Russia - threadbanned users in OP

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810589#Comment_119810589

could have painted them somehow rf transmitters for the air to sea weapons ?

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810589#Comment_119810589

There's been suggestions of water and aerial drone's were used ,we have the videos of the boat drones hitting targets

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119809323#Comment_119809323

Why do you think they weren't?

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119809431#Comment_119809431

We're not interested in what Claire is doing to Micks pipe.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810607#Comment_119810607

Would be funny now if the UK ministry of defence release a video of what happened.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810615#Comment_119810615

Getting 70s flashbacks...

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119809499#Comment_119809499

You weren't advocating for peace in February or March but now that Russia are having their ass handed to them, you're all about it.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810625#Comment_119810625

You see it here all the time people have a stance then Government changes stance they also change it's tiresome.

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810660#Comment_119810660

Not one of these peaceniks that recently crawled out of the woodwork had a word to say when mariupol was being levelled. Or when the disgusting acts in Bucha came to light. So they can stick it up their hole now. My sincere hope is that we see the implosion of Russia as a result of this war. A stain on humanity for going on two centuries.

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810674#Comment_119810674

Sorry sometimes I'm to succinct. More in relation to supporters of something. Once what they support changes narrative they also change with it. No free thinking just support of whatever position.

mcmoustache

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810470#Comment_119810470

For all its faults, the US has a military that's unmatched. Not only do they have good gear and well-trained soldiers, they can apply those forces thousands of kilometers away at short notice thanks to a massive navy and presences in bases around the world. With that out of the way, spare a thought for the Russians. They are nowhere near that. In fact, I'm not even sure that they're close to parity with the Chinese at this point.

What I'm getting at here is that beyond all the huffing and puffing, Putin has really pushed Russia down in the rankings. The Ukrainians helped of course by killing a huge amount of Russia's military and taking their equipment but the other powers must surely be realising that Russia can't be the number two anymore. Whatever about the propaganda and all that, world leaders know the score, regardless of what they say publicly. Xi knows that Russia is now the junior partner. Even Modi is probably thinking the same.

Between the sanctions and the military defeat, Russia is going to be at best, some kind of North Korea. It's a country with huge potential but the kleptocracy that governs it has turned it into an utterly incompetent shithole of a country that can't even invade a much smaller neighbour.

Even now, well before things have settled, Russia has shown itself to be fairly useless. Unlike situations where they could bomb civilians from the air and look tough, now they've been forced to show their hand and it's a bunch of pokemon cards and a loyalty card for a defunct supermarket.

Russia has nothing except gas. Their people don't want to fight. Those that do don't have proper equipment because their system encourages theft and lies so the 500,000 bulletproof vests mostly existed on paper and the rest was sold on ebayski.

Their whole system is rotten from top to bottom. The only thing that they seem to be doing well is propaganda but now they're even believing it themselves. Don't get me wrong, it's still working well in the US and outside of the English speaking world but the are falling for it themselves.

Anyway, in summary, there is no way that Russia can be seen to be number two anymore and they shouldn't be treated as such. And you can be sure that Xi and Modi are well aware of this by now. They're not even on par with Ukraine.

mikewest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810704#Comment_119810704

Ah no, you're wrong they can definitely be seen as a number two 💩

xxxxxxl

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810748#Comment_119810748

on the 3rd world list of armies 🤔

It has all the hallmarks of a dictatorial leader and leadership who have been living in a bubble of their own making, because nobody was prepared to give truthful facts, probably because there are dire consequences to doing so.

They believed their own hype and probably were quite confident that they were an almighty and unstoppable force. They invaded, made a complete mess and are still unwilling to accept reality or that the fact that they’re simply not omnipotent.

It’s a pointless, vicious, hugely destructive and unwinnable mess that’s killing and displacing huge numbers of people and unleashing utter misery, and for what? Some bonkers notion.

How they get back to peacetime is anyone’s guess. They need to get their head out of their rear and withdraw from Ukraine.

Moscow can’t be entirely run by people who are afraid of their own shadow and a naked emperor who is both destroying Ukraine and Russia itself. Surely someone has some backbone !?

mikewest

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810749#Comment_119810749

Please reread the comment as you may have skimmed and missed the nuance 😇😇😇😇

BorneTobyWilde

Who gives the go ahead in UK if they are helping Ukraine to attack Russia fleet, I assume it's Rishi that needs to okay it ? Of course we all know it's Ukraine, who are trained to do it by UK, but it's still Ukraine carrying it out.

joseywhales

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810470#Comment_119810470

In fairness, I don't think this is constructive.

I know it's easy to call out a hubristic actor whose entire worldview depends on you being their adversary.

In reality the us is the adversary of noone. Russia is dwarfed economically, military and politically by America. Not only is the us blessed by natural resource and youth/immigration/human capital but more importantly a superior ideology for now at least. That ideology comes with a caveat, you need to champion the success of other nations which in turn enriches your own. Brow beating the moronic side of Russian culture will not advance democratic society. Unfortunately we continually have to turn the other cheek but affirm our strength to influence all corners. Everytime we let ourselves down with indulgence in pride we fuel the base instincts of our opposition.

There is no question "the west" could aggressively impose itself on the rest of the world but in the long term it would only create animosity and eventual failure of the west.

I think what we are watching is the slow acquiescence of Russia to our values.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810803#Comment_119810803

Hats off, great point.

cnocbui

❗️The body of Russian General Alexander Lapin was taken from the Moscow River today. He commanded the group of aggressive troops "Center", - Channel 24, citing sources in the special services

Windows, special tea, rivers - so many to choose from.

