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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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    #3422
    [Deleted User]
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    Fils wrote: »
    We are as a country getting obsessed with indoor dining. Is anyone cooking some spuds and bacon anymore?


    Well it seems ridiculous looking at packed stadiums across Europe and cinemas open here, and yet we are the last country in Europe that still cant even have a coffee within a roof and walls. Dont forget, a lot of people can't provide outdoor facilities and with the weather the way it is today, how would you actually provide this facility??


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    #3423
    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    It's like I said before.
    If we had Italian summers, if we had reasonable prices and if we actually had an apt government then I think holidaying in Ireland would make perfect sense.
    But, we don't have Italian weather, we are a very expensive country for what you get and we've a government that struggles to be able to govern at the best of times.
    Cead mile failte.


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    #3424
    PTH2009
    Registered Users Posts: 38,312 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Its simply the fact is aren't been told why are we the outliners in all of Europe for the last year in a bit. One of the longest and in some areas the harshist lockdowns

    It's not about wanting to skull a few pints indoors


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    #3425
    naughtysmurf
    Registered Users Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭naughtysmurf


    aziz wrote: »
    And the amount of people drinking in the pubs have been dwindling for many years now
    Our pub culture will drastically change over the next 10 years or so.

    This could well be true, I also think that the publican who is expecting his business to return to pre COVID levels overnight could be in for a bit of a shock, it could be a long hard road for them

    I was in two pubs, one Saturday one Sunday, both have large covered outdoor areas , both serve food, they were both spectacularly unbusy, I appreciate that the weather was sh1te but was surprised all the same


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    #3426
    Fils
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Fils


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Well it seems ridiculous looking at packed stadiums across Europe and cinemas open here, and yet we are the last country in Europe that still cant even have a coffee within a roof and walls. Dont forget, a lot of people can't provide outdoor facilities and with the weather the way it is today, how would you actually provide this facility??

    Invite your friend around for coffee. That’s indoors.


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    #3427
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    naughtysmurf wrote: »
    This could well be true, I also think that the publican who is expecting his business to return to pre COVID levels overnight could be in for a bit of a shock, it could be a long hard road for them

    I was in two pubs, one Saturday one Sunday, both have large covered outdoor areas , both serve food, they were both spectacularly unbusy, I appreciate that the weather was sh1te but was surprised all the same

    It could be people being too cautious or people awaiting either a first or second dose before they decide to dine or drink out. The Delta variant has some spooked. Weither or not that is justified, time will tell.


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    #3428
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Its simply the fact is aren't been told why are we the outliners in all of Europe for the last year in a bit. One of the longest and in some areas the harshist lockdowns

    It's not about wanting to skull a few pints indoors


    This is a common retort from the cult of Nphet fanatics to try discredit the doubters as desperate alcoholics while lazily forgetting that there is other indoor pursuits and workplaces that are currently in operation at present such as factories and cinemas, and also that e have had one of the top three strictest lockdowns in the world alongside those bastions of freedom, Cuba and Eritrea.

    Also, probably something that has been also lost in the debate, covid 19 was proved to have been in Italy as early as September 2019

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-circulating-in-italy-as-early-as-september-2019-scientists-claim-12133825


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    #3429
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users Posts: 8,210 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Belgium’s pilot Eneas are a bit more ambitious.

    https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1411760374056095745?s=21

    None of these silly "pilot " events in the US, just completely normal events for months now. Guess the virus behaves differently here or something.


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    #3430
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    None of these silly "pilot " events in the US, just completely normal events for months now. Guess the virus behaves differently here or something.

    Well it knows when you have ordered a meal in a pub


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    #3431
    munster87
    Registered Users Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭munster87


    Fils wrote: »
    Invite your friend around for coffee. That’s indoors.

    Problem solved. Fair play. Sure why bother with this silly hospitality business at all in future.


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    #3432
    gozunda
    Registered Users Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Fils wrote: »
    Invite your friend around for coffee. That’s indoors.

    I think you're on to something there ;)


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    #3433
    Fils
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Fils


    munster87 wrote: »
    Problem solved. Fair play. Sure why bother with this silly hospitality business at all in future.

    You’d swear it was life or death stuff. Buy some bacon now tomorrow instead of that take away Americano.


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    #3434
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,309 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Fils wrote: »
    We are as a country getting obsessed with indoor dining. Is anyone cooking some spuds and bacon anymore?

    People want indoor drinking first and foremost.


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    #3435
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Fils wrote: »
    You’d swear it was life or death stuff. Buy some bacon now tomorrow instead of that take away Americano.

    Sure only a couple of jobs at stake


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    #3436
    munster87
    Registered Users Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭munster87


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Sure only a couple of jobs at stake

    You’d know their own isn’t


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    #3437
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,309 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    munster87 wrote: »
    You’d know their own isn’t

    A substantial minority of the country dislike and never go to pubs in this country anyway.

