Katherine Zappone Envoy Gig

Elmo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117870879#Comment_117870879

I think Ivana had a photo taken with Zappone and it might have been in the newspapers before the uproar. You are also suggesting that M. O'Callaghan may have been aware due to that soft interview she had with Zappone before the uproar?

Dempo1

Michael Mc Gratg repeating this argument that Coveney went before the FA committee twice as if Coveney is saintly.

What part of Coveney being forced to appear a second time to clarify answers he gave at his first appearance are FFG not getting 🧐

Muahahaha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117870391#Comment_117870391

Looks like you are wrong yet again becasue heres the FF think in happening now and it is being dominated by the Coveney cronyism issue. Both John McGuinness and Michael McGrath are now debating it on national radio.

The problem with constantly crying 'nothing to see here' is you end up looking rather silly when politicians themselves recognise that there is lots to see here.

Dempo1

FOI Breaches , deleted messages still not addressed another story in itself

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871374#Comment_117871374

Battle lines drawn on Claire Byrne...'look at themuns' seems to be the FF and FG response.

Nothing ever changes.

MBE220d

Guaranteed with all the huffing and puffing from FF not one of them will vote with the motion of no confidence, when McGuinness was asked on CB show how he would vote, he says he doesn't know yet, says it all.

FrancieBrady

Bottom line here and no matter what happens (I think the FF sheep will tow the line here ultimately btw) that is what the optics of all this will be, when the dust settles.

Optics that won't be dispelled and a reference to the now 2nd VONC's at election time will bring back how the wagons were circled to save FG ministers and who was leading the circling, the leader of FF.

https://twitter.com/ericeckhart/status/1436231119914024962

Muahahaha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871404#Comment_117871404

Well the lovely thing now is that FFG get to go back to the Dail and literally vote for corruption and cronyism and not holding politicians to account. The nation gets to see just how mediocre their standards are. Nothing ever changes for these two parties but what has changed is the Irish electorate themselves who are sick to the back teeth of cronyism.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871440#Comment_117871440

Jennifer Carroll O'Neill's claim that SF made them approve what they are now calling crony appointments to All Ireland Bodies is just peak Jennifer and FG.

Bizarre justifying. If they thought they were 'crony' they shouldn't as one of the governments approved them.

jammiedodgers

Worrying times when Pintman Paddy has been drawn out from his slumber. 😂

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871447#Comment_117871447

Did you hear the "chilling ' word thrown in for effect, just vomit inducing, she must think people are stupid.

Cluedo Monopoly

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871201#Comment_117871201

That motion is specified very well. The radio shows will be interesting over the weekend.

When is the actual vote?

JeffKenna

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871490#Comment_117871490

He's like a lovable rogue. Don't think he believes what he's saying most of the time 🤣

Dempo1

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin (Labour) on the weekly gathering shortly, will be intriguing what his thoughts are, we've not heard much form labour

Dempo1

He's confirmed labour supporting no confidence motion

Dempo1

Colm Brophy (FG) on now, insufferable buffoon ( is that sexist 🤔)

FrancieBrady

Nothing burger, nothing to see here, it's gone away story being discussed yet again on RTE's daytime flagship politics programme.

Dempo1

Colm thinks no one one believes Coveney should be dismissed 😳😳

Dempo1

Fight!!!!!

Dempo1

Colm brohy in a studio with 4 others, all agreed this is an issue, he's still in denial

Floppybits

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871507#Comment_117871507

Another FG rep using the "chilling" phrase again on Newstalk. Hmm wonder if they have been coached.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871741#Comment_117871741

It's their go to word to terrify the unsuspecting public (it's just tiresome at the stage) and I've absolutely no doubt FG reps coached in advance of any media appearances this week 😀

FrancieBrady

Could even our most imaginative writers invent a public rep like Colm Brophy if he didn't exist in real life? I mean, talk about making the work of Oliver Callan easy? 😁

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871762#Comment_117871762

Lol 🤣

Floppybits

Cullinane giving Johnathan Healy what for on Newstalk. :)

Dempo1

Colm Brophy is quite pathetic, childish, petulant, just awful, he's like the annoying school child throwing pencils, paper planes across the classroom at classmates seeking attention.

FrancieBrady

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871758#Comment_117871758

A couple of years ago the CS had to take measures to stop itself being used by FG:

Civil servants in Varadkar spin unit are warned against 'politics'

Jody Corcoran and Philip Ryan

November 19 2017 11:32 PM

Ireland's top civil servant has moved to make several changes to the operation of the Taoiseach's controversial communications unit after what he says are "understandable concerns" raised about its "political impartiality".

The development comes as it has emerged that Fine Gael TDs have criticised the Government for showing a "lack of empathy" on the homeless issue following widely criticised remarks made by Leo Varadkar last weekend.

This first indication of unhappiness in Fine Gael with Mr Varadkar's style of leadership follows a difficult week for the party, which saw the resignation of a national executive member for making derogatory online remarks about women.

Martin Fraser, the secretary- general to the Department of the Taoiseach, also outlined how he had taken a "number of measures" to "protect" the "core values" of the civil service within Leo Varadkar's new Strategic Communications Unit.

The most significant "clarification" is to broaden research into the public response to government initiatives away from "voters" aged 18 and over to include young people not yet entitled to vote. This is intended to minimise the possibility that research paid for by the State may be used for electoral purposes.

Mr Fraser has also met the unit's civil service staff to "reinforce the importance" of other measures, taken by him at the outset, of "maintaining our independence and political impartiality".

Staff at the unit have been instructed not to meet politically appointed special advisers and "on no account" to engage with "political party officials or activities".

In a letter to opposition leaders, Mr Fraser has also revealed that research, still being validated, indicates that €170m a year is being spent on communications across Government.

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871796#Comment_117871796

Astonishing

Dempo1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871783#Comment_117871783

Damn missing that 😁

J.O. Farmer

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117871741#Comment_117871741

Isn't chilling the sort of word used by tabloids when somebody is killed in some kind of horrific and violent way.

Has Miriam O'Callaghan suggested that Simon Coveny is going to be literally crucified over this (don't think she actually means executing him by nailing him to a cross though) or is anyone suggesting we take a leaf from North Korea's book and throw ministers to be eaten by wild dogs. Either of those would be chilling.

If neither of these things have happened is this not regular politics as it has been done since the beginning of the state.

Minister screws up, opposition put down motion of no confidence, government check if they have numbers and depending on the numbers the minister steps down as minister before the motion is debated but remains a TD or there's a debate and the government win the vote allowing the minister to stay on.

Maybe the thought of someone possibly losing mercs and perks is chilling to some though.