(apparently still awaiting confirmation)

vixdname

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119810041#Comment_119810041

And you talk s**t for yours

Fair to say Russia is having a horror show of a weekend. Quite apt.

If Russia’s war was a Hallowe’en movie, this weekend would be the start of the third act where Jason, Freddy or Mike Myers was about to be vanquished.

greenpilot

NEWS:

A video from the cameras of unmanned surface vehicles featuring an attack on the vessels of the Russian Black Sea Fleet has been published for free access.

In the  you can see an attack on the 11356R project Admiral Makarov frigate, which became the actual flagship of the fleet after the sinking of the Moskva missile cruiser. The footage shows a door-gunner firing on a drone craft as it makes its way towards the Russian ships, bullets striking the water all around it.

In parts of the footage you can see the flashes of drone-strikes on the extreme top left of the FLIR cameras video.

On a web-cam, pointing out to sea, you can also see an explosion and black smoke on the top right of the footage, before the video stops.

Now that Sevastapol Navy Port has been atracked, I would not be surprised if Russias response to this crosses whatever lines remain in Russia's playbook. Even psychologically, this cuts deep in the Russian psyche. It would be equivalent to an attack on a US Naval port, or Haulbowline or the British Naval base on the Clyde. To Russians, in their minds, Ukraine can now touch what was the untouchable. A masterful attack.

https://youtu.be/qdgcMPZo0Bs

Ukrainian authorities have not officially confirmed their participation in the organization of the operation.

greenpilot

In the aftermath of the Sevastapol ship and facilities attack, the USAF Global Hawk is currently tracking towards its station-keeping point. It hasn't been around ADSB too much lately ( or had its transponder off), but this morning, its joined by an E8, with its distinctive radar disc. I saw both of these up close and personal many years ago. The UAV is particularly impressive, due to its size. Its huge! The E8 is essentially a Boeing 707 airframe, with a glass cockpit and new engines. There is a tailplane of a 707 serving as a roundabout decoration on the approach roads to Dublin Airport. Its always recognised by the forward-pointing radio antenna.

All eyes are on Crimea.

Field east

What I am amazed at is the almost total lack of reportage on progress or otherwise from both sides of the conflict. We only hear of a ‘biggie’ now and again eg drone attack a few days ago on those ships in the Crimea. I can understand why we get no news from the Ru side and if we do It will be very questionable unless it is from a very independant /reputable source.

Also, is it the case that the Ukr has been very successful in its lockdown on any reportage from the war in general and specifically the front. Apart from what the gov wants to release officially. Ukr probably does not allow reporters near the front for the same reason

threeball

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119811119#Comment_119811119

Russians blame everything on everyone except themselves. It's always the nazis, the Ukrainians, Nato, the west.

And we have people here that excuse them for not protesting because they might go to prison or be killed. Yet half a million of these fcuking idiots were happy enough to take up arms and go die in a war that was not to their benefit. Watch their brothers and friends die whilst being lied to about their deployment, their equipment, the capabilities of their enemy whilst also having their own kind point a gun at them from the rear. Yet no one rose up and challenged this. Not a single battalion outside of killing their direct commander took on the system. Armed and angry, yet utter sheep. They deserve no sympathy. We had people in this country fight against incalculable odds just for the right to be free from tyranny, but not the Russians. They'd rather die for something they don't believe in than something they do.

Field east

I listen - great entertainment- to the various RT broadcasts where the penalises rant about what should be done in the Ukr and to ALL the UKranians in order to ‘put manners on them’ . The REGULATOR re what you can and cannot say on radio and TV in Ru must have very little or ABSOLUTLY no guidance to help her/ him in Her /his job when you listed to what is being said. Eg Soldiers/civilians/ children are sub human and therefor should be raped,shot, murdered ,starved , castrated, left to die Or more or less use whatever means you can come up with to rid us of this scum. And if you cannot do that then destroy the place, level it, blow up dams, destroy its power station assets, bomb its ports mine its farmlands, blow up itsfarmyards , steel mills, grain stores, take what you want such as washing machines , combine harvesters, etc

All of the above , in my and general international opinion is well below even a sub human level, YET HOW HAS PUTIN SAID ABSOLUTLY NOTHING ABOUT THEIR BEHAVIOUR - so he must concur with their contributions and encouraged to do so. Does he effectively own the TV station -RT.

Is this yet another example of the measure of the man. The man who said we are of the one family, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Dufflecoat Fanny

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/119811184#Comment_119811184

There's no hope for them to ever co-exist with the west and you can't trust them to change. Russia needs to be divided up and die off like Byzantium.

EOQRTL

Russia have now backed themselves into a corner with blaming the UK for the attack on their ships. Yet another red line the botox dwarf has drawn for himself that he must respond to. Going to be a very interesting few days ahead for us all.

zv2

The last 10 seconds are priceless-

https://twitter.com/DjourneyMusic/status/1586666116851564544?s=20&t=7d0rHV03rfYJmJ-C0LEwmg

odyssey06

A Tweet I think worth mentioning especially in light of Russia conscripting men in the annexed territories

"Some think if Ukraine surrendered, that would bring peace & Ukrainians would not be fighting now. Well, no. If Ukraine fell in 3 days, russians would now be mobilizing us as cannon fodder to further invade into other countries. Cause that's how russian imperialism works."

https://mobile.twitter.com/OlenaHalushka/status/1586355312914677761