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Dublin mother shares footage of offered council house

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭mondeo


    Why is she complaining? She is not paying for it is she ? What does she expect? A three bedroom house in Dublin 4 all paid for ye ? 13 years waiting doesn't entitle you to pick and choose your own place.

    I wish someone would give me a free gaff all paid for but I got a mortgage to deal with for a few years to come. Beggars cannot be choosers and that's the way it is. Be worse if she was stuck in a homeless shelter with her kids.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,653 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    This, if she closed her legs she wouldn't be in her situation, but it's everyone elses fault. I've worked all my life, earn too much to be on any "list" and not enough to afford anything half decent...and then you have her, gimme gimme gimme!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,428 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    I don't understand why she didn't posted how that offered place looks inside?

    Anyway, no sympathy for her at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    I’m not sure whether her legs are open or closed has any bearing on the point she is making that the council accommodation she is being offered is unsuitable for human habitation. It’s not so much gimme gimme either as the point being that the accommodation being offered by the council is simply unacceptable by any standards in the condition it’s in.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Except there's no proof it's unfit for habitation. If the actual apartment is in as awful condition as outside then yes, it's not fit to live in and she's right to turn it down and go public.


    But if it's a clean, liveable apartment? Who cares if the bin area or corridor is run down? It has pretty much no impact on your standard of living if your actual apartment is in good condition. There's a reason she didn't film inside the apartment, because it wouldn't fit her narrative.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    On the bright side at least she'd never get burgled.......glass half full post



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,360 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I like the way it was offered to her when she has "nearly 4 kids". Is she not sure?

    I really, really think we need to manage expectations of people in this Country who continue to have children without having the resources to house them in the way they would prefer.

    There are ways to avoid getting pregnant. Employing those methods is called personal responsibility. Those of us who have no kids and pay 40% of our earned income in taxes, social insurances and other State charges are utterly and entirely sick of making up the shortfall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,216 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    To paraphrase Oscar Wilde ...

    to have one baby may be an accident, to have two may be put down to carelessness ...

    I haven't a clue how he would phrase it for 3 and 4. 🙄

    I could say fook her, but ...


    BTW how come some stuff was brought across to new site but ignored list was not.

    Yet another migration fookup I guess.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,226 ✭✭✭SteM


    She made it very clear she wants a house with a garden and not an apartment. Seems like "gimme gimme" to me.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    That appears to be what she did though? She turned it down and went public, even with the knowledge of how other people were perceived when they went public and their lives were delved into and scrutinised to a degree on here that would make a social welfare inspector blush 😂

    The exterior of the premises and the surrounding areas do of course have an impact on anyone’s quality of life and their health, and just from the video alone there are a number of safety hazards which the council are entirely responsible for, no matter who the accommodation is being provided for.

    Frankly for all the complaining about how much it costs to accommodate people, I don’t think it’s at all productive to target individuals who aren’t responsible for the accommodation being offered. I hold the council responsible and the likes of DHRE responsible when they’re being funded to the tune of over €100m per annum!



    That’s far more worthy of the investigative skills of people on here who are wondering where successive Governments are spending public funds and it appears as though from the state of that shìthole and the condition it’s in, it does give rise to the question of where the fcuk is the money being spent?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,349 ✭✭✭archfi


    I can't see the video but from what others say here, it's external only and places where 'kippy' status are more likely to be deployed, undergropund carpark, bin section. They shouldn't be like that, but some people are fcking animals.

    There's a convenience store, 2 x takeaways, a chemist and a hairdressers, bus stops a few yards away in/out, a community centre, what looks like a church and/or school, a pub and a park. Anywhere, any location I wouldn't like being directly above a row of shops/pub for sure but that is not a valid excuse when you are relying on the state to house you.

    Anyone using the phrase 'forever home' should be laughed at on sight, yer one complaining included. Rampant anti-social/drugs behaviour, no amenities, no secure access/ security measures to an apt building, disgusting living conditions inside are valid concerns - not that you want a garden.

    A thing isn't what it says it is.

    A thing is what it does.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Yellow_Fern


    Dampness is a recurring complaint in these cases but mostly it caused by tenants not opening their windows. If the council does anything, it will probably just install hole-in-the-vents which will leave a draught. So it is a very unnecessary reason to complain.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,039 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Why are people getting so animated about the lifestyle of a woman and four kids who haven’t a pot to p1ss in

    I wouldn’t say it’s much of a life compared to the majority of yours or mine



  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So you're telling me a cracked or missing tile makes a house not fit for human habitation? Also, the property in OP is not fit for human habitation because there are bins and graffiti? Have you ever left your house?


