Converting van to camper vrt

micah537

If you convert an Irish registered van to a camper, and want to change the logbook to a camper, how is VRT calculated? Is it the value of the van or value of a camper.

Do you need to pay NOX?

Van in question is 2015 Ducato 3.0 and 15cubic metres.

Shoog

Its the final value of the converted van minus the original VRT that was paid on the van (usually €50.00). The rate on Campers is 13% of assessed value. You can pay it and appeal if it seems unreasonable - but they seem to be more reasonable than historically now.
Example: assessed value €10K, VRT (1300 - 50), €1250 due.

Shoog

Car99

micah537 wrote: »

If you convert an Irish registered van to a camper, and want to change the logbook to a camper, how is VRT calculated? Is it the value of the van or value of a camper.

Do you need to pay NOX?

Van in question is 2015 Ducato 3.0 and 15cubic metres.

Sry to hijack your thread but who assesses if a van is now up to camper spec for insurance and vrt purposes? Is there a list of minimum specs to get camper on the logbook?

Shoog

There are minimum legal requirements which are quite easy to forfill, but then there is the requirements of any insurance companies on top of that - which maybe much harder to meet.

The Legal requirement is laid out in EU law and includes:
Must have a bed
Must have a table (can be a fold away camp table but must fit in the back in a usable way)
Must have a cooker
Must have rear seating
Must have windows in the back
Must have a sink

The Insurance requirements will be:
Provide an engineers report which will demonstrate;
-Meets all minimal legal requirements to qualify as a camper
-Gas fitting is safe and certified by a registered fitter
-possibly the same for electrics if you install 240V
-any rear seats are either not for travel use or are certified safe for travel use
-must have access from front to back of van
-must have at least 1.8M internal height
-there maybe other requirement and they may wave any of the above at their own discretion

Hope that gets you started, but there are online guides to the specific legal requirements as set out in Irish law.

Shoog

Calahonda52

Shoog wrote: »

There are minimum legal requirements which are quite easy to forfill, but then there is the requirements of any insurance companies on top of that - which maybe much harder to meet.

The Legal requirement is laid out in EU law and includes:
Must have a bed
Must have a table (can be a fold away camp table but must fit in the back in a usable way)
Must have a cooker
Must have rear seating
Must have windows in the back
Must have a sink

The Insurance requirements will be:
Provide an engineers report which will demonstrate;
-Meets all minimal legal requirements to qualify as a camper
-Gas fitting is safe and certified by a registered fitter
-possibly the same for electrics if you install 240V
-any rear seats are either not for travel use or are certified safe for travel use
-must have access from front to back of van
-must have at least 1.8M internal height
-there maybe other requirement and they may wave any of the above at their own discretion

Hope that gets you started, but there are online guides to the specific legal requirements as set out in Irish law.

Shoog

Shoog,
Thanks for this.
Coming at it the other way, what item(s) move the classification from commercial to camper van?
So if you leave the bulkhead in and just throw a bed in the back and so on, where is the "event horizon" ?

Shoog

I think you have problems if you put a window in the back, but you will already have the problem of inappropriate usage if you use a commercial as a camper. You would need to have a legitimate business reason for using your commercial as a camper which might be difficult to get past your insurance company. You can always go ahead and do it anyway, but you may have invalidated or compromised your insurance cover.

Shoog