Russia - threadbanned users in OP

FintanMcluskey

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770035#Comment_118770035

Do you know what the ratio is?

I would imagine the coal imports are much less than gas?

As in, has gas mostly replaced coal in power generation?

EltonJohn69

if putin is sick, maybe the plan is to take the world with him…..

Addmagnet

https://twitter.com/RobbySlowik/status/1501248222265843716

Boggles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118769979#Comment_118769979

Too simplistic.

Germany exports more to Russia than it imports.

Russia gets the vast majority of their drugs from Germany and France.

Medicaments are not a commodity you can just easily strike up a deal with elsewhere.

Crocodile Booze

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770058#Comment_118770058

He doesn't have a big red button that he controls by himself. A lot of people would have to agree to also kill themselves, their families and loved ones for one man.

Unlikely.

Amprodude

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118769747#Comment_118769747

A week is a long time in politics.

Wolf359f

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770054#Comment_118770054

I'm not sure on the breakdown.

But I'd suspect gas would be the highest %

Then gas and then coal.

Open to correction though, but most definitely Europe needs to be weaned off Russian energy, I don't think going cold turkey is possible. But hopefully as the weather warms up, there will be less gas and coal imported from Russia, so should hurt them more come summer.

Overheal

What continues to amaze me is that US Republicans seem hellbent that the US energy economy depend on US oil. It makes no god damn sense, when you consider that the US's enemies have far more proven reserves than we do - they want us to make an active choice to ultimately, remain dependent on other countries for oil. There's nothing independent about making the economy reliant on oil, even our own oil, especially when we have such limited amounts of it.

Danzy

What was a few years ago and what is Now are different things.

It was not that long ago that Ukraine was a net importer, it's farming destroyed by communism.

One of the great bread baskets of the world.

However that is no longer the case and between them they are about 30% of global barley and wheat and it is Russian fertilizer that drives European grain yields and wider European food production.

Personally I think food production and supply in the next 18 months is going to turn the world upside down.

Food production here is going to be drastically reduced this year.thats the same across Europe and a lot of the world. Already the list of food exporters who are not exporting grows .

People Go on about him letting off a small nuke. This is where the real damage will be, the real death and destruction and chaos and it is mostly centred on North Africa over to India.

cnocbui

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118769930#Comment_118769930

They used 142 BCM of gas in 2021. 39% comes from Russia. 1 BCM supposedly costs $100m, so I make it about $15.17m a day.

A lot of people can't get a handle on what exactly Russia is. And that's understandable because for us here in Western Europe we have had several generations of cultural and economic luxury. As someone said before, think back to 1950s Ireland.

Russia is a vast country. Places like Moscow and other big cities are culturally lightyears away from the villages and towns further east and north. Self sufficiency is still a way of life for many people, as it has been for generations.

Sorry to dissapoint anyone here who thinks the Russians will soon be eating dogs or trawling through trashcans, but the vast majority of Russians will be just fine.

Hobgoblin11

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770115#Comment_118770115

High fertilizer prices cause concern

Richard Hillman

Switzerland need to be put in their box. They can play ball with us or them, not both. And if they want to play ball with Russian finances, well don't let them export anything into the EU. I can live without a new Rolex and a toblerone.

They can't get away with the **** they pulled in WW2. It's pretty much the exact same stuff. They'll look after and safeguard Russian finances, like they did with the Nazi's.

Gatling

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770132#Comment_118770132

But large parts of the population are not self sufficient and happy to live off beets and bread

Amprodude

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118769979#Comment_118769979

It doesn't really.

Bayonet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770132#Comment_118770132

I've said this before, they won't collapse. But Russia's ability to execute and sustain war under crippling sanctions will be very curtailed. They may not starve, but their poor performing army will become even poorer.

TLP,

Your answer is that some Russians are living like 19th century serfs and will be fine. They are not the ones the sanctions will hurt most but what % of the 140m Russians make up this self sufficient population?

Are any of these happy go lucky people living in Moscow?

Bayonet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770142#Comment_118770142

They're still enjoying the ill gotten gains from Holocaust victims. Strange how most European countries were in recession and rations after the war, but Switzerland comes out sparkling. Pr*cks.

Danzy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770051#Comment_118770051

My worry is that either way they will stop food exports, either because of the political advantage it confers on them, the epoch defining damage to Europe or just because their country goes to Shi7 and they go back to the Soviet Socialist Republic achievement of having the most fertile soil in the world and still no food.

Frankly I'm not concerned about Russia having to eat boiled wheat for years, it's the vast no. globally who depend on their fertilizer and food.

We may yet regret not having made Ukraine a NATO line in the sand.

Strazdas

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770177#Comment_118770177

I saw a Russian analyst saying a default in 2022 would be three times worse than the 1998 one in terms of impact. I don't think they have any idea what is coming down the tracks.

Hobgoblin11

Turkey is moving its embassy in Kyiv to the city of Chernivtsi amid reports of a planned Russian assault on the Ukrainian capital, Foreign Ministry Spokesman Tanju Bilgic was quoted as saying by state media on Friday

Northernlily

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770072#Comment_118770072

Watch the Julia Loffe video posted above. She thinks differently. The men he has surrounded himself with are in utter fear of him. His power is absolute. There is not many that can intervene

Bayonet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770177#Comment_118770177

Had a friend who travelled by train through Russia in the 90s. He couldn't believe farmers were still using Oxen to plough the fields. Literally hadn't progressed in 100 years.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770196#Comment_118770196

Do we still have those? No time like the present...

DrumSteve

The thing is we will be OK here in Europe in terms of food (even if we're all going to go involuntarily gluten free for a while)

But the sub continent is fucked if they stop the grain exports.

Bayonet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770193#Comment_118770193

I read an article a couple of weeks ago but can't find it. They basically said the command structure is nowhere near like a western nuke nation. They said the "Kremlin has the final say". As in, they could advise him not to nuke, but he gets to decide.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770207#Comment_118770207

FSB proving their incompetence. They should have seen this coming and taken out Putin.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770132#Comment_118770132

Russia is a vast country, but most of it is sparsely populated. Something like 114 million of Russia's 140 million population live in European Russia, i.e. Russia west of the Urals. I'd be surprised if some Babushka out in some Russian village even knew a 'special military operation' was taking place. But in the larger cities and towns of Russia where people, especially younger people, suddenly find themselves cut off from the outside world - that may raise eyebrows. Most likely, everyone will be 'just fine' if 'just fine' means 'able to survive', but a lot of people in Russia have also become used to a standard of living slightly above that.

Not that Putin is overly worried about the little person. It will be the circle of Russian oligarchs who are relatively close to Putin and his 'allies' such as China concerned about their economic position in being associated with Putin and his war that will apply pressure to cease and desist.

Also, I think this concept that people in the West are weak from generations of luxury is fairly false. Even my own parents remember a time growing up that they had no electricity, raised their own livestock to eat and had no running water. We're not had several generations of cultural and economic luxury in this country at the very least, not by a long shot.

EltonJohn69

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770193#Comment_118770193

That’s actually the video that has me concerned.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118770213#Comment_118770213

I've been gluten free for just over a year. Has been transformative. 🙂