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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Nonsense?, like the Bushmaster being made and designed in Ireland, rather than Australia, the range of a JDAM being less released from a Reaper because the release height would be too low, when it's service ceiling is 15,200m, the US being unwilling to risk an RQ-180 over the most important and critical conflict since WW2, given the WW3 criticality risk, when this is a prime example of a situation justifying why the US spends so much on stealth tech, and so on.



  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Yeah, the top image is much too colourful, picturesque and peaceful for a fat old multi-billionaire dictator to tolerate. He would rather murder the happy people in the picture and bomb the place into grey miserable war-torn misery. Kunt.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    This bellend has bots upping his google reviews again. Take the time to drop him a 1 star and poor review.




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭rodge123




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,518 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, they made numerous miscalculations. They thought Ukraine would fall in 72 hours and there would be a victory parade through Kyiv. They felt the West and NATO would be bitterly divided on what to do and within months would have to accept that a pro-Russia regime in Ukraine was the new reality and they would just have to deal with this. They also thought sanctions would be pretty severe initially, but would also be perfectly manageable.

    I don't know who was advising Putin or whether he was simply overruling everyone, but he has made a series of catastrophic blunders. It's on a par with Hitler's invasion of Russia and later declaration of war on the US in 1941, which eventually led to the collapse of the regime.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    The early significant and embarrassing loss at the Battle of Techno House in Kherson was the precursor for the days ahead for Russian losses.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,418 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I see some echoes of the Russo-Japanese war and also the winter war with Finland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Winter war has unfortunate parallels, think they lost 9% of land and want to say 16% of economic output.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,647 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    At a football match in Poland today




  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ireland are the pricks, not the UK. I agree with all you said about the dirty money, rotten to the core Russian links, but they say you learn who your true friends are when the going gets tough. As for it just being a knee-jerk Svnegali trick to divert attention, that doesn't hold water either:

    "As I write this (20-1-22), eight weapons carrying C-17 transport aircraft have completed the trip from RAF Brize Norton to Kiev, Ukraine....Since 2015, the UK has helped to build the resilience and capabilities of the Ukrainian armed forces through Operation Orbital, which has trained more than 22,000 Ukrainian troops." https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-isnt-letting-ukraine-fall-without-a-fight/

    You have a blindspot when it comes to Johnson. He's no angel but like Obama, he inherited a mess from previous Tory governments which were the ones who got the Uk and Tories hooked on it's Oligarch money and corruption habit. But he didn't let it prevent him from doing the right thing with regards Ukraine and had the vision to see what Was coming and pulled out the stops to do something about it. Cameron was the true filth deserving of all approbium.

    Railing against the corrupt Johnson and the evil UK when the planes sending munitions and war kit started well before the invasion, and haven't stopped, with the UK sending 1,000 NLAWS while this spineless wonder of a country has every single one of it's precious 1,500 or so anti tank munitions still safely growing layers of mould in the Curragh?

    'adversity doth best discover virtue' - Bacon



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,066 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    Yes and posting a picture from the window where one is staying is not a good idea as people can easily fined out where you are located.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,908 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Will you get up the yard.

    Johnson is up to his absolute ears in Russian money. He's drowning in it. Did you miss him taking yearly multiple holidays to a Russian oligarchs son's house in Italy and multiple others around the world. He's dropped his security team multiple times when he was foreign secretary to go off to meet the guy and then made him a lord. An actual lord. The Tory party is swimming in Russian donations. Enough of this sanctimonious shite now they're buying their way out of the crap they created. The Tory's probably actually had to run their actions by the donors first. The donors are probably thinking Putin is 'now' bad for business. When he wasn't before.

    There's some level of revisionism going on in your post there horse. Ireland are here taking 40k plus refugee's and making it easy for them to get here with a welcome. The Brits pulled up all the draw bridges.

    Post edited by listermint on


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    No blindspot here. My eyes are quite open to Johnson thanks very much, and Cameron, who was his buddy, his fellow Etonian wanker in top hat and tails and later on in the Bulingdon club getting blowjobs off pigs heads while ripping up fivers in front of the homeless. Jolly japes, what what Bertie! He inherited his mantle rather than the mess. The training of Ukraine's troops didn't happen under him given he wasn't even PM until 2019. It was your "true filth deserving of all approbium" who was in power with that Ukrainian help. Johnson has vision only if and when it suits him and his and even then. He has a proven record of being a liar as a journalist, PM, husband, backbencher, PM, through Brexit and Covid. It's his default position.

    While our "spineless country", Ireland "the pricks" - in your eyes because we're not automatically keyboard warrioring with guns for the cause - of five million people has already taken in over 25,000 Ukrainian men, women and children with a "cap"(unrealistic) of 200,000(and over 40 million in direct aid) and Johnson's glorious Britannia of seventy million people has taken in just over 4,000 with caveats and long delays and feck all monetary and social support, while happy to milk the tit of dirty Russian money throughout and were the slowest in Europe to clamp down on them. But he sends the Ukrainians anti tank weapons so that washes him of sin? G'way outa that. Zelensky knows the score and knows what he needs from Johnson types and will milk them to get it because he needs to. But I'd be willing to bet his opinion of Johnson would echo mine far more than yours.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,658 ✭✭✭storker


    The mess Johnson's in at the moment is almost entirely of his own making. One may approve of his support of Ukraine (and I do), but that doesn't get him off the hook for taking Russian money and running an administration that lurches from mendacious to psychotic to omnishambolic and back again. And let's not forget that his support for Ukraine is mostly about (a) distracting from his woes at home and (b) fulfilling his wannabe Churchill w@nk-fantasy. Granted, none of this will be high on Zelensky's priorities and from his point of view he's quite correct. But let's not lose sight of what Johnson really is.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    But, but, Lister, he's giving them weapons. So all is forgiven and forgotten. I can certainly see how and why Zelensky feigns memory loss, he bloody well needs to and he's playing Johnson and his cronies to do it, but for those not needing to? That memory loss is a lot less explainable. Or should be.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Cheerful S


