Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938493#Comment_118938493

But posters on here think otherwise

Loafing Oaf

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938487#Comment_118938487

They really did use copies of Pravda in the loo.

An average Soviet citizen having a copy of pravda pressed on him by the local commisar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ce2dfvDIMUk

cnocbui

"Military medic Olena Kushnir has died in Mariupol"

https://en.lb.ua/news/2022/04/17/13243_military_medic_olena_kushnir_has_died.html

Extremely sad. She was a doctor. RIP

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938487#Comment_118938487

I don't disagree. I was merely pointing out the notion that Russia and the USSR were innovation free zones is a nonsense.

zv2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938571#Comment_118938571

A fascinating collection of photos of Russian history here 67 Old Colorized Photos Reveal The Life Of Russian People Between 1900-1965 | Bored Panda

BorneTobyWilde

I thought we lived in a time where wars were waged in text on paper, in legally binding treaties. Why on earth hasn't Nato and Russia, who are suppose to be on the same team, wanting peace, come together and put it down in text that Nato has no intention in attacking Russian, and that security peace and prosperity is the goal.

If this was the 1940's Russia would have been nuked on day 2, yet not one bullet has been fired by the West or Nato at Russian. Does Putin still not get it, that no one has any intention of attacking Russian, and never fcking did.

cnocbui

"Production of Russian air defense systems on pause, factory workers are sent on vacation or to war

📌 The production facilities of the Ulyanovsk Mechanical Plant (JSC UMZ, Ulyanovsk) have actually been stopped. UMZ" is a manufacturer of radars and air defense equipment of the RF Armed Forces (Buk, Kub, Tunguska ZGRK).

📌 The reasons for the critical state of production are the use of a large number of components and electronic components in the manufacture of military products.

According to employees, the plant is not able to continue production on its own.

Currently, the plant's management is looking for opportunities to bypass sanctions and establish supplies through third countries (in particular, Kazakhstan). But such schemes lead to a significant increase in the price of components due to the need to pay for services to intermediary countries.

Employees are given a choice: go on unpaid leave or sign a contract with the armed forces to participate in the war in Ukraine."

Good to see sanctions are working and will eventually have an effect.

Strazdas

Our friend Vladimir Solovyov is not happy about the sinking of the Moskva, strongly blaming the Russian Ministry of Defence today:

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938514#Comment_118938514

And yet watch how the headlines of this conflict and the public interest around it will start to fade remarkably quickly. Covid generated far more public interest and for longer. Hell, even on this site we had an entire forum dedicated to it and a boost in numbers not seen in years. Ukraine gets a couple of threads and maybe twenty posters.

If putin were not waving his nuke threat around is the biggest if involved. It quite simply can't be ignored and he knows it, we know it, or should and he knows we know it. Keyboard warriors can shout for war all they like, one they won't have to fight, but if the nukes start arcing through the air it's game over. This is a 24 carat fact and cooler heads know it.

Europe and the EU have already backed Ukraine's right to exist as an independent state. As have the US, UN and most of the rest of the world, but again cooler heads realise that going in full gung ho is a very dangerous road indeed and one with no roadmap. The stark reality is if a power has nuclear weapons they have to be approached very differently. However they're all ploughing tonnes of cash, arms, intel and support at Ukraine and cash and support for her refugees. Sanctions are ongoing and will grip tighter. Russia and putin have already lost, but Ukraine will lose too and has already lost too much and too many people.

However when the guns fall silent Russia and putin will still be losing, Ukraine will be winning. It's almost certainly going to become an EU member in time and before that time an associate member with a huge chunk of financing and other help aimed their way. Any of Ukraine's political class, coruption and yes right wing shenanigans will have the beady eye pointed at it and that nonsense will not be welcome in the new better Ukraine for Ukrainians that arises from these ashes. If putins BS aim of "denazifying" Ukraine was true, it turns out that by his criminal actions he's assured it, but not in the way he thought and certainly not in the way he wanted. Ukraine will never look north and east again. Russia is stuck in the north and east. Sweden and Finland are likely to join NATO. That's putin's legacy and that legacy will have to be lived by Russians for the foreseeable future.

machiavellianme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938432#Comment_118938432

Henry Round wasn't Russian. Losev implemented a green LED based on Round's theory 20 years later but the red ones invented by the Americans in the 60s were the first useful ones.

josip

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938134#Comment_118938134

People can and do act in hundreds of thousands. France would be a good example of a nation with a history of organised mass protesting.

A closer, albeit not identical, example to Russia would be Serbia in the 90s.

There were constant protests against Milosevic in the 10s of thousands in Belgrade, but these were ignored and never reported on by the state controlled media; the minister of information at the time being none other than Aleksandar Vucic, now Leader for Life in Serbia.

