Newstalk: Off The Ball

Jayesdiem · 09-01-2022 9:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443614#Comment_118443614

Turned it straight off, like in six seconds. Im sure it involved her pontificating about Covid rules.

siblers · 09-01-2022 9:26pm

It was no worse than the Saturday show with John Duggan or listening to Ritchie during the week. OTB is a shadow of its former self

Jayesdiem · 09-01-2022 10:33pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118446409#Comment_118446409

When Duggan asked Pillar Caffrey who’d win the women’s Six Nations, with no hint of irony in his voice, this became very obvious.

gluppers · 10-01-2022 2:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118445528#Comment_118445528

This! Those golf Tw*ts are probably off, well playing golf

10-01-2022 6:32am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118443645#Comment_118443645

Like clockwork. What I want to know is, when is Nollaig na Fir?

Mr Burny · 10-01-2022 6:53am

Ger Gilroy won’t enjoy eating his piss soaked cornflakes this morning over the Novak outcome !

DeadHand · 10-01-2022 7:50am

I usually have a long drive on Sunday evenings and will turn on the match on Newstalk to help pass the time.

I switched on yesterday.

A woman was effusive in her praise of Kilmallock hurling in particular and Limerick hurling in general on foot of what she believed was a fine victory for that club.

Kilmallock had just gone down 3-20 to 1-12 to Ballygunner of Waterford.

The apparent expert that was on with her didn't seem to be willing to correct the mistake, so they continued to exchange bland clichés over a false premise.

I switched over to some music.

Tell me how · 10-01-2022 2:27pm

Lads ye should be either ashamed, or embarrassed of yourselves with the reaction to hearing women on the radio.

Hope none of you had young daughters on hand to watch the mental breakdown and misogyny when you realised what was happening. Like a scene out of Fr Ted or Killinaskully.

Faugheen · 10-01-2022 3:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118445528#Comment_118445528

Yep. The lovely girdles are too thick to realise. Always the way. 🙄

Someone said earlier that this is embarrassing for the brand. I would bet both my bollocks that some of the heads in Off The Ball were reading this yesterday and pissing themselves laughing at how triggered everyone got.

There's something embarrassing about this alright, and it isn't the women or the brand.

DeadHand · 10-01-2022 4:05pm

No mental breakdown necessary, just a change of station.

My young daughter was on hand, as it happened. She also it found it an unwelcome break from our usual Sunday evening fare.

Radio can be poor, not everything is misogyny.

Jayesdiem · 10-01-2022 6:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118449679#Comment_118449679

Better late than never I suppose. Did you listen to it? It was utter garbage. There is a real “emperor has no clothes” feel about asking Pilar f’ing Caffrey and golfer Gary f’ing Murphy who will win the women’s six nations. I’m primarily a rugby fan myself and I wouldn’t have given much better of an answer than those that they embarrassingly muttered. Any idea who the favourite for this season’s Peruvian tiddlywinks division 1A? I thought not.

hawley · 10-01-2022 7:44pm

They really hate Djokovic. He's a right wing icon, tax dodger, should be calling attention to Australia's asylum policy etc. according to the guest

Tell me how · 10-01-2022 8:27pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451309#Comment_118451309

I didn't hear that particular piece but have heard MTNC several times and she is more than capable of holding an interview. I did hear the girl who was on the week before and she did very well and showed a very good grasp both of the topic and the people she was talking to in the amount I heard.

I'd be willing to bet that if we heard the full interview, there'd be some context as to why Caffrey was asked that question rather than it being something out of the blue.

All the time interview hosts ask questions that are a bit out of place or non-sequiturs, it doesn't usually result in people running to a message board to say how they couldn't handle it and needed a safe space.

Jayesdiem · 10-01-2022 9:37pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118451909#Comment_118451909

I’ll give you the context: OTB can’t ask a question about the Ireland men’s national team without equalising that with the same question about the women’s team or else people such as yourself start playing the misogyny card. Because the men’s team are pretty much mainstream, guests can hold a conversation on that topic. The women’s team are no more recognisable than the Jamaican bobsleigh team in our country and I’m sorry but it’s not me who decides that, it’s market forces. It’s therefore not fair to press your agenda on guests when they don’t know the team from Adam. It looks and sounds bad. I’ve been in Twickenham when the England women’s team came on to play AFTER the men’s team. Suddenly an 82,000 crowd became about 2,000. I suppose there were 80,000 misogynists in Twickenham that day, ironically, almost 50% of them female.

RugbyLover123 · 10-01-2022 10:22pm

What’s the story with there being nearly more female pundits than male for the rugby shows?

also is Johnny Wards contribution to the Saturday show that pivotal that they needed to wire him in from what sounded like a submarine.

Pussyhands · 10-01-2022 10:23pm

There was an American lady and then some Irish guy, not sure if he was part of the news team as Joe asked him about the Villa - Utd match, but my god....the wankfest they had over hating Djokovic.

American lady said there was a non zero chance of the australians invading the court and dismembering Djokovic. Disgusting comment.