    Seeing people out drinking and socialising drives them mad at the best of times.


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    #3438
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    UK beginning to turn the corner. Could spell the end for Dr. Tony.


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    #3439
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    Well it knows when you have ordered a meal in a pub

    No it doesn't as you know. It's how we separate a pub from a restaurant, without banning consumption of alcohol on the premises (that would show a restaurant from a pub easily)

    The same lines get trotted out:
    Covid know's when you're less than 2 meters away.
    Covid is safe for 14 minutes but not after 15 mins etc...
    They are guidelines, people find loopholes to exploit them.

    How would you separate a pub from a restaurant?


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    #3440
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Leftwaffe wrote: »
    UK beginning to turn the corner. Could spell the end for Dr. Tony.

    Which corner?
    We've had so many we are going around in circles (squares)


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    #3441
    aziz
    Registered Users Posts: 737 ✭✭✭aziz


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    Which corner?
    We've had so many we are going around in circles (squares)

    I’m starting to feel dizzy from it all


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    #3442
    MOR316
    Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Meanwhile...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFID-GQDU1s


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    #3443
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Meanwhile...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFID-GQDU1s

    .... what's your take?
    We should make proof of vaccination a requirement for events like for that concert?


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    #3444
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,348 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    ‘We’re opening on July 5th no matter what’: restaurants fight back

    Who believes these guys?
    I'll go out on a limb here and predict none of them will be open tomorrow.


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    #3445
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,438 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    It could be people being too cautious or people awaiting either a first or second dose before they decide to dine or drink out.

    Or perhaps it could be:
    naughtysmurf wrote: »
    I appreciate that the weather was sh1te
    Outdoor dining not popular when the weather is ****e, who knew...


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    #3446
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    ‘We’re opening on July 5th no matter what’: restaurants fight back

    Who believes these guys?
    I'll go out on a limb here and predict none of them will be open tomorrow.

    Seen it before, the owner will tweet pics of happy customers.... a few hours later a guard will arrive and the owner will tweet, due to health a safety, we have decide to close in line with government guidelines etc...


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    #3447
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    ‘We’re opening on July 5th no matter what’: restaurants fight back

    Who believes these guys?
    I'll go out on a limb here and predict none of them will be open tomorrow.

    I'd say some will. Whether they remain open is another matter. That said, I am presuming that restaurants have closed indoors because of legislation rather than simply cooperation.


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    #3448
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users Posts: 5,804 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    bucketybuck wrote: »
    Or perhaps it could be:


    Outdoor dining not popular when the weather is ****e, who knew...

    If people are dying for a pint, they would have no issue sitting under parasol drinking. Smokers have endured the outdoor smoking areas for years. But even on the UK reddit group, in light of rising cases etc... you can see a few people saying they will be extra cautious until they get their second jab etc...


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    #3449
    [Deleted User]
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    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    ‘We’re opening on July 5th no matter what’: restaurants fight back

    Who believes these guys?
    I'll go out on a limb here and predict none of them will be open tomorrow.

    I believe there is a desire there, but there is no unity whatsoever. They need to unionise and defy. If a certain amount defys the government, it reaches critical mass and its game over government, and game over nphet.


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    #3450
    MOR316
    Registered Users Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    .... what's your take?
    We should make proof of vaccination a requirement for events like for that concert?

    It's a whole can of worms.

    That gig was for vaccinated people only (FF in MSG) but, I personally don't agree with it
    That farce in Dublin yesterday...Less said about it, the better. I don't wanna get over emotional.

    There was nothing stopping Ireland, having a proper test event yesterday. It was done for PR and press reasons, as you can see today in the papers. I have a mate who was there yesterday. His public opinion was the opposite as to what he told me.

    It was pathetic!

    If you want that sector to come back, you use real experiences to test it! You don't separate them like Donkeys! You learn nothing otherwise.

    It was a PR stunt...That message on the screen during it...They can go and **** off!! I'm disgusted and hurt

    You cannot do that to people who don't wish to take the vaccine or to people medically can't take it or people haven't been offered it.


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    #3451
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    Fils wrote: »
    Invite your friend around for coffee. That’s indoors.



    Oh ffs!!! That is the most lazy counterargument ive came across and the nphet fantasists have generated some gems to date


    Invite around for a coffee???? Id have to make it myself then. i want to pay for it, sit down and chat with my friend. I surely don't have to explain how the economy works to a grown adult? in case I do, my money and the money of other customers will help keep a business open and help keep someone in employment

    You are aware that we can actually go to the cinema and watch a long movie in an air-conditioned theatre yeah? So what is your rationale for keeping indoor dining shut for longer than it should be???? Come on now??? your the expert and we are the mere plebs, please flesh out your reasoning


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