowing down foreign investors buying large land tracts accumulated by nationals.
The free rule of ownership won't continue in this country forever as logic would have it bigger getting bigger continuously and corporate ownership used to keep tax down and the same as the southern hemisphere foreign interests buying for food security or even now carbon subsidies.
At some point the government will be forced to have their governance on the land in this country if what they see isn't in their ladybook copy of farm and land and food producers.

CoBo55

Say my name wrote: »

The UK are what's ahead of us. Just further down the road.
Cos they didn't bring in a new state and set up a land commission to divide up thousand acre estates.
We'll be back to the land situation in this country as
1916 in 2116. Just different surname owners.

Unless something radical is proposed by government. Which face it can happen as evident by our European neighbours.
Even southern hemisphere countries set their own rules slowing down foreign investors buying large land tracts accumulated by nationals.
The free rule of ownership won't continue in this country forever as logic would have it bigger getting bigger continuously and corporate ownership used to keep tax down and the same as the southern hemisphere foreign interests buying for food security or even now carbon subsidies.
At some point the government will be forced to have their governance on the land in this country if what they see isn't in their ladybook copy of farm and land and food producers.

Sorry but I haven't a clue what you're on about.
I don't think it has anything to do with Clarksons farm anyway.

Hard Knocks

Say my name wrote: »

The UK are what's ahead of us. Just further down the road.
Cos they didn't bring in a new state and set up a land commission to divide up thousand acre estates.
We'll be back to the land situation in this country as
1916 in 2116. Just different surname owners.

Unless something radical is proposed by government. Which face it can happen as evident by our European neighbours.
Even southern hemisphere countries set their own rules slowing down foreign investors buying large land tracts accumulated by nationals.
The free rule of ownership won't continue in this country forever as logic would have it bigger getting bigger continuously and corporate ownership used to keep tax down and the same as the southern hemisphere foreign interests buying for food security or even now carbon subsidies.
At some point the government will be forced to have their governance on the land in this country if what they see isn't in their ladybook copy of farm and land and food producers.

Will we have a Government brave enough
Even at the moment they’re afraid to step up

Say my name

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Will we have a Government brave enough
Even at the moment they’re afraid to step up

It'll happen sometime.
Orders on derelict houses were brought in when a problem was perceived.
It's only when it's a considered problem that any government worldwide takes action.

CoBo55

What are ye on about lads? Did I have a petit mal seizure or something?

FileNotFound

What a great show this was. Truly enjoyed it.

Not sure if there will be another season.

Kaleb was great watching.. Better than Clarkson.

CoBo55

CoBo55 wrote: »

What are ye on about lads? Did I have a petit mal seizure or something?

The development of a modern form of landlordism where wealthy individuals are buying large tracts of land, pricing out us little people. Clarkson for example has 1,000 acres, Dyson has I believe something like 25k acres (correct me if I'm wrong) and so forth. That mass accumulation of land by private individuals will only increase.

Say my name

CoBo55 wrote: »

What are ye on about lads? Did I have a petit mal seizure or something?

A television presenter buying a thousand acres and playing farmer for another television show production.
It's discussed all through the thread.

dulpit

Is he still farming it now I wonder? Or is his hands on element dependent on the TV show? The way he was speaking on show suggested that he'll do it even if there's no show, I guess maybe not as full time though?

FileNotFound

dulpit wrote: »

Is he still farming it now I wonder? Or is his hands on element dependent on the TV show? The way he was speaking on show suggested that he'll do it even if there's no show, I guess maybe not as full time though?

Will most likely depend on what tv stuff he gets this year. Grand tour etc.

If none of that really happening he might go again id say.

FileNotFound

FileNotFound wrote: »

Will most likely depend on what tv stuff he gets this year. Grand tour etc.

If none of that really happening he might go again id say.

He's made the most of the opportunity to be fair to him, Covid would have spoiled a lot of other projects.

Say my name

[Deleted User] wrote: »

He's made the most of the opportunity to be fair to him, Covid would have spoiled a lot of other projects.

I go as far as it was Covid that allowed the production go ahead.
They say it was in the pipeline for a few years but as you say everything else had to be shelved whereas this on one set in the country with the few in it could go ahead as farming did.

They're spoiling us will there won't there be another one in public but that's just Clarkson bartering his price in public.

Say my name

Say my name wrote: »

I go as far as it was Covid that allowed the production go ahead.
They say it was in the pipeline for a few years but as you say everything else had to be shelved whereas this on one set in the country with the few in it could go ahead as farming did.

They're spoiling us will there won't there be another one in public but that's just Clarkson bartering his price in public.

It was the best TV I've watched in a long time. He could save a lot of money doing things differently but it wouldn't be popular to talk about that outside of hippie safe spaces

CoBo55

Say my name wrote: »

A television presenter buying a thousand acres and playing farmer for another television show production.
It's discussed all through the thread.

That's completely untrue, did you watch the show?
He specifically states he bought the complete farm in 2008 and was being worked by a farm manager who retired, he then had to make the decision what to do next so he decided to try and farm it himself, which is what he did.

CoBo55

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The development of a modern form of landlordism where wealthy individuals are buying large tracts of land, pricing out us little people. Clarkson for example has 1,000 acres, Dyson has I believe something like 25k acres (correct me if I'm wrong) and so forth. That mass accumulation of land by private individuals will only increase.

Us little people....
How much land have you got?
If you want more land go to the bank and start buying, gotta speculate to accumulate.

Bullocks

CoBo55 wrote: »

Us little people....
How much land have you got?
If you want more land go to the bank and start buying, gotta speculate to accumulate.

You're mad if you think the bank is throwing out money to just anyone to speculate on agricultural land

Say my name

CoBo55 wrote: »

That's completely untrue, did you watch the show?
He specifically states he bought the complete farm in 2008 and was being worked by a farm manager who retired, he then had to make the decision what to do next so he decided to try and farm it himself, which is what he did.

What's his main income?
How did he buy the farm?
Why did he make the Amazon program?
What part was untrue?

He's a television presenter first and foremost. He knows how to make money. His instinct was correct in this too. Another hit.
More power to him.

Bullocks

Say my name wrote: »

What's his main income?
How did he buy the farm?
Why did he make the Amazon program?
What part was untrue?

He's a television presenter first and foremost. He knows how to make money. His instinct was correct in this too. Another hit.
More power to him.

I'd agree with all that. He is living the dream really.
I reckon that show will open up more people's eyes about the troubles and joys of farming than alot of other farming shows. Even if parts are a bit more Top Gear than Ear to the Ground he still didn't hide the ugly bits.
Anyone know what he paid for the farm back in 2008? Great time to have money....