US and Nato withdrawal from Afghanistan...- threadbanned users in OP

Channel 4 right now: (+1 in an hour)

New: Bin Laden: The Road to 9/11

jmreire

From France 24.

Ali Maisam Nazary, head of foreign relations at NRFA, said the Taliban’s claim of victory was false and opposition forces continued to fight.

“The NRF forces are present in all strategic positions across the valley to continue the fight,” he said on his Facebook page.

In a telephone interview with FRANCE 24’s Observers, Fahim Fetrat, a spokesman for the NRFA in the Panjshir Valley, said that the resistance fighters had come under “heavy attack” on Sunday night from “Taliban forces on the ground and Pakistani drones from the air”.

“It is true that the Taliban captured the main road and urban areas. But the Panjshiri resistance continues in the valleys around the main road,” he said, speaking in Dari.

“We are in a new phase of the war. We’re entering the guerilla warfare phase now,” Fetrat said, noting that this is not the first time the group maintains its resistance. “The same thing happened during the Soviet occupation in the 1980s and the war against the Taliban in the 1990s: the enemy captured the towns but we resisted in the mountains.”

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855754#Comment_117855754

So we are were we were 20 years ago?

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117854355#Comment_117854355

Not taking your bait Timberr, go peddle your wares to some one else who will engage with you.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855796#Comment_117855796

You made a false claim

I called you up on your false claim

You threw your toys out if the pram.

Not the first Time it's happened in the thread and I'm sure it won't be the last.

Dyr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117854355#Comment_117854355

Lets seek the opinion of someone who knows what he's talking about as opposed to some lad on boards that was in the TA or whatever the ****. 🤣

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEojm4uYZYk

jmreire

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855824#Comment_117855824

Not all of them Timberr...just you.

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855850#Comment_117855850

So the subject is "were aircraft used in this assault"?

You then post a video of a retired soldier who doesn't say anything about aircraft being used as if it's some sort of "gotcha" moment?

Go back to talking shite about the local village GAA team kiddo, you're embarrassing yourself here 🤣🤣🤣

Timberrrrrrrr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117855906#Comment_117855906

As I said you made false claims.

If the claims are not false then post your proof, if you don't post proof then that's evidence for all to see that your claims were false!

Beasty

jmreire and Timberrrrrrrr do not post in this thread again

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117845809#Comment_117845809

I expect a fair young wans from Hong Kong might find themselves mining in Afghanistan.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117853614#Comment_117853614

Ehh the Soviets had a lot of very good kit, the Hind (Mi-24) was wreaking havoc on Mujahideen until the yanks started giving them stingers.

The Soviets had Mig-21s and Mig-23s, Sukhoi Su-17s in Afghanistan because they lost some of them.

The Taliban have some Mi-35/Mi-24s, have Mi-8/Mi-17s, some blackhawks and MD 530s.

We are not sure how many of each they have.

The Mi-24/Mi-35 would be a proper gunship.

The fixed wing aircraft they have are Embraer Super Tucanos, Cessna C208s and a couple of C130s.

All turboprops nothing special, no jets.

The Super Tucanos had been used by the AAF to drop laser guided weapons agaist Taliban in the past, but again we don't know how many of the aircraft are flying, how many pilots they have willing and how much of the hi tech ordinance is still there.

So many questions and such a massive lack of information.

Any chance we could get Charlie Bird out of retirement and lob him into Afghanistan😀

Current main Guardian newspaper headline starts with:

Taliban name all-male cabinet...

🤣🤣

tara73

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117860899#Comment_117860899

they write it like everybody expected some women in it..🙄the whole article reads like some parody of a Simpson series... that they officially form a cabinet at all feels weird and ridiculous, the foreign minister wanted by the FBI...🤣 I have to laugh and at the same feel guilty because it's everything else than funny these monsters are in power.

silverharp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117860899#Comment_117860899

there are a couple of funny enough Taliban accounts on Twitter, they seem to enjoy making fun of these headlines. the idea th Guardian reporting would embarrass the Taliban is a hoot

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117860899#Comment_117860899

I wonder I wonder.

Might we (or rather Leo, Simon, and most especially Michael) solve a problem by sending Ms Zappone over there.

After all she wanted a special envoy role that dealt with Freedom of Opinion and Expression.

And she was a member of the Irish Human Rights Commission and chief executive of the National Women's Council of Ireland.

And she was fond of those young Afghan lads that were in Calais so maybe she has a soft spot for Afghanis.

Why not take on the challenge of lecturing those nice Taliban lads all about freedom, equality, LGBT, etc now that her work is done in little old Ireland.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117861099#Comment_117861099

Will the Americans recognise his diplomatic immunity as a Foreign Minister of a regime they did a deal with in Doha last year ?

