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Field east

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121492641#Comment_121492641

I can picture UKr ‘losing ground ‘in certain places with a view to the Ru rushing in to occupy it and because the Ru would not have time to set up defence lines to secure it and they are in a confined area the UKr open up and the place becomes a Turkey shoot for the Ukr. .

I would imagine that Ukr is not too worried about losing some land as long as it is very successful in eliminating a lot of Ru armoury and personnel

is it not the case that the defender loses less than the attacker , in general

RoyalCelt

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121492136#Comment_121492136

They've already lost most of their gains north of Bakhmut too. Hopefully they were just unfavorable positions to continue holding and it's not a trend.

johnnyskeleton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493213#Comment_121493213

Unfortunately its a misleading headline. Assuming the 315k figure is correct, and Ive no reason to doubt it, this includes all combatants on the Russian side, including DPR/LPR militias, Wagner mercenaries, non army infantry (VDV, Rosgvardia, Naval Infantry, Marines etc) and Storm Z troops etc.

Russian propagandists often say that the Russian army has only lost 10% of the figure that Ukraine uses - c.30k. This is also potentially true from the point of view that if you exclude all combat deaths of soldiers who are not part of the Russian Army Branch of the Armed Forces, then you could get this figure.

Its also possible that losses are disproportionately high amongst the mobilised and storm Z etc rather than longer serving contract soldiers.

There is still a large amount of Russian side combatants still in Ukraine, probably bigger than the original invasion force of 190k odd.

So a more accurate headline would be that total Russian side losses are equivalent to about 90% of the pre war army strength.

duck.duck.go

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493397#Comment_121493397

That’s what the original headline from wsj I posted few pages back said ☺️

Jinglejangle69

If Ukraine can get this funding from America and the EU I can see the tide of the war turning in their favour.

Russia are throwing everything at Ardivka and taking massive losses.

If Ukraine can push back with a lot of new kit heading into the winter where do Russia go from there?

Putin knows time is running out.

johnnyskeleton

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493442#Comment_121493442

Yes. But its still a misleading headline

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493813#Comment_121493813

“There will be peace when we achieve our goals,” Putin said. “They haven’t changed. Denazification of Ukraine, the demilitarisation of Ukraine.”

Just empty rhetoric to justify a continuation of a war he has failed to win, and has entered a Sunk Cost, Pyrrhic phase. Weakness? What choice did Eastern Europe have: Russia at Poland's borders won't bring peace.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493558#Comment_121493558

Indeed. But it does imply one important detail. They suggest that 90% of their pre-war Army were lost meaning that (if true), only 10% of their entire proffesional & trained armed forces remain active and are working with a much larger cohort of PMCs, activated reservists and poorly trained mobniks.

I'd be curious to see what the remaining pre-war 10% are actually used for. Has Putin held them in Russia to protect himself, or have they been doled out to the various divisions as command staff to ensure that at least some trained soldiers are working with the mobniks? Given the paniced response to the Wagner uprising a while back, I'd guess the latter has happened, and that beyond some token border guards, almost all of the army is in Ukraine.

duck.duck.go

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493558#Comment_121493558

The article is not misleading and quite factual, but yes I can see how some people might just skim the headline and not read the details

Either way it has been entertaining watching Putin’s supporters bend over backwards trying to downplay what for all intents and purposes has been a disaster

This also explains why we are seeing ever higher casualty rates (lack of training for conscripts) and ever older WW2 era equipment being used (as evidenced by daily visually confirmed kills lists) by Russians

Time is not on Russias side as everything is getting worse and worse for them in this Three Day War

Paddigol

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493920#Comment_121493920

Its pure nonsense. On the one hand he says Ukraine has nothing without western military aid, yet on the other hand he says they needed to demilitarise Ukraine. It's patently obvious from the early days of the war that Ukraine was no military threat to Russia and was very far from being on a war footing.

As for de-nazification? Apart from, as you say "empty rhetoric", is dislike of what you perceive a neighbour's internal politics to be now grounds for invading them? More nonsense.

I didn't catch his speech any mention of the 3-day war? Will his boys be home by Christmas?

duck.duck.go

Apparently sanctions are not working yet Putin dedicated more of his time to talk about egg prices than the war

https://twitter.com/Liveuamap/status/1735256668663853186?s=20

victor8600

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493959#Comment_121493959

Nah, no boys home for Christmas. There is no point for Putin personally to back down from his megalomaniac stance. The only hope for the war's end is the removal of Putin from power. Even stupid fúcks who call for "peace talks" must understand that for Putin this means total surrender of Ukraine and the genocide of Ukrainian people.

