UEFA refuse to sanction illuminating Munich Stadium in rainbow colours

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

TomTomTim wrote: »

Yes, kink belongs at Pride. And I want my kids to see it.


Articles like this certainly don't help the "it's just about equality" argument. When mindsets like this exist in your movement, can you really blame the likes of Hungary for being cautious?

Back up a bit there - no one in Uefa or Germany is talking about kink.

TomTomTim

TomTomTim wrote: »

Yes, kink belongs at Pride. And I want my kids to see it.


Articles like this certainly don't help the "it's just about equality" argument. When mindsets like this exist in your movement, can you really blame the likes of Hungary for being cautious?

This is more seeming like an effort on your part to justify homophobic laws.

TomTomTim

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Back up a bit there - no one in Uefa or Germany is talking about kink.

I never said anything as such. Hungary's policy is what sparked all of this, hence the mention of Hungary. I think you know that though, you're just deflecting.

Deleted User wrote: »

This is more seeming like an effort on your part to justify homophobic laws.

Nope. Many people keep arguing that it's about equality alone, and has little do to with politics. I'm simply highlighting that it's not simple just a matter of equality, and that people have just reason to be cautious about teaching LGBT based stuff to children.

Very interesting though, that none of the responders see any issue with the article posted, even though this stuff is on the border of paedophilia. This was considered a reasonable article by both the writer and the editor, and the fact that you find more issue with my intent than the article itself, says such much.

TomTomTim

TomTomTim wrote: »

I never said anything as such. Hungary's policy is what sparked all of this, hence the mention of Hungary. I think you know that though, you're just deflecting.



Nope. Many people keep arguing that it's about equality alone, and has little do to with politics. I'm simply highlighting that it's not simple just a matter of equality, and that people have just reason to be cautious about teaching LGBT based stuff to children.

Very interesting though, that none of the responders see any issue with the article posted, even though this stuff is on the border of paedophilia. This was considered a reasonable article by both the writer and the editor, and the fact that you find more issue with my intent than the article itself, says such much.

I've read the article and can you point me to where it bordered on pro paedophilia? The author who is voicing their opinion argues that it illustrates how diverse the LGBT community is and they view it as good for children to know that the community is accepting etc. But it's far from horrifying as an article. I've been to pride in Dublin. I'm sure kink was present but it honestly didn't even register.

On top of that, Hungary and Russia just wanted to hide homosexuality and create a culture of intolerance around the LGBT community. It's literally ****ing over an entire generation of youths with fear and paranoia created by the state. Nothing to do with protecting the youth and more likely to severely damage their mental health and wellbeing.

Faugheen

Deleted User wrote: »

I've read the article and can you point me to where it bordered on pro paedophilia? The author who is voicing their opinion argues that it illustrates how diverse the LGBT community is and they view it as good for children to know that the community is accepting etc. But it's far from horrifying as an article. I've been to pride in Dublin. I'm sure kink was present but it honestly didn't even register.

On top of that, Hungary and Russia just wanted to hide homosexuality and create a culture of intolerance around the LGBT community. It's literally ****ing over an entire generation of youths with fear and paranoia created by the state. Nothing to do with protecting the youth and more likely to severely damage their mental health and wellbeing.

but but kink and leather.

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TomTomTim wrote: »

Yes, kink belongs at Pride. And I want my kids to see it.


Articles like this certainly don't help the "it's just about equality" argument. When mindsets like this exist in your movement, can you really blame the likes of Hungary for being cautious?

TBH all of this kicked off because of the Mayor of Munich's fury about the Hungarians. Now there is little positive about what Hungary does these days but that fight is not UEFA's.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

TomTomTim wrote: »

I never said anything as such. Hungary's policy is what sparked all of this, hence the mention of Hungary. I think you know that though, you're just deflecting.



Nope. Many people keep arguing that it's about equality alone, and has little do to with politics. I'm simply highlighting that it's not simple just a matter of equality, and that people have just reason to be cautious about teaching LGBT based stuff to children.

Very interesting though, that none of the responders see any issue with the article posted, even though this stuff is on the border of paedophilia. This was considered a reasonable article by both the writer and the editor, and the fact that you find more issue with my intent than the article itself, says such much.

We didn't read it because you just lonk-dumped the article with no reference or personal comment. Usual means YOU never read it either.

And kink is nothing to do with the issue. Straight people enjoy kink. Gay people enjoy kink. There. Equality.

Now if your argument is 'kids' then everyone will get into trouble if they involve kids, Gay or straight. Equlity again.

Its about showing support for equal.human rights for a marginalised minority group who are frequently attacked and denied said rights.