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  • Registered Users Posts: 932 ✭✭✭snowstorm445


    It's incredible when you think of how much cross-party unity there was in the United States during the Cold War vs nowadays. Both Democrats and Republicans and basically anyone who wasn't a Communist agreed on the need to defend America's interests and to present a solid front against the Soviet Union abroad. Every President from Truman through to Bush Snr adhered to this. Kennedy famously telephoned Eisenhower for advice during the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    I know the current conflict is more fuzzy and less ideological. But it's clear that party matters more than the country nowadays in America. The Republican party in particular seem to the most pathetic load of navel-gazers the world has ever seen. Even in the face of the greatest threat to American security since 9/11, the thought of Trump offering insight to Biden even on minor details (he has met with Putin after all) is laughable. It's a country in permanent election mode, and the rest of the world is just a distraction.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    While not exactly one of my favorite nations, they recently did some invading themselves of Armenia, it's still good news.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    You can preload all the maps you like, but that's not how satnav works, which is by the reception of highly synced atomic clock precission signals from multiple satellites and using those to work out the position on the map from the travel time of the signals vs the known position of the satellites. Jamming or stopping signals from the satellites means your phone or GPS receiver won't be able to show where on the map you are.

    In other words, satnav does not rely on getting your location via mobile phone signals - they are just used to download a map, the positioning bit relies on being able to receive signals from satellites.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Most of the (initial) poor performance in WW2 was self-inflicted, and not a clever trick to lure enemies into attacking as was suggested earlier.

    Also, there is clearly too much information available in this conflict, and much of it is just propaganda. While I can't pretend that I don't enjoy seeing reports of Russian setbacks, it might be a good idea to remember the war has been going on for less than 72 hours.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Reports of desertions and Russian soldiers refusing to fight shouldn't surprise anyone. Many Russians regard Ukrainians as their friends and brothers and are probably completely bewildered at the instructions from their superiors to fight and kill them.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    Ah man. Obviously haven't had time to listen to that but listened to the first few seconds of his anti-vax video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKF8eI9QbIA how the West is going to follow New Zealand and Australia into totalitarianism. And that the US will crush any dissent within it's own borders using drones and annihilate them and everything they have



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    What exactly is he meant to be controlling?!?

    The US has a choice....they aren't even on the same continent...once again the be clear the country invaded isn't in NATO...the rest of Europe haven't provided any soldiers either in case you missed that...

    I would say the US have provided more than their fair share of military and financial aid versus other countries so far.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,460 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1497537193346220038.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1497537193346220038.html

    This may have been posted already , and there's obviously a fair bit of spin in it ...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭combat14


    serious news regarding swift and russian central bank assets ... if this is correct there could be chaos in russia as people try to get their money from banks as rouble plunges early next week...:


    this is rapidly turning into an economic war....


    Russia has become a “global economic and financial pariah”, a senior US administration official told the Guardian’s diplomatic editor Julian Borger.

    Speaking after western allies announced new financial measures against Russia, including the removal of some Russian banks from the Swift global payments network, the official said the measures were designed to target the Kremlin and individuals tied to the Russian government.



    They said that all 10 of Russia’s largest financial institutions had now been subjected to sanctions – “holding nearly 80% of the Russian banking sector’s total assets”.



    Russia has been reported to have $630bn in financial reserves stored abroad, in gold and cash, but the new sanctions would render that fund useless, the official said.


    “You heard about fortress Russia, the war chest of $630bn of foreign reserves,” they said.

    “It’s impressive, but it’s only impressive if Russia can use those reserves. And that means Russia has to be able to sell those reserves and buy rubles to support its currency. And so what we’re committing to do here is to disarm the central bank. And the way we can do that, for example, is by banning US, EU UK, persons from selling rubles to the Central Bank of Russia. That means very simply, the Russian Central Bank can’t support the ruble, full stop, and that means our sanctions will have much greater force.”

    The US official said the list of Russia banks to be removed from Swift will ultimately be decided by the EU, but said the US would “work very closely” with European countries “to finalize that list”.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,047 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Because they aren't as good at playing poker as Putin is.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Controlling whats going on in his own borders and whats happening in Europe.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Looks like British/Swedish NLAWs and US Javelins are doing their job well




  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32




  • Registered Users Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Hitler's generals first fed him self-defeating plans to invade France, deliberately. I have no idea how the Russian structure is, but perhaps the will isn't fully there with the generals in this situation. Plus any hardline leader will typically be surrounded by sycophants and yes-men, which ironically is often their biggest weak-spot.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭wandererz




  • Registered Users Posts: 18,516 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Even allowing for spin, there are probably large elements of truth in it. General consensus tonight seems to be that the invasion is going badly for Putin militarily and that he has taken on way more than he can chew.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    What is he not controlling in his own borders?...is this a different topic you are on again?

    Why should they be seen as having to "control" what is happening in Europe in a non NATO country? Team America World police isn't a documentary.

    They have provided more than their fair share of military and financial aid...no other country has stepped in with soldiers why would the US.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Would be nice, but that Nexta TV hasn't really had a lot of trustworthy information.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,407 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    This this conflict is also showing the changing face of war. Seems to be a real use of the ordinary soldier with a Jav or Stinger, etc. Tanks seem to be not very effective at all or just I'm only seeing a very limited footage from one side of a conflict. Which is also odd....


    Russia does not seem to be showing much of its own footage, like it did in Syria. Odd behaviour.

    All Eyes On Rafah



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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,659 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,173 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    One encouraging thing is that even though there are no NATO soldiers(at least none that we know of) in Ukraine there is a shed load of weaponry and munitions going in plus turkey and others ate closing off the black sea. And BTW if I haven't said it before fcuck putin!



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    Putin just wants a Russian puppet in Ukraine to keep Ukraine close to Russia. This invasion is a result of Zvelnyy basically blocking the pro Russian opposition (Putins friend). With Zvelnyy, he has no authority or influence in Ukraine. And Zvelnyy put sanctions on the chairman of the pro Russian opposition which started this whole troops along the border thing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,441 ✭✭✭jmreire


    You have seen the Russian Military in action in winter ( or summer time ) Donald, have you?? Even here, there are reports of vehs running out of fuel, and breaking down. And you can be damn sure that there has been "gelling or waxing" problems too. Well what ever about Napoleon, it was the Russian winter which played a massive part in the German defeat.....and they knew very well how to manage cold weather and vehicles too, even back then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,923 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe



    Ukrainian volunteers




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,669 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    True and I would say they are providing a serious amount of intelligence, satellite imaging etc. Germany sending weapons is hugely significant imo



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All plausible and inclined to agree with the gist, but what about the hundreds of people, not close to Putin, in the Russian miiltary whose job it is to think about logistics? What have they been doing the past few months? I'd love to think that they have sabotaged the mission deliberately. Maybe other posters are right and Russia is a paper tiger, militarily speaking.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,397 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump



    You're probably right. Those Russians who are well used to temperatures below -20 in their normal winter probably never came across those problems before. They should have used some fella from Athlone, or wherever you are, as a consultant to explain it to them beforehand.



  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What are the chances of any of the follow?

    1) Putin is genuinely surprised by the resistance and thought that Russia had much more support in Ukraine itself

    2) No-one is telling the truth and the Russian army is far smaller/less trained than assumed.

    3) Considering the corruption in industry in Russia, what are the chances that they've ripped themselves off and are worse off weapons-wise because of it?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Azerbaijan are a muslim country, and they hate Armenia who practically have a military alliance with Russia. So their main ally is Turkey.



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