Why do I keep thinking of Lethal Weapon.🤣

tara73

quote: Will the Americans recognise his diplomatic immunity as a Foreign Minister of a regime they did a deal with in Doha last year ?

highly possible I think..🤣 Seems to me the Taliban becoming socially acceptable these days, a day after the ending of the official air bridge the german foreign minister announced on the daily evening tv news the Taliban will get a few millions...(to get more people out). Found it very weird to announce this that officially from the foreign minister on tv...yes, do it if necessary to safe people but don't say it that openly on tv.

Are they becoming the 'new Saudis?' 🤣Pampered and untouchable..not that they are doing anything different than the Saudis regarding torturing women, minorities and all people with their own thinking anyway.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862246#Comment_117862246

Haha, would be hilarious to see her do her thing over there 🤣. Demanding the head of the Taliban declare his pro-nouns before their meetings start....

I would well understand if Charlie Bird demurred from taking up the offer to going to Afghanistan. He's earned enough respect to be excused I think.

I see the guardian headline is 'Taliban announce ALL MALE cabinet'

anyway here is a bit of insight into what was 'being done' in Afghanistan and where some money went

https://www.eip.org/vacancies/gender-expert-based-in-kabul-afghanistan/

A google of 'gender specialist - kabul' or 'afghanistan' is telling. I came across the notion while listening to a radio guest on Australian ABC radio who was introduced as an 'expert' who had been in country more than 10 years. After listening for a while it was clear this person was up in the clouds. Their role was revealed to be 'gender specialist'

'Know your enemy'

silverharp

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1429188218424078338

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862520#Comment_117862520

seems to be the goto

tara73

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862520#Comment_117862520

WTF???? Is this for real? It's exactly the job one poster suggested as a joke above...teaching the Taliban gender policy...position best placed with a woman probably they think...in Kabul...anyone with a tendency to masochism and like living in fear to dy a brutal death should apply...

Topgear on Dave

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862432#Comment_117862432

Am I the only one waiting for Mick Wallace and Clare Daly to turn up in Kabul? 🤣

Flinty997

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862819#Comment_117862819

Someone beat you to it...https://www.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/p50g9o/clare_daly_mick_wallace_spotted_on_al_jazeera_as/

notobtuse

So when the Afghanistan economy begins to stagger without the US, and with the Taliban in charge, cheap heroin, crystal meth, and opium is about to flood into Europe. And it almost seems Joe Biden purposely armed the Taliban and ISIS so in the future can tell our citizens people, and Europe being devastated by illicit drugs, that the US can’t possibly go back to Afghanistan and do anything because they’re now too well armed... So Europe, you're on your own.

Flinty997

I think all those issues already existed before the US left Afghanistan.

Kewreeuss

In an interview with the Australian broadcaster SBS, the deputy head of the Taliban’s cultural commission, Ahmadullah Wasiq, said women’s sport was considered neither appropriate nor necessary.

“I don’t think women will be allowed to play cricket because it is not necessary that women should play cricket,” Wasiq said. “In cricket, they might face a situation where their face and body will not be covered. Islam does not allow women to be seen like this.

im not surprised that women are not allowed play cricket and I don’t know if they are applying the same rules to other sport, but I wouldn’t be surprised on that score either. Apologies, all women’s sport will be banned.

What does surprise me is that he says it isn’t necessary for women to play cricket. Did he think about what he was going sto say? This naturally leads me to ask if it’s is a question of necessity, why is it necessary for men to play cricket. Wouldn’t they be better of studying the Koran, or saying their prayers, or setting up a veg plot and doing something useful?

wes

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117863834#Comment_117863834

Taliban are actively attacking ISIS, so I am not sure they will be a problem in Afghanistan. The leader of the Balochistan ISIS was killed in Afghanistan, the other day. The previous regime actually sheltered ISIS, even rescuing them from the Taliban at one point.

jmayo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862417#Comment_117862417

You know how people might say she lost her head ?

Well in this case it would be the truth as the Taliban would lob the head off her a minute after she opened her mouth.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117862782#Comment_117862782

OK it is only coincidental that the CIA would have the same ideas as me.

BTW that is the CIA, in Langley, Virginia.

Maybe if I say the words enough they will pick up this post and give me a job.

Has to have better health care plan than the one I have from my employer at the moment, which is none.

Now since I am coming up with ideas I am copyrighting one that the Taliban can use. Look I am open to all offers.

And it is how Afghanistan can compete in women's sport in future.

They can just enter men, who declare as women.

Problem solved. No women having to take part in sport, wear inappropriate clothing, etc.

And the big plus is Afghanistan's medal hopes drastically increase.

Gatling

Looks like China is planning to move into bagram airbase ,for both military and civilians to brought in to work on Chinese projects such as the new silk road and mines .

Bagram is huge ,I'd imagine China would need a pretty large military presence to guarantee they get what ever they want and their citizens would be safe .

RGARDINR

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117869398#Comment_117869398

Janey smart move by them. Sure will save them a ton of money to go in there now and not have to build it from ground up. Already there saving money.