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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    The biggest issue is they aren't operated by any eu or nato members,and those who have any are in Russias sphere of influence,



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Jesus wept,

    The only reason he's sitting there is because putin has 25,000 + soldiers keeping him in power,



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    I think we need to be looking outside of Nato for equipment, I still think the swedish (HiMars GLSDB )and Koreans are producing some of the best infantry fighting vehicles anywhere,they are getting some CVs90s from Saab one of the best off the shelf infantry vehicles anywhere, after that I'd be chasing the Korean Hanwha Defense K21 infantry fighting vehicle which is build to a higher standard than current nato IFVs, they also have the K2 Black panter tank which is up there with Challengers and Abrams or push the boat out and get the Hanwha Redback IFV built for the Australian military which exceeds anything Nato currently operate in the same role .


    K21 IFV

    AS21 aka Redback IFV



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    More on Russian losses in Ukraine,2000 dead orcs for every 100 yards gained,we keep getting the usual suspects coming back to tell us according to their sources Ukraine are losses are high,but the Ukrainans are not losses aren't on the scale of what the Russians are loosing on a weekly basis.





  • Registered Users Posts: 486 ✭✭junkyarddog




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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Scholz and the Socialists are going to start rolling back delivery now it is out of the headlines.


    The Left across Europe must not be allowed give succour to Russia again



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Wagner forces appearing on social media begging for support and ammo after being "cut off from" Russian military supplies



  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Private Joker


    They seem to be using the zap brannigan manoeuvre.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    That was always the fear ,they will use the excuse of oh we have to wait for the American Abrams to deployed before the Leopards can be delivered,or something along the lines of the Spanish leopards yes you can have them,but there not safe to use so sorry you can't have them



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭bennyineire


    Still find it strange that a "rag tag" army like the Wagner forces like these would not surrender rather than appeal on Social Media



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  • Registered Users Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Private Joker


    Because they are essentially mercenaries and would not be protected by the Geneva convention



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Surrender and wait for a sledgehammer,


    I'd be thinking **** that pledge allegiance to Ukraine and offer to fight for them



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Yes, on the road to Petra, beautiful trip. Also I moved a lot between Damascus and Amman. I don't think that I've seen anywhere else the different color's of desert sand that I've seen there. In the Bazaar's and tourist shops you can find little bottles with different coloured sands depicting Camels, Horses etc. From black to Pink, and all the shades in between. Yes I've seen the " headless" trucks LOL, but I would not be a fan of them...give me a roof over my head any day...and a working air conditioner.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,439 ✭✭✭jmreire


    True, mercenaries are not covered by the Conventions except if they are wounded or sick. And they have to be treated humanely at all times.

    Post edited by jmreire on


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,155 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Meanwhile Russia is getting 'new' tanks.

    'The Russian ministry of defense has acquired thirty old T-34 tanks sparking speculation the Soviet medium tank that was introduced in 1940 could soon be reintroduced to the battlefields of Ukraine. Putin's military has been faced with the challenge of fielding tanks able to compete with the modern armour soon to be supplied to Ukraine such as the US Abrams and the British Challenger 2'



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Wagner forces begging for supplies after being cut off from Russian military supplies 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.

    Bakhmut holds I'd be asking for refunds on those crystal balls lads ....





  • Registered Users Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    The finest of Emperor Augustine's legions are being readied as well.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,882 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Bitcoin


    You are commenting on one heavily edited video and are using that as a basis for an argument. Very flimsy.

    The documented losses of the orcs in men and tanks are staggering since day 1. Yet despite all this, none of the experts predicted an orc collapse at Kherson or Kharkiv.

    I don't know what war you're watching, but we've seen for several weeks now the orcs have been throwing all the freshly conscripted mobiks and convicts and have made a few km's of ground at very best.

    It's clear Ukraine are biding their time here. They will counter attack. It will cause another orc collapse. Supposed "experts" like yourself will have to pick your jaws up off the floor for the third time.