    You're obviously trolling so I'll just ignore you now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭Jeremy Sproket


    Keep your knees together until you can afford to house yourself.

    Your house is courtesy of most working men and women, the only time you ever lifted a finger is to fill out the single mothers allowance form. We need to stop paying people to spawn.



  • Posts: 14,266 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In relation to your last paragraph, as controversial as it may sound, I don't agree that those are reasons someone on a housing list should be allowed to use to get out of a crappy house being given to them.


    These places exist (and are usually in high-council-concentration areas) and people DO already live in them, so for someone who's expecting to have a house supplied and do nothing in return to earn it, they should be given no choice in the areas. It should be very clear; you get what you're given.


    There are people who are trying to get a handle on things and sort their lives out by getting a job, going to work, contributing to society and the economy. Lumping themselves with 30+ years of debt to repay, having to get out of bed each day, working full time jobs just to put a roof over their head, and making sure they keep working or they may well lose that very house. Someone who wants to ride a load of fellas and spend their days in bed counting their dole money shouldn't be considered equal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,578 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    What ever happened to "her body her choice?". Never fails to astound me how the 'wokerati' suddenly fall-in to the right of Genghis Khan when these sort of stories emerge.

    Sorry if three years of Uni and a five more years of a career working in an American IT company didn't financially entitle you to a house. Them's the breaks. You can't be a weekend Socialist and a weekday Capitalist.

    I'm old enough to remember the tenement slums in Dublin in the 70's. Maybe the Catholic Church can provide facilities for such woman, perhaps where they earn their keep working in some sort of...laundry?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 niallo93


    Place looks like terrible in fairness and surprised council can give a property above a pub, but on council list 13 years but seen a post shared with her kids wearing real Canada goose jackets.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Wow. That place is truly disgusting. I wouldn't blame anyone for turning it down.

    I think the County Council have an awful cheek offering a place in such awful condition. Those floorboards look dangerous and that basement and bins must be full of rats.

    They should at least provide accommodation that is clean (exterior and interior) and up to the the same standard as they expect from landlords who rent their properties to HAP tenants.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    99 times out of 100 the term forever home is used by people giving out about dolers (or suspected dolers) and they probably aren't much use themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    And We the tax payers will continue to foot the bill for her lifestyle choices till she gets another choice for her and fella mark from finglas (apparently) ,

    It doesn't look great but most social housing apartment blocks don't ,but yet many people are living there a few years and haven't run away from the apartments ,what does she expect for paying little rent in return for her lifestyle to be be provided for ,who cares what the under ground carpark looks like , typical entited person living off others ,want ,want,want



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    Their accommodation certainly is not courtesy of any working men and women, wherever you got that idea. It’s provided by the council who have a responsibility to accommodate people with accommodation needs, and it’s the responsibility of the council if they own the property to ensure it is up to standards. In this particular case, the accommodation falls far short of health and safety standards which are not the tenants responsibility, they are the responsibility of the council.

    Nobody is paying anyone to spawn either. They are entitled to the same social protections as anyone in Irish society is entitled to. That’s the responsibility of the State and Government on behalf of the State, to ensure that social protection standards don’t end up with people being forced to live in squalor. It’s not healthy for anyone, let alone children, to be forced to live in those conditions.

    You’re wasting your time targeting individuals who are not responsible for the issues created by successive Governments failed leadership and the organisations which are keeping themselves in employment by ensuring that the situation only continues to worsen to the point where accommodation like that is deemed suitable for anyone. People being expected to live in squalor are right to highlight the fact that there’s hundreds of millions of euro being wasted with nothing to show for it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,760 ✭✭✭dudley72


    Another example of why children allowance should be capped at a certain number of kids. You will also find that her “forever home” will have a wasted “Daddy” who never worked in his life either



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,993 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Their accommodation certainly is not courtesy of any working men and women

    Where do you think the money comes from?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,108 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    If the lady had no children she would be offered nothing. Join the dots.

    But having four kids without suitable housing is a joke these days. I often wonder why they do it again and again. Can't be just for the child allowance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack



    From the Exchequer if you want to work it right back to where it actually comes from. Nobody gets to decide where Government chooses to spend it’s revenue, so anyone who is of the idea that anyone is provided with accommodation courtesy of working men and women is simply deluding themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,360 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    So irrespective of whether of not us taxpayers get to decide where