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No were not all fauqed, and this is part of the problem going forward, outside of Ukraine there's NATO any real threat to a NATO country gets a massive military reaction, but it will take more than a drone landing in a forest or just inside some line some where, the threat going forward now is the lack of munitions and equipment in NATO countries who have given everything but the kitchen sink to Ukraine,this leaves those states with a weakened defence capabilities, as we've some countries are being pressured into handing over kit to Ukraine and then Having to rush out to purchase more equipment to replace that equipment and at the same time ukraine comes back and says we want even more donations, only recently Ukrainians were demanding that Sweden be pushed through the NATO process so they can donate all of their great military equipment to them,
NATO and the international community could have done a lot more to make sure this war didn't start, but they are hardly coming away Smelling of roses ,we playcated Putin in 2014 ,now we expect Ukraine to fight a moden war with none of the resources to do so , some stuff but now there's not a lot to give going forward,
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@amandstu If we allow countries to invade neighbouring countries and hold onto territory they will not stop there .
But nobody actually stopped them ,this is the crux of the problem which led to this latest invasion, Ive been on numerous threads discussing the invasion that was coming since 2014 ,your a Russophobe,you hate this and your just saying this to make them look bad , Fast forward 550+ days post invasion 2.0 and guess what were still having the same discussion,
The EU and NATO didn't do enough and aren't doing enough,but now they are sitting there going Ukraine aren't doing enough and the big counter has achieved very little strategically and winter is rapidly approaching which will pause the counter offensive .
"Have you references for donor counties' arms being depleted so that they can no longer defend themselves'
So NATO countries have an infinite supply of weapons, tanks and other vehicles to Ukraine.
No ,no they do not,have countries given a very large supply of equipment and munitions to Ukraine yes ,has that equipment and munitions and vehicles been replenished no they have not have their stores replenished, does that leave countries weakened defence wise yes .
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There's absolutely no evidence to suggest that there's any shortage of materials in NATO.
It's well documented that there is shortages of artillery and other munitions, they are struggling to find the 1 million rounds promised to Ukraine
, is there a large number of tanks, IFVs and other armour in NATO to give to Ukraine no
That's shortages.
Yes NATO are modernising not a rapid scale by any stretch
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I'm surprised kamela Harris seems to have been completely overlooked over the last 18 months ,
For a country it's size and the numbers involved in political activism from a young age , the current only two choices are terrible,
I was saying on another thread about the rise and number of pro 2A youtubers looking like getting the nod to run in Republicans states elections in the next while isn't great all anti woke,pro god and conservatives , all with followers in the millions who tend to be more towards the extreme end of the spectrum,
Rather than saying we need to fix America,they want to bring god and traditional family values , church on Sundays and anti LGBT rights.
I don't see American politics settling down any time soon
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