Apple to scan your iPhone for child porn

Blazer

Jesus Christ its firstly obvious that most posters here didn’t bother their asses reading the actual technical document or else didn’t understand it.

Ape are utilising the scanning software which will check the digital fingerprints of photos from a ‘KNOWN’ database of child pornography pictures.

Apple, Google and Facebook already access this database for online storage.

Now this process only happens when photo backup is enabled and takes place before the pictures are uploaded to iCloud.

Your baby bath pictures are fine because they won’t match the so called hashing value in their database.

People act like this is all new but all of this image scanning has been happening for years now for facial recognition particularly with Amazon.

It’s all part and parcel of the whole digital transformation the world is going through at the moment.

briany

We won't even need to wait for Gary Glitter to take his laptop into PC world in order to catch him next time.

Ozymandius2011

I recall in the 1990s a well known newsreader in the UK was subjected to an ordeal surrounding an investigation of a family photo, only to be cleared later on, but clearly traumatised by it. I support what Apple plans to do but its important the algorithm is accurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Somerville

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117715228#Comment_117715228

Quoting myself. Actually this isn’t totally correct. They look for digital fingerprints. This is different parts part of the image hashed, not all of it at once but probably multiple hashes per image meaning you don’t know what can be altered.

jmlad2020

13 year olds are sexting each other these days. Surely these young lads won't be arrested for having a few nudes on their phones.

The One Doctor

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117712885#Comment_117712885

The guards will have to have proof and the person would need to be convicted. Apple will only be informing authorities. Why be against the detection of peadophilia pornography? It's shared all over the world. Although most paedophiles just look on Facebook at pics of peoples kids nowadays.

pah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117721625#Comment_117721625

13 year olds sexting each other are technically committing an offence of production and distribution of child pornography

jmlad2020

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117722201#Comment_117722201

Is that right. How fascinating. They must deserve a prison sentence (or castration) then so.

riclad

To be accurate I think apple scans photos as they are being uploaded to icloud looking for hashs that match hashs of photos derived from illegal content eg if you do not choose to backup to icloud I don't think it will scan files on your phone

The problem is country's like Russia China or Hungary might ask apple to scan for content like free speech protest banners slogans or political lgbt content that is legal in western most country's

riclad

I think windows 10 sends alot of data to Microsoft which includes Edge browser browsing data or data on local pc files if optional data logging is enabled

RulesOfNature

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117721640#Comment_117721640

See that's where the dangerous logical fallacy comes in. If I'm against intrusive surveillance, that must mean I'm pro-pedophilia right?

I hope people have enough self awareness to see how easy it is to manipulate the narrative here. If you think this is about saving children, you fell for the propaganda. Remember the New Children's Hospital? IF you're against obvious scam and corruption that must mean you hate children right?

Invasive surveillance has not ONCE in history been used for the overall benefit of society.

The government does not give a f*ck about catching pedophiles, atleast not in any significant sense. As we've seen plenty of times, many pedophiles are in the government. And in many cases the government has helped cover them up (Catholic Church, Magdalene Laundries etc).

Now tell me, why would a private company like Apple suddenly care?

pah

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117722274#Comment_117722274

It is what it is, your suggestions seem a bit extreme however.

riclad

if they find bad content it will be reviewed by humans , eg to make sure its not an random photo, to verify its illegal content .eg the hash of the photos are checked to see if they match the hash of an image in a database of known illegal content.Apple also go along with the laws in china ,eg the cloud data of all chinese users is avaidable to the police . I don,t think apple care if you rip cds or put songs on your phone, their goal is to get you to sign up for apple music or apple tv services or other apps and music services since they get a 30 per cent cut of all subscriptions

i remember when the ipod was promoted steve jobs was encouraging people to rip music cds to mp3 format and put the files on an ipod

TomSweeney

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117722201#Comment_117722201

Crazy, I remember a case where a girl in the US was taking pics of herself and she and the people that received the pics were also charged.

I mean what next, a horny boy having a sneaky **** is technically abusing himself ?

riclad

the uk government wants to bring in laws to ban online legal content, if its shown to be upsetting to young people , a video review of a horror film or a documentary about drones being used to kill civilians in iraq could be banned in theory under this law.many governments are bringing in vague laws to censor online content. https://theconversation.com/planned-social-media-regulations-set-a-dangerous-precedent-155844 the details of the laws are not known yet maybe every uk website will have a button , click here to show you are 18 year or older .

patnor1011

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117714862#Comment_117714862

Really? I did not know they are looking just for large scale grow houses.

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about is used all too often in defending surveillance overreach. It's been debunked countless times in the past, but with the line being trotted out frequently mainly as justification for the many domestic spying programs in the Soviet Union, it remains the justification for similar programs in China, Singapore, Iran and other countries.

It should scare the shizz out of everyone that, after our parents and grandparents fought to end totalitarianism, my own generation is working hard to bring it all back and more.

If your so willing to give up your rights perhaps you should pack up your stuff and move to China where big brother is always watching. Perhaps then you would gain some insight in why our rights to privacy should be protected in the first place.

markw7

This is some scary shiz, nobody is going to go on record as saying they shouldn't do this as paedophilia is obviously one of if not the worst/sickest thing that we as a species can do to one another. Orwell must be vomiting in his grave.