It was only when the numbers reached 200,000 in 1996 that Milosevic came under enough pressure to make some concessions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996%E2%80%931997_protests_in_Serbia

He was finally overthrown in 2000 when between 500,000 and 1 million people marched on the capital.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overthrow_of_Slobodan_Milo%C5%A1evi%C4%87

By then, Milosevic had lost the support of rural Serbia which was his power base for 10 years and who had limited access to outside information.

There are many parallels between Serbia then and Russia now.

Sanctions had a crippling effect on Serbia and still do to this day. Corruption increased massively and people who could source stuff across the borders became important and rich very quickly. The 'work hard and work for each other' socialist ideology of two post war generations went out the window almost overnight and it was everyone for themselves. Those who had connections to the ruling class did well. This had always been the case, ever since WWII, but nearly everyone was a member of the party then, so things were more equal. The sanctions in the 90s meant that a much smaller group of people did well. But sanctions didn't turn the masses against Milosevic; sanctions turned the people against the West.

Bombing Belgrade very effectively stopped the atrocities in Kosovo in 1999. But that didn't turn the masses against Milosevic, bombing turned the people against NATO.

What turned the masses against Milosevic was the clandestine funding by the US of media outlets such as B92 and protest organisations like Otpor (Gotov je) such that a sufficient percentage of the population finally turned against him. Unfortunately for Russia, and as already said by others, Putin has clamped down harder and earlier on any form of protest. There is little chance of the US funding a viable media/protest organisation. There also doesn't seem to the be the same appetite for protesting in Russia as there was in Serbia. Students in many countries are often among the first to protest, but that doesn't seem to be the case in Russia.

I don't see a way out of this for them.

Gatling

Forgot to post this last night.

Let them dezazifiy by themselves

https://twitter.com/anders_aslund/status/1515442615252045825?s=20&t=qTGYDDGxIM1Bv9wC1WOaMw

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938658#Comment_118938658

Few inventions have a single father. However yes Round spotted the phenomenon but devoted little time to it and only mentioned it as an aside in an electrical periodical. Losev put far more effort into it, developed the theory in how the effect works, did years of research into it, published studies on the specific phenomena and considered how it could be used in practical applications. His other experiments into soild state amplification predated the transister by decades. Round was an innovator, but Losev was a far greater one. Indeed part of his problem was that he was living in the Soviet Union and his research wasn't favoured. He'd quite likely have been a more household name if he hadn't been.

Wibbs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938677#Comment_118938677

And in each case the army either stood by the protestors or kept out of their way. Without the military any revolution in Russia is highly unlikely to succeed.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938700#Comment_118938700

Apparently this clip was from a few weeks ago - it got posted all over social media yesterday for some reason.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938571#Comment_118938571

I certainly wasn't saying they were innovation free, but when you consider the might and resources, the downward pressure from above meant that one could argue they didn't advance as much as they should. Russia itself being, or meant to be, the absolute power house yet quite a bit of the successful brands were from smaller countries, where they had had exposure to the West and likely still could have more integration than a factory in the Urals. The things designed and built 40/50 years ago that were broken from the start but still live on with tape and bandages, great on the individual level in some cases but not a way to run a country and the food shortages they experienced won't have had non-zero contribution from the poor technology, relatively speaking, that they "enjoyed". Great, in some theoretical doomsday scenario the Russian farmer will be able to get his 4mph tractor going. Meanwhile US and Europe were producing food surpluses. Bodging and improvising are brilliant and necessary but it's the level above that where innovation really suffered.

The atomic bomb, yeah the yanks had help (Brits really fucked themselves on that as well 😅) but was the Russia effort really that impressive? Again, considering the might behind them it took a while and it was mostly copied/stolen technology. Looking now at the shithole countries that have also managed it kinda lowers the prestige a little too. :P

This isn't to denigrate Russian people as not being able to innovate, they've managed it in areas like tech and finance where barriers to entry are much lower.

But we've seen in this war (and in history as it happens) that there's a tendency to over-estimate Russia, to assume they must have whatever (we know) the yanks have, and at the same scale and reliability.

cnocbui

"From September 1, the "Russian language" in schools should be replaced by other disciplines

Commissioner for the protection of the state language Taras Kremin believes that from the new academic year the subject "Russian language" in schools should be replaced with other disciplines.

"Regarding the study of such a discipline in schools as the "Russian language", it is necessary to consider the possibility of replacing this subject with others. I share the warnings of the Minister of Education and Science, as well as the Educational Ombudsman, that by the end of this academic year, Russian teachers, if they have not taught anything else, can be sent to a simple one. And from September 1, this discipline should be replaced by others, increasing the share of studying other important subjects, namely: "History of Ukraine", "Ukrainian Language", "Ukrainian Literature", "Mathematics" and "English", the press service of the Ombudsman quotes Kremin as saying.

The Commissioner also stressed the importance of reviewing the curriculum for "foreign literature", because it still pays great attention to the study of Russian writers."

It just sheets home how Russia has lost any possibility of a remotely civil relationship with Ukraine for at least a generation.

shillyshilly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938700#Comment_118938700

I heard he's due to have a heart attack out a 10th floor window....

shillyshilly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938456#Comment_118938456

They don't exactly work transponders in the dark, even when "going tactical"

ADSB (Mode S extended squitter) is not fully required by tactical aircraft (although there is a mandate that they "should")

They can work simple Mode S, which doesn't broadcast Lat/Long info, so can't be plotted to tracking sites, but keeps within guidelines for mode S requirements...

Then you go back to basic secondary radar, mode A and C, which is squawk and height info... you can track these too with widely available software and multilateration servers....

After that, it's tactical modes, there is discussion that the techniques used for receiving mode A & C can be used to track set frequency IFF transponders.... you can multi lat it, but you won't get an ID (as it's usually encrypted)...

Most new IFF systems have frequency hopping in them also.

What the tracking sites do, is multilat aircraft before they go "tactical" and put 2 and 2 together ....Tactical IFF is usually managed by AWACS.

So when they're up along the boarder, there's a good chance there is suspect Russian activity or managing NATO assets in Ukraine.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938716#Comment_118938716

Plus, post-WWII the amount of technology theft by the Soviets was pretty large. Remember the Rosenbergs?

cnocbui

"The filtering procedure has gained maximum momentum. In filtration camps and points, 100% of men, after standard filtration bullying (interrogation, checking gadgets, examining the body), are separated from others and conduct separate interrogations, including the instigation of the shooting. In general, we can say that 5-10% does not pass filtration and after that are exported to Dokuchayevsk and Donetsk. The fate is not known, we are working.

❗️ In the city, the occupiers report that from April 18, it is planned to finally close not only the city to entry/ exit for everyone, but also a ban on moving around the districts for a week. At this time, all the men remaining in the city will be filtered. In order to do this, they will be moved to Novoazovsk."

This very worrying filtration has been reported to be happening elsewhere as well, with grounds for failing including being employed in civil administration or government, as well as the more obvious of a military connection.

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938181#Comment_118938181

The difference between Putin and Ghadaffi, was the sheer nr's of the population who wanted him gone, and who were prepared to die to get rid of him. So far, what ever the level of anti-Putin sentiment that exists presently in Russia, Putin has managed to suppress it. Not to mention the Nrs of Russians who fervently believe in him, ( and there are many ) so whatever rumblings are there now, they will have to get much worse before any changes will take place.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938677#Comment_118938677

Ultimately protests and rebellions, obviously, can get large, but it's not how they start off. They grow from smaller units, and this is where Putin stops them.

Russians effectively live in a well organised police state, which is something they are quite good at still. It's probably the longest lived material police state currently in existence, even older than China. They didn't achieve that with kid gloves.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938700#Comment_118938700

Excellent, great to see. I joked about similar earlier, although some didn't get it.

goldenmick

The courage and conviction of the people of Ukraine has been truly magnificent and will be a permanent fixture in history books long after Putin has gone.... who himself will only be remembered as the tyrant who used threats to control his own people and against the world, and callously terminated tens of thousands of lives and instigated barbarity against civilians the like of which we never believed could happen again.

The plight and suffering of so many millions of ordinary people has touched the hearts of many, including myself, and we all hope and pray for a quick end to this needless and senseless tragedy.

I've penned some poetic stuff many years ago, and the indomitable spirit of Ukraine and its people have inspired me to turn my hand one more time to verse, in tribute to Ukraine:

The A - Z of War

Across the battle fields they roam

Brave men fighting for their home

Chose to fight and stand their ground

Dutiful and honour bound

Each one is some mothers son

Freedom fighting with their gun

Giving up their lives each day 

Hoping to succeed they pray

Invaders seek to take their land 

Just as those before had planned

Killing all who you once knew  

Looting raping torture too

Mighty spirit all the time  

Now cut down within their prime

Once they lived a life so free 

Proud with wife and family 

Quiver now their hearts no more

Rendered lifeless on the floor

Soldiers souls now wander free

Together in eternity

United still across the land 

Valiant warriors who still stand

Wondrous sight for we all know

Xenophobia and the Russian foe

Yet courage thrives and it stands tall

Zelensky's heroes one and all

Donald Trump

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938727#Comment_118938727

They should start teaching Irish instead.

Bring back Peig. To Ukraine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938910#Comment_118938910

Let's leave the war crimes to the Russians... 😀

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938595#Comment_118938595

You can't hold power like he has without a boogeyman to blame. What would they need him for if there was no external threat and why is all this money being spent on military if not to protect us from the boogeyman.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118938936#Comment_118938936

The RCC ruined 'Peig.' The editors took out all her bawdy humor and the result was the dreary tome that inflicted hatred of Irish onto generations of students. Really too bad, Peig was supposed to be quite the character IRL.

Donald Trump

Slava Peig