Russia - threadbanned users in OP

Wes M.

A bit of lightness but back in the late 80's when I was a 2000AD reader, nuclear war between Russia and the West was shifting into the realm of science fiction. I'm reminded of the Judge Dredd strip from 1982, The Apocalypse War, which has Mega-City One struck by nuclear weapons by East-Meg-One. Such anxieties were palpable back in 1982, but it seems we're coming full circle at the moment. Let's hope it all stays within the fevered imagination of comic writers...

Run Forest Run

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680274#Comment_119680274

Lots of things could be interesting, if true. Like this for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kq0bjSQc7Ic

Always worth dropping in to see where Mr Galloway is standing with regard to war. He has been proven correct in the past.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680377#Comment_119680377

We could well see civil unrest in Belarus if Lukashenko attempted to involve the country in the war in any way.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680514#Comment_119680514

Not watching that shite .

rogber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680386#Comment_119680386

Look at who's posting the Twitter source. Last week he was posting sources here claiming a coup was underway in China. It's as good a guarantee as you can get that Belarus will NOT be entering the war

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680391#Comment_119680391

Apart from Libya. 😕

Who said anything about a random attack, it would need to be fully "justified".

I imagine plans have already drawn up for it.

Gatling

Totally agree with Sergiy Kyslytsya Ukrainian ambassador at the UN

Close the doors and put the mortice lock on

https://twitter.com/SergiyKyslytsya/status/1575445065127923713?s=20&t=sWfb_SPD-vAd5ksILTvfOw

Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680386#Comment_119680386

Its overwhelmingly likely not true, just like the previous 43 times it was claimed Belarus was about to enter the war.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680530#Comment_119680530

It's Gas the thinking that NATO don't actually plan for this kind of stuff Sure the USA had plans in the early years war with the British Empire. IIRC it basically turned into a stalemate with the British keeping the USA bottled up and raiding from Canada. War Plan Red I think.

Furze99

The land grab/ annexing is just for local Russian consumption. So the administration can show some progress in their war, a success and to justify conscripting citizens. Beyond that it doesn't change anything at all. Ukrainian army with support will continue to press and push the Russian forces back towards the pre existing borders. 'The Bomb' doesn't come into it as it would be the end for the Russian administration and many of their cities and people.

The biggest sh*t that has gone down recently is the sabotage of the pipelines. That is real escalation and more where the danger lies. They try that again on any other EU or NATO states infrastructure and I think there will be major repercussions.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680560#Comment_119680560

But it's not beyond the realm of possibility,

Belarus could still enter the war at any stage,

Furze99

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Podge_irl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680616#Comment_119680616

The active armed forces of Belarus number 62,000. Think it is fair to suspect their reservists are about as useful as Russian ones.

They are not supplying 100k troops to do anything. It is a nonsense suggestion. Why on Earth would they enter the war when Russia is losing?

cnocbui

"In Dagestan, a father blew himself up together with the policemen who wanted to mobilize his son."

There is an utterly graphic and astonishing video of them exploding.

Tragic, but it's the sort of resistance needed to have any chance at regime change.

Gregor Samsa

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680616#Comment_119680616

Why though? And at what cost to them? Unlike Russia, Belarus is full of people actively wanting to overthrow their dictator, and the only thing stopping them is the armed forces. Belarus needs its army firmly inside its borders. And it's an army that's only manned and equipped to quell domestic strife, and project a limited aura of territorial defense. Despite giving their territory to Russia to launch the initial invasion, they didn't join in even when there was the assumption of decisive victory. Why would Lukashenko jump in now with an unprepared, unequipped, under-staffed army to join a losing side in a very unpopular war (domestically) and leave your entire regime exposed to real threat, not to mention the country itself if this does escalate further?

The "realm of possibility" is so broad that there's really not much point in spending time out on its fringes.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680642#Comment_119680642

If they were going to enter at any stage it would have been under the guise of "peace keepers" or some shít after Putin took the whole of Ukraine in 3 days.

That ship has long sailed, if NATO doesn't bomb them back to the 70s, Ukraine will probably be given the tools to do it.

Lukashenko is an absolute oaf, but he is not completely retarded.