    Ukraine is winning, if you want to fall for the orc propaganda that the orcs know what they are doing, then have at it, but be prepared to be humiliated.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Remember it's all propaganda that they don't have proper gear,the orc's get the best of everything according to some



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  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Remember how we were told by some that sanctions weren't working and the ruble was doing fine ,

    Watch this space,banks are already asking the government to allow an increase in foreign currency allowed to be held by Banks not by 10% but 10 fold increases in foreign currencies


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  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Bitcoin


    You are correct. Bakhmut WILL hold.

    I have been watching these supposed claims of orc artillery superiority since Summer.

    When things were bad it was 10:1 in favour of the orcs.

    Then in Autumn it was 5:1 in favour of the orcs.

    Over Christmas I saw reports of 3:1 in favour of the orcs.

    Now I am seeing some reports that it's 1:1.

    @Manic Moran seems to think it's Ukraine that has the problem though.

    He's wrong. There is only one side losing here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 240 ✭✭Electric Gypsy


    How much of the Russian population really support Putin though? A few weeks ago I was listening to prof Noah Buckley from Trinity being interviewed by Pat Kenny. Bizarrely, he claimed not only that the general Russian population supported Putin, but that they supported him 'because' of the war! This all surprises me considering I've heard a lot about the various protests in Russia that we heard about last year. When Pat asked the question of whether someone from Putin's inner circle might turn against him, his response was that it definitely wouldn't be happening because Putin has eliminated everyone that could either be popular, or form a threat against him. Although that may be true, you'd be hoping Putin's recent behaviour would cause him to have new enemies... and I think that's what Pat was getting at.

    This professor also claimed (without question from Pat) that another reason why the Russian people like Putin is because he's grown the economy over the last 20 years. I don't know much about the history of the Russian economy, but has he grown the economy? I'd have thought that anyone else elected instead of Putin would have tried to integrate Russia with the rest of the world, thus making it more wealthy. Hasn't Putin shrunk the economy?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,088 ✭✭✭threeball


    Agree to restart buying their gas off them as long as its pumped through Ukraine. We'll pay a set rate but 40% goes in reparations to Ukraine until a set value of X trillion is met. The 40% will be paid by the EU countries direct to Ukraine.

    Kill two birds with one stone whilst avoiding a Germany after WW1 scenario.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    They are, they are well used to the cold, if they had even had a command structure that provided them shi7 clothes they would have everything east of the Dneiper now



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,810 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    There are reasonable questions that holding Bakhmut is not strategically sound now.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    But the Ukrainans have stabilized bakhmut for most part,and Wagner forces are running into difficulties which they didn't forsee ,they didn't take bakhmut and now they seem to have been cut lose from the Russian military altogether,we will see the Ukrainans pushing out knowing that whats Infront of them is a limited force with limited supplies,why would the Ukrainans fall back now ,they took the best and worse Russia could throw at them and yet they still hold been bakhmut despite it being under siege for over 6 months now



  • Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭Bitcoin


    Really?

    There are a lot of good reasons to make the orcs fight for it.

    Most of the convicts have now been exhausted, the orcs have set themselves a timetable to take the city by (March 31st), and they're now throwing their reconstituted elite VDV men at it.

    Artificial timelines with your best remaining troops in frontal attacks against prepared defenses. It's a recipe for disaster for the orcs.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,321 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    You are failing in some basic reading and/or logic here, but I’m patient so I’ll try again. The problems the Russian military is having are not relevant to the problems that the Ukrainian military is having beyond the fact that the Russian problems are sufficiently comprehensive that the Ukrainians are still able to hold despite their own issues.

    It is obvious by Ukraine’s own admission that they need improvements in equipment, ammunition and training. The West is providing it. The video provides a case study as to why.

    You don’t send single tanks to do a job if you have a choice in the matter. It’s something I have a smidgen of experience in, trust me on this. Doing so is indication of an issue which the collective West is trying to help redress.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui



    Please explain the logic of giving up Bakhmut. Why do the Orcs then suddenly give up their aim to take all of Donetsk, put the tea on, put their feet up and cease advancing to take the pressure ofF you so you can relax and conserve your resources for the big offensive?

    It's a fairy story and I am concerned the US is trying so hard to sell this nonsense. Ukraine have it sussed.



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