    Take Putin’s speeches here literally. He claimed it was a special operation to diminish Ukraine’s military to practically nothing and another aim was to support and protect the people of the Donbas and Lugansk regions. In the east and south Russian war objective is on course to be completed and Ukraine is not a small country got many very large cities in the east and south and Mariupol for good reason only city Russia was willing to completely destroy take it over, as it’s perceived by them to be the main base and home of the Azov battalion. Azov is some of the most battle-hardened warriors ( despite their views) Only over a month ( not a long time when there street to street battles between thousands of men on each side ) the city is close to falling now.

    It does seem the Kyiv operation did not go to plan. Russian military would typically flatten the defensive lines with artillery shells and cruise missiles and rockets and move in then to take out the frightened defenders left behind. What you saw at the beginning of Kyiv operations was columns of Russian light/heavy military vehicles behind it heading down roads/streets in a straight line, when you hit one tank and take it out vehicles behind it come to a stop and you expose yourself to enemy fire.

    Ukraine forces operated guerilla tactics ( hit and run) and some forces attacked behind their defensive barricades, were too dug in to take out by ground forces alone.. Strategically it was not a Soviet way of fighting a war. It is possible Putin in these early days of the war, told his generals, to not destroy the towns and villages on the way to Kyiv and so basically this left his own military exposed on all sides. The force Putin assembled was also too small to take a city that large anyway. Putin may also wanted to keep the large bulk of the Ukraine northern army tied down so they couldn’t head down south to help the army stationed there?

    Still have no clue how degraded the Ukraine military is hardware-wise. Western media blocks talking about such things. They likely have the manpower to continue the fight. But how many helicopters, airplanes, tanks, UAVs, and transport vehicles have they left, sams, s-300 and anti-air left? Russia hitting fuel depots inside Ukraine ( how much oil reserves have they left?) these vehicles need fuel and repairs after all.. Russia's industrial base for war is unharmed, Ukraine sites are constantly hit every day. Very hard to tell what's really happening to the Ukraine war machine..



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭ronivek


    like the Bushmaster being made and designed in Ireland, rather than Australia

    Yes; I made a mistake and said as much. I claimed it was built and designed in Ireland; whereas it turns out it was only the drivetrain which was designed and built in Ireland for the prototypes and then subsequently licensed to Australia for full production. There's a whole book about the project if you want to verify.

    the range of a JDAM being less released from a Reaper because the release height would be too low

    I never said "because the release height would be too low".

    I said that the maximum range of a JDAM is determined by how it is launched: that's just pure physics. UAVs have much lower top speeds and less manoeuvrability than your typical bomber. The below is an illustration to give you an idea what I'm referring to:

    Now the upper end of the ranges given in this diagram would be for supersonic and faster bombers: i.e. capable of Mach 1 (1,236 km/h). The top speed of the Reaper is about 482 km/h. My point is that the maximum range of an air launched bomb is a function of the speed and direction of the craft that releases it; and thus the Reaper cannot achieve this hypothetical maximum range.

    the US being unwilling to risk an RQ-180 over the most important and critical conflict since WW2

    Just my opinion; and I gave some reasons as to why I believe it unlikely that they would use it over Ukraine.

    If the US was actively at war with Russia there would be a much higher likelihood they would risk top secret stealth aircraft; right now we're not a that point and the Biden administration has been bending over backwards to try and stop that from happening so I just don't see it.

    If you don't want to have discussions about these topics then nobody is forcing you to; but leave out the snide little remarks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    "He claimed it was a special operation to diminish Ukraine’s military to practically nothing and another aim was to support and protect the people of the Donbas and Lugansk regions."

    Lets not forget the denazification, wonder how that part of the special operation is going?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ukraine is getting tech from the West. Russia cannot repair or make new mobile armaments for lack of material.

    Russia was careful not to bomb the **** out of Kyiv, but didn't not bomb civilian areas either. But then there are towns where they went full barbarian on.

    Russia will continue to lose the war.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣



    Looks the Russian returned



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭Dufflecoat Fanny


    Time for Ukrainian sympathisers to strike people involved in the invasion and other sites of importance in Russia so. Russia needs to feel unsafe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 273 ✭✭Labaik


    Luckily the Russians wont resort to the shock and awe method of the Americans in carpet bombing cities.


    For a nation so weak and inept at war, its surprising NATO want to surround them with military bases.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Sky news earlier,

    Russia Anti Nato museum installation , just shows how fecking desperate they are ,




  • Registered Users Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    You stated weeks ago that Mariupol had fallen.

    "In the east and south Russian war objective is on course to be completed"

    Whatever they can grab is their goal.

    Exact information on the state of Ukraine's military is not "blocked by Western media" or whatever conspiracy mumbo-jumbo you've just invented. The Ukrainians don't want to reveal precise info and analysts can make some guesses based on visual losses for both sides.

    "Russia's industrial base for war is unharmed"

    Which is why their tank factory production line has stopped.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling




  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No fan of the brexiters here but the UK Govt do deserve credit for sending weapons. Weapons are what will win this war, not moralising bullshit. Ireland won't even send a thousand or two moth eaten anti armour weapons. We are the pricks.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,469 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly




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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,826 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    David McWilliams with an interesting look at how German solidarity with Putin may be the lifeline Putin needs.


    Also how it throws Eastern Europe in to a longer period of crisis, faced with a long term threat of a militant Russia to the East and Russian friend Germany at their back.


    Great read.



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