Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

RobitTV

Normality is returning in England

https://twitter.com/ChrisArnoldInc/status/1409939773838536706

Beechwoodspark

namloc1980 wrote: »

Donnelly on RTE Radio 1 earlier confirmed NPHET are in charge of national policy. He said cabinet will go with NPHET recommendations because they are the experts. Dobbo did challenge him on the projections and Donnelly just repeated the line that NPHET are the experts and that's that. Tony and NPHET are firmly in control of the country at this point and it's pretty much undeniable.

Well isn’t that preferable to politicians “winging it” and just guessing what needs to be done?

NPHET are public health experts

The politicians are not.

HerrKapitan

ArthurDayne wrote: »

Apparently Micheál is going to be live on RTÉ momentarily so we shall see if he is subject a proper cross-examination or the polite and totally non-adversarial examination-in-chief we have come to expect from their presenters throughout the pandemic.

To congratulate the English team perhaps

MOH

Rjd2 wrote: »

They are fascists, no sane person wants to be in the presence of them no matter what their stance on lockdown is.

Fascists go around dressed in black telling people what to do, whereas ...

gozunda

Stheno wrote: »

It looks like the media are turning on the government

We might finally have a fourth estate

You may be correct. Its that time of the year when the media generally have fek all to report about. Now they're nearly finished making up click bait headlines - they're moving on to the next easy target ...

Beechwoodspark

Beirut wrote: »

They ruined the country before and now they are leading as it happens again. Am I wrong

Edit: Also, I never said anything about the opposition. I'm talking about fianna fail

And Fine Gael and the greens.

Varadkar is the real villain of the piece imho

namloc1980

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Well isn’t that preferable to politicians “winging it” and just guessing what needs to be done?

NPHET are public health experts

The politicians are not.

No I expect elected officials to question and challenge what they are being presented with before making massive decisions. Not act as a rubber stamping exercise for what is supposed to be only an advisory group.

facehugger99

Patrick2010 wrote: »

Just watching George Lee on RTÉ, when did he become a NPHet cheerleader? Realistically pubs and restaurants can write off opening this summer, it’s obvious Tony H is in charge. Government should be honest and say there’s no point in pretending it’s only a couple of weeks, it’ll be next year

About 15 months ago.

Beechwoodspark

namloc1980 wrote: »

No I expect elected officials to question and challenge what they are being presented with before making massive decisions. Not act as a rubber stamping exercise for what is supposed to be only an advisory group.

Sorry but do you realise NPHET are public health experts.

The politicians are certainly NOT

brickster69

HerrKapitan wrote: »

To congratulate the English team perhaps

Doubt that his bosses team got beat

Tenzor07

RobitTV wrote: »

Finally some TD's have found a bloody backbone...

If that's the strength of the "opposition" we're in worse trouble than we thought!

Usless Alan Kelly and "Bat sh*t Crazy" Healy-Rae, MMartin just laughs at them..


The Government now have to decide if it's "Vaccinated only" or keep the Hospitality industry closed into September which will be the end of most of them without more state borrowing to prop them up and pile it all onto the national debt..

Bricriu

Fils wrote: »

We just need to get everyone to hang tough for another few weeks. Nphet asks are small.

'hang tough' You sound like effin fascist supremo and ultimate control freak Eoghan Harris!

namloc1980

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Sorry but do you realise NPHET are public health experts.

The politicians are certainly NOT

Are you not reading the posts or something? The politicians job is to take account of the social, economic and other health implications of their decisions. Not just rubber stamp the narrow view of one group and to hell with every other consideration. Do you not understand this?

thebaz

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Well isn’t that preferable to politicians “winging it” and just guessing what needs to be done?

NPHET are public health experts
.

Experts predicting 2,000 could die by August, its scaremonging not rational advice . and the Irish public lap it up, whilst the rest of Europe and America open up, and live with the virus whilst the most vulbnerable are vaccinated.

Beechwoodspark

namloc1980 wrote: »

Are you not reading the posts or something? The politicians job is to take account of the social, economic and other health implications of their decisions. Not just rubber stamp the narrow view of one group and to hell with every other consideration. Do you not understand this?

You are naive if you don’t think the cabinet scrutinised the nphet report

namloc1980

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

You are naive if you don’t think the cabinet scrutinised the nphet report

They said they took what NPHET told them. Martin literally said that in his speech earlier. Are they lying now also?

Frozen Veg

We are at a critical stage in the fight against the virus.

namloc1980

Even the "optimistic" numbers in the NPHET model need serious scrutiny. 250 deaths and 80k+ cases in the next couple of months is the best case scenario.

munster87

Frozen Veg wrote: »

We are at a critical stage in the fight against the virus.

This time next year will be far more critical.

some.guy

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

You are naive if you don’t think the cabinet scrutinised the nphet report

I'm sure they scrutinized it like all the rest of us after they rubber stamped it.

sydthebeat

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Sorry but do you realise NPHET are public health experts.

The politicians are certainly NOT

Experts??

Have you SEEN the fcuking state of our health service??

Frozen Veg

Mind boggling that there has been no consideration of antigen tests. Granted they're not perfect but they would provide an extra layer of protection in addition to continuing vaccinations while allowing people and businesses to get back to a reasonable level of normality.

munster87

namloc1980 wrote: »

Even the "optimistic" numbers in the NPHET model need serious scrutiny. 250 deaths and 80k+ cases in the next couple of months is the best case scenario.

What are they saying deaths wise worst case??

jammiedodgers

AlekSmart wrote: »

Thank God for the CSO,so to the 8th January 2,096 deaths from Covid19. ?

Anything for Jan 8th to Date ?

Deaths up to 30th April were 4,622 in total. So 2,526 deaths from January - April 2021, not much further info because of the hack.

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries30/

some.guy

Frozen Veg wrote: »

We are at a critical stage in the fight against the virus.

What stage wasn't "critical"? People have been saying that ****e all throughout.

Beechwoodspark

sydthebeat wrote: »

Experts??

Have you SEEN the fcuking state of our health service??

Question for you

What does NPHET stand for

That will give you an idea of their expertise...

jammiedodgers

munster87 wrote: »

What are they saying deaths wise worst case??

2,170 deaths over July, August & September

PaulJoseph22

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Sorry but do you realise NPHET are public health experts.

The politicians are certainly NOT

Health experts..,,, really? Don’t give AZ to the over 60’s….. Give AZ to the over 60’s. Don’t give AZ or J&J to the under 50’s. Give AZ and J&J to the under 50’s….,

Frozen Veg

some.guy wrote: »

What stage wasn't "critical"? People have been saying that ****e all throughout.

We are all in this together.

Wash your hands.

Wear a mask.

namloc1980

munster87 wrote: »

What are they saying deaths wise worst case??

2,170 by the end of September. Madness.