Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

timmyntc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505116#Comment_118505116

The opposition is growing within Austria to the proposed bill, politicians, doctors, the police, etc have all come out against it at organisational levels.

With the Czechs recently doing a 180 on their mandatory vax policy, it would be a surprise if Austria actually went through with it.

It's totally wrong.

The government eagerly awaiting discussions from NPHET who will allow us to do X or Y.

How I wish Michael Martin would evolve a spine.

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505287#Comment_118505287

Yep and could be a sting in the tail yet esp if NPHET get a bit sneaky about certain Establishments

We shall see

RayCon

What time are the leaks due at ?

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505206#Comment_118505206

Apart from that the likely outcome of Omicron makes it unnecessary.

daydorunrun

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505287#Comment_118505287

It was quite clear from a long time back that government are covering their own asses by deferring to the public health team- it's like a vaccine for themselves against any criticism down the line or a deeper investigation into how the pandemic has been handled. When the bones are being picked on this we will hear one term over and over- 'That was the public health advice at the time'.

Say what you like about Boris and the UK but when the new variant was discovered and they decided to reintroduce some restrictions like masks on kids in schools, they said they would not be in place for a day longer than necessary, they stuck to their word. I have more respect for that than our lot.

We so lack real leadership in this country. I think a pivotal moment was when Leo challenged NPHET and said none of them would lose wages because of lockdown- he was rebuked and his and the attitude of others changed to a very accepting one as regards all of NPHET's advice since then.

I'm hopeful that any announcement tomorrow will exceed expectations as I feel they need to start getting back on side with large portions of society and really justification for ALL restrictions has expired.

MOH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118503637#Comment_118503637

You do realise it takes at a week for any introduction/relaxation of restrictions to have an effect on the case numbers?

So a record high of cases two days after ending restrictions has absolutely nothing to do with that change.

MOH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118504574#Comment_118504574

How is a late license relevant? Standard pub license allows serving until 12.30 Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Has done for 20 years.

growleaves

Covid restrictions around the world are starting to be removed and expire. I wonder does this have something to do with the global economy and trying to put the inflation genie back in the bottle.

Replacing real economic activity with QE stimulus is perilous.

KanyeSouthEast

Just on the pointless masks. I think people will just have to grow a pair and just ignore the nonsense. Was in Costa this morning. Got my coffee masked sat down for an hour unmasked and watched people do the same before standing up to walk 10 yards to the door fully masked agin. It’s absolutely bonkers makes no sense at all. People are just going to have to say enough and start flouting this stupidity.

MilkyToast

I wear my mask in my pocket and put it on if anyone says anything.

Hardly anyone ever does.

PTH2009

Can we safely accept that the restrictions that we endured in Q1 and Q2 (and even parts of Q3) in 2021 were a waste of time and contributed to a few mental health issues

I know the vaccine rollout was taking place then but it was slow enough

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505549#Comment_118505549

Yeah I don't understand the 12 thing generally. As it's later opening Sunday night then we've seen for 20years. Or were pubs expected to close at old Sunday night time

Also I don't think Thursday is 12.30 usually?

TomsOnTheRoof

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505486#Comment_118505486

They've been covering their arses since their initial response two years ago which saw them put covid positive patients in care homes. 30 wrongful death suits and counting. There could well be criminal liability for what happened, although the usual "public policy grounds" defence will be trotted out. At the very least there is a very costly and very damaging tribunal coming down the line.

TalleyRand83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505486#Comment_118505486

Same here, I couldn't care less Boris attended an outdoor party for 20 mins. They were showing backbone before this "scandal" so not totally a reaction to it like a lot in Irish media claim

TalleyRand83

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505665#Comment_118505665

Never, because the virtuous rule abiders wouldn't accept that, they want their medals preserved

MOH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505704#Comment_118505704

Huh? Assuming "the 12 thing" follows the same format as previous restrictions, it's off the premises by midnight. That's not later, except for Sundays.

And it's an additional restriction on top of, not replacing, the existing licensing hours. So would still be 11.30 on Sundays.

(I was wrong on Thursdays - it was 12.30 in the 2000 Act I was looking at but brought back to 11.30 in 2003.)

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506204#Comment_118506204

Sorry I clarified Sunday above. Are you saying pubs didn't get longer on a Sunday and had to close at old Sunday time anyway?

Yeah just saw your edit. So 12 only effected Fri and sat as Mon thru Thurs worked out the same. And I thought they got longer sun, but maybe not.

Would be silly to start it again imo. Instead just go back to normal hours.

MOH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505982#Comment_118505982

Let's not forgot that when nursing homes were originally trying to restrict visits Tony Holohan insisted that was premature.

Sometimes I wonder how much of his hardline stance since has been trying (pointlessly) to make up for that.

Floppybits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506291#Comment_118506291

It has all been to make up for the absolute cock up made at the start especially when the moved the patients from the hospitals into nursing homes without testing them to see if they had covid first, after they had told Nursing homes that every patient would be tested before being transferred. There are few people who will be keeping their heads down about that if there is ever, and I hope there is, an investigation into it and anyone involved it that should lose their jobs and pensions.

Indestructable

Northern Ireland dropping Covid certs for most hospitality. We are a god damn joke if we don't do similar.

And table service gone and nightclubs reopening.

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506717#Comment_118506717

Yep true colours will show and that is 'NPHET don't like the Hospitality industry'

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118505665#Comment_118505665

The government were way too late in opening hospitality in the summer. It was completely OTT.

"NPHET is expected to give the go-ahead for hospitality to open for longer", I just head on the news.

Quick question: can anyone think of any other country in the world where the country and Government alike are awaiting to hear what we're allowed to do based on so-called health experts?

Where the hell are the 'government'? The clue is in the name.

Think of Scotland. Sturgeon just comes out and issues how the country will unlock. No big drama about what the health experts there say. Same with Boris; he just comes out and says what's going to happen.

Why is this country so obsessed with bureaucratic administrators?

It's infuriating!

PTH2009

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506781#Comment_118506781

Yeah its some farce and no journalist has the balls to ask why this is the case

brickster69

It's all getting exciting again isn't it, what time is the spineless wonder coming down the steps to make his big speech ?

I got a good feeling about this one you know !

bucketybuck

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506781#Comment_118506781

Its **** infuriating to hear talk about opening for "longer", and to hear people just accept it.

Even 12am curfew has a serious chilling effect on socialisation, it makes a bollocks of a night out so unless there is a solid rationale for having it then it needs to go.

And we all know there is no rationale for it, which is why up North and the UK all are reopening with no such limit imposed.

The only reason 12am closing would exist is because of NPHET playing silly buggers for their own ends.

is_that_so

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506926#Comment_118506926

Is this not the HSE text encouraging people to get boosted?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118506895#Comment_118506895

I'm dreading that.

I honestly don't think I can stomach to hear how great we are as a nation, how we pulled together to overcome the Omicold, and how better days are ahead.

God help us if he throws in another Seamus Heaney quote.

Cringe of the highest order.

(though I would watch it if, in WWE style, Holohan creeps up on Martin from behind during the speech and hits him in the back with a steel chair; "see you at Wrestlemania, Martin" kind of stuff).

bennyineire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118507059#Comment_118507059

Get or don't get, you know the risks by now. The fact you need a cardioversion would be reason to get it ASAP in my opinion. But that's your choice, no need to base it on getting a text however, it's not a conspiracy it's about public health