Hopefully, at some stage, Russian population gets tired of being treated like garbage and they rise up in a revolution as they have done before.

jmreire

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Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494099#Comment_121494099

"Hope is not a strategy." Drive them out of Ukraine and let the chips fall in RuZZia.

duck.duck.go

I wonder how the “give them a quarter of Ukraine in name of peace” camp gonna square this circle created by Putin

Source; https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1735249602893296121

Or is it gonna be another bout of mental gymnastics like that time Putin stood on stage and made it clear he wants to recreate Russian Empire deep into Europe and beyond

Furze99

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494027#Comment_121494027

Squeeze the bastards, make life as uncomfortable as possible for Russians within and those without who support their state's invasion.

zv2

Scrol down a couple of posts to the attack on Kyiv

https://twitter.com/officejjsmart/status/1735155665528660051

duck.duck.go

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/25466

Russians are now copying their HAMAS allies and using human shields

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121493383#Comment_121493383

They need a new plan because at this stage they look like they are just happy to buy time ,yes Russia is taking losses but at the same time ukraine is taking losses, they have received hundreds of tanks,IFVs and other armour vehicles,they have large amount of anti tank weapons and thousands of man pads ,and yet they are moving forward they have the tools but don't seem to have a willingness to make big moves ,they should have left bakmut and pushed to break through the Russian lines to try to get to meltipol which is the Keystone to splitting the Russians lines from donesk to Crimea, there's no point saying oh we don't have air superiority therefore we're not going to risk men and equipment,they won't be able to achieve air superiority nor will the Russians, it's all well and good people coming on to remind us America has thousands of Abrams tanks, Bradley's,Lavs F16s f18s because they aren't going to Ukraine,yes they sent 30 tanks and 90 + Bradley's but yet they don't seem to be using them in any real numbers not since the start of the Counter Offensive, now we are seeing lone Bradleys operating out in the open achieving hits against Russian but then getting knocked out,

If they don't make gains we will see more and more people outside of Congress asking what's going on with our equipment and why they aren't making progress,

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121492136#Comment_121492136

The ukrainians need something heavy to change the stalemate and/or prevent rollback.

There is no point in even discussing that, they won't be given it, whatever it is.

The political reality is that the West. Especially Europe, was not too serious about providing what was needed to force Russia out. Seems a deliberate calculation of bleed but not break the Russia army was made.

That is a serious error and one that will cause of instability and chaos globally, when push came to shove, democracy didn't shove back with a will to win.

It's greenlight time to anyone who thinks might is right.

duck.duck.go

someone is gonna discover the rate of acceleration due to gravity while falling out of a window

duck.duck.go

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494480#Comment_121494480

“now we are seeing lone Bradleys operating out in the open achieving hits against Russian but then getting knocked out”

Pity your alternate Russian reality doesn’t align with reality that happened to be captured on video showing that mythical Bradley destroying three Russian armoured vehicles

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1735292807911272723

victor8600

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494157#Comment_121494157

I have used the word hope deliberately. The day of the liberation of Ukraine will be most welcomed.

However, peace will not automatically happen on that day. Unless Putin is out, nothing prevents him from lobbing missiles and launching further attacks on Ukraine for many years in the future. He is personally safe while the war is going on. Ukraine will not be allowed to drive its tanks to Moscow to oust Putin. Therefore we can only hope that Russian people themselves remove Putin.

Gatling

Graham Dale by his co writer Neil Fetherstonhaugh

https://www.sundayworld.com/news/comment/graham-dale-the-man-i-knew-was-no-rambo-he-hated-injustice-and-bullies/a189693389.html

nickkohl

Ukraine has no air power to launch major offensive to begin with which is essential to soften Russian defense . What is achieved is the massive Russian casualties and military hardware. My friends have recently launched a nice project, here is the website https://cartodonate.com . Looks really nice and everyone can join.

duck.duck.go

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121494642#Comment_121494642

lol apparently it was a lot more than one question that got through the Kremlins reality distortion field

https://twitter.com/khodorkovsky_en/status/1735254584937885705?s=20

Strazdas

Great news for Ukraine and Moldova - most people were convinced Orban would succeed in blocking it

https://twitter.com/kajakallas/status/1735350586873188421

IdHidden

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121495909#Comment_121495909

https://www.rte.ie/news/ukraine/2023/1214/1421901-ukraine-russia-latest/

Big news, and great news for Ukrainian morale.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121495909#Comment_121495909

It can still be blocked at some stage, Moldova is a back water former Soviet state partially occupied and pretty much financially broke, it's going to take decades to come EU membership standards Along with Ukraine