Anyway the weaker Russia becomes the more chance he has of removing himself from Putins hole, although he seems comfy up there.

The reality is, stark or otherwise, there is no way Ukraine will be "allowed" lose this war, we have crossed that line, too much at stake now.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680642#Comment_119680642

62,000 plus another 320,000 + reservists on top of the several thousands Russian forces who are both making sure he stays in power and launch attacks on ukraine.

He could send tens of thousands while keeping the bulk of his 60,000 military forces at home

Gatling

@Gregor Samsa The "realm of possibility" is so broad that there's really not much point in spending time out on its fringes.

Much like the talk of nukes and WMDs but yet it's still being talked about on a daily basis on here

cnocbui

‼️In Crimea, Russian troops have redeployed after a series of explosions

▪️After a series of explosions in the annexed Crimea, the Russian military relocated part of the personnel of the Russian Black Sea Fleet to Novorossiysk, and also distributed the aviation that was in Crimea to airfields on the territory of Russia. The representative of the Main Directorate of Intelligence of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, Vadym Skibitsky, reported this in Krym.Realiya.

"Measures were carried out in the Black Sea Fleet, those personnel who are not directly involved and have auxiliary functions, were relocated from the military headquarters to Novorossiysk. We do not rule out that some warships and supply ships will be moved from Sevastopol to Novorossiysk as well. To avoid getting hit. As for the movements, the grouping in Crimea has not changed on the Crimean peninsula, apart from the fact that aviation has been redeployed, its concentration on airfields of the Russian Federation, air defense has been strengthened due to the transfer of additional air defense forces and means," Vadim Skibitskyi said

Ukraine seem to be responding to Orc threats as you would expect - giving them the finger.

Brussels Sprout

Lukashenko is a moron but he's wily enough not to shoot himself in the foot by sending his forces abroad to fight a very dangerous opponent.

Like all dictators, Lukashenko's #1 policy is staying in power. Everything should be viewed though that lens.

There were persistent mass protests all over the country, only two years ago, the likes of which have never been seen in Putin's Russia. Those people haven't gone away and they certainly haven't changed their mind about Lukashenko. He's not going to weaken his hand and allow them to pop back up.

At this stage he's basically functioning as an emotional support dog for Putin.

cnocbui

Ukrainians are on another level.

https://news.yahoo.com/crowdfunded-ukrainian-satellite-helped-destroy-130500498.html

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680732#Comment_119680732

Half the army and the reservists would be doing the same cross country running we saw in recent days too if it came to it.

Nothing in it for Lukashenko to invade Ukraine, everything to lose though.

Not going to happen, instilling yourself in a campaign that can't be won would be next level stupid.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119679939#Comment_119679939

No immediate response I’d say

Economics101

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119677468#Comment_119677468

Thanks. I just hope the Russians are as slow in reacting to their 99% ballots as we have been in following up on the Seanad electorate amendment.

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680817#Comment_119680817

Absolutely.

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220928-opposition-says-political-suicide-if-belarus-joins-ukraine-war

"Even those people who are for this regime (and) allies of Lukashenko, they are against the war in Ukraine."

TheValeyard

Lukashenko will do whatever keeps him in power. Nothing else. He knows the hangman is always right over his shoulder.

Hobgoblin11

https://t.me/info_zp/16952

National nuclear plants operator Energoatom denies information about fire at 2nd unit of Zaporizhzhia power plant

there is an issue in Zaporizhzhia!

zv2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680560#Comment_119680560

If Belarus enters the war they must be destroyed by America/nato. Attacking Belarus is not an attack on Russia. Attack them.

GM228

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119680856#Comment_119680856

They made a more informed post that there is no issue at the NPP.

https://twitter.com/Don_Standeford/status/1575468232617906176?t=jULUtNgYnImgrrMZYI-DnA&s=19

Podge_irl

Some very basic logic needs to be employed here. When Russian forces were threatening Kyiv and looked like they have a good shot at victory, Belarus could have provided a significant impetus to their operations and yet they remained on the sidelines (despite at certain points suggesting they were about to attack). Lapdogs like Lukashenko leap at that kind of opportunity - he simply has too many domestic problems to make it a realistic option. To do so now would be pure insanity.