"If Djokovic gets some sleep and gets some practice in, is he your favourite to win the tournament?" Joe questions his guest.

"I would never use that word with Djokovic" she replies. Not resisting any opportunity to get a dig in and to let everyone know she hates Djokovic and his pro choice opinion.

She ends with an impression of Rafa Nadal, quoting him about needing to take the vaccine.

Joe also raised the possibility, albeit while covering his own arse legally, that Djokovic faked his positive covid test.

Once the American anti-choice lady was gone, the boring Irish guy went on a drone about how the Djokovic supporters don't actually support him and are just going against the grain and that it's quite sad they don't have convictions of their own thoughts....he says while parroting populist opinions that will get people to agree with him....he finishes "they won't like that!", as his tone clearly shows it's eating him up inside that Djokovic won his appeal and has been allowed in.

Then the rugby topic comes on, Gerry Thornley knowledgable but the lady hadn't a clue. Answering questions with "yeah...no" is shocking for a pundit. "And what do you hear about goings on at Munster" Joe asks...."Yeah I wouldn't really know anything about that".....great stuff! The constant sound of sucking in air was very annoying also.

And for gods sake, can people phoning in not get a headset rather than being on a national radio station with horrible sound quality?

Jayesdiem · 10-01-2022 10:39pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452747#Comment_118452747

Look out for the sharp intakes of breath by Niamh Briggs too. Very annoying.

Mr Burny · 10-01-2022 10:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452744#Comment_118452744

Suits the ultra-woke agenda

Tell me how · 10-01-2022 11:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452437#Comment_118452437

A take that's so wide of the mark it is nearly, but not quite, impressive.

A couple of things. 1 the mens team being more successful has nothing to do with whether or not the womens should be discussed. 2 Since when is asking someone a question 'pressing your guest'? 3 Stop creating a strawman so that you can get your rocks off thinking you've beaten the sh*t out of it, the only reference to misogyny here was to do with the content put on this thread over the last 36 hours by people who couldn't handle that women were on the radio. 4 It's laughable to talk about market forces when one gender has literally had decades more and millions more poured in to it than the other. they'll probably never be equal in the truest sense, but if womens sport stands any chance of being successful, it needs coverage to allow it to nurture and flourish. Should all AIL clubs stop making efforts to grow the sport because they are much less well supported than the provinces? Should the League of Ireland be disbanded because it pales in to insignificance compared to European leagues? The idea that market forces dictate something when 50% of the market is a particular gender is just all sorts of idiotic.

Mr Burny · 10-01-2022 11:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453086#Comment_118453086

ya…..

Jayesdiem · 10-01-2022 11:46pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453038#Comment_118453038

Double yawn. Your answer is all kinds of sh1t soup, a Frankenstein reply with all your best bits sewn crudely together into some grotesque incoherent mess. I might give a more specific response some other time, or if I can be @rsed to pick it apart. It would be so facile, it’s barely worth it.

Faugheen · 10-01-2022 11:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453061#Comment_118453061

Bit much from the fella whose vocabulary extends to 'woke'.

Tell me how · 10-01-2022 11:50pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453194#Comment_118453194

I figured you'd struggle so I numbered the points specifically to help you.

Take your time, a good nights sleep will probably help get your head around it.

Mr Burny · 10-01-2022 11:54pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453199#Comment_118453199

Bit much from the fella whose vocabulary extends to 'triggered'.

RINO87 · 11-01-2022 12:41am

.... wasn't last Sunday's (Jan 2nd) show presented by "the wimmin" as well? Why no outcry then?

11-01-2022 6:47am

Thread was quiet for months and it only took the wimmin for the creatures to emerge from under their rocks! Hope ye are all ok lads. Hugs.

Mr Burny · 11-01-2022 7:10am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453629#Comment_118453629

Hi hun ! Hope ya doin’ ok !

Dr Fred · 11-01-2022 7:12am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453629#Comment_118453629

Aw! And I thought you’d be happy with a nice opportunity for a bit of virtue signalling !

Faugheen · 11-01-2022 11:31am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453228#Comment_118453228

“I know you are, but what am I?”

Faugheen · 11-01-2022 12:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453648#Comment_118453648

What does virtue signalling mean?

Mr Burny · 11-01-2022 12:58pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118454858#Comment_118454858

What do you think it means?

Faugheen · 11-01-2022 1:05pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118455068#Comment_118455068

Why do you think I asked you?

Or are you one of those who uses these buzzwords and you’ve no idea what they mean?

Mr Burny · 11-01-2022 1:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118455119#Comment_118455119

Are you?

Pussyhands · 11-01-2022 1:19pm

Next thing we'll be seeing Ger Gilroy getting a breast augmentation.

Pussyhands · 11-01-2022 1:23pm

In all seriousness though, surely people can't be ok with having women just because they're women.

I think it says a lot that they have these token women hanging off the coat tails of the men. You won't see papers hiring crap women journos for the sake of it because the clicks wouldn't come. But tagging a woman onto a mens show won't affect advertising so they can do it.

Doesn't make for pleasant listening for the audience when they have these token women who are terrible.

Mr Burny · 11-01-2022 1:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118455162#Comment_118455162

challenged?

BringingSexyBack · 11-01-2022 1:59pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118452437#Comment_118452437

I remember that Ireland game lol. RTE even televised the girls game (Think Ireland men got beaten so the mood would not have been great) ! The smarter thing would have been to have the girls play first, with about half hour in between so that the grounds men /women could fix the pitch . Just like the GAA use to hold minor games before the Seniors

From what I recall, the crowd emptied out really quickly. Brian O'Driscoll came out (in his suit) for about twenty minutes to watch the game and fecked off back in for dinner. None of the other players bothered their backside to watch the game from the side lines

Similar thing happened in the ladies GAA All Ireland Semis . The lads u20s All Ireland was held first. They got a big crowd from Roscommon . Emptied out when the girls (Meath) came out . To be fair the girls came was decent

BringingSexyBack · 11-01-2022 2:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118453038#Comment_118453038

Funny enough, neither AIL or the League of Ireland get much coverage on National stations like Newstalk. Next to none in fact unless there is something negative to talk about in the LOI . Bear in mind, in or around 2010s , Newstalk took from RTE Radio (an excellent service on Friday night) the coverage of league of Ireland games. They had their bill boards around many club's grounds. Bar the odd UEFA Cup game, the level of live coverage of said League of Ireland games on their radio station was next to none

So in comparison to two leagues that can still get 1,000 plus PAYING customers (and no discounts) to attend games every weekend, the girls are still getting far more attention on the radio

Jaye's point was the women got a chance to show what their product was worth by having their game held at Twickenham and said game televised. It said a lot that the vast majority of the ground left the stadium immediately after the men's game, knowing well that the girl's game was on next. As he pointed out, and as the cameras showed, a very sizeable proportion of the 80,000 who watched the men's game were women. Even the women couldn't be bothered.

Radio and tv stations are there to make money , by the way. They aren't always going to show any interest in broadcasting events that simply don't attract an audience. RTE barely even bother showing any AIL and LOI games . But for TG4 , things would be worse

LOI have decided to set up their own match day streaming and it apparently is going really well.

Faugheen · 11-01-2022 2:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118455534#Comment_118455534

I only asked you a question, no need to be so rude.

You speaking like that because your description is a little closer to home?

Mr Burny · 11-01-2022 2:28pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118455575#Comment_118455575

I’d venture it’s closer to your home….

Butson · 11-01-2022 2:33pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZG1U9QyGqs

11-01-2022 3:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118455534#Comment_118455534

I'd wager the virginal chaps are the ones on here taking breaks from whatever they get up to in their mother's spare room to gnash their teeth and mash their fists at the keypad over some women on the radio once a year. I'm not sure there's too many other than the angry men of Boards and the concerned citizens to impress on here.

BPKS · 11-01-2022 3:48pm

It would be a better use of people's time to actually help out at female sports - playing, administration, fundraising, coaching etc - rather than going on boards looking for thanks by taking the high moral ground when somebody criticises having female presenters and guests who are poor at their job.

Although it's easier just to go on boards isn't it.

Faugheen · 11-01-2022 3:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456235#Comment_118456235

But it's not just 'criticism', some of the stuff written in this thread is pure hatred, and some of them make it very personal whether it's towards male or female presenters.

As for your little lecture about helping out with female sports, how do you know I and others here don't do that already?

EDIT: Just to add to this, people here wouldn't give a ****. I'm just a 'virginal' chap looking for a sympathy ride going by the logic here. Why should I entertain that bollocks and just chuckle along with it? It's not going to change the minds of some misogynistic scumbags here.

Watch them all reply being all offended and telling me I'm disgraceful for just throwing that phrase about when the most activity in this thread in a while has been about the women being let on the radio and they're trying to fool us and themselves by saying it's nothing to do with the fact it's women on the radio.

People here have said they listened to very little on the show yet seem to know everything about it. They're either bullshitters or they're making assumptions on what the thick girls were saying.

And then some of them are called out on it and they give you troll-y answers and don't even bother their arses to engage.

But yet I'm the one that has to go out and support women's sport?

11-01-2022 3:57pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456235#Comment_118456235

It's pretty easy to come on here moaning about women too, though, isn't it?

Jayesdiem · 11-01-2022 4:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118456265#Comment_118456265

That’s some very strong language there. I can safely say there’s absolutely no “hatred”, as you term it, here. We likely all have wives, girlfriends, sisters, female bosses etc who we hold in the highest esteem. What you are seeing here is annoyance at the show dropping in quality and the presenters of the show repeatedly imposing their social politics on the listenership. By the sounds of it, they’ve done a good job on you. Look at the Djokovic coverage this week. An ugly, grotesque, politically-motivated witch hunt that seeks only to describe the characteristics of a “good person”. Good people vaccinate themselves so Djokovic = bad man. And before you go there, yes, I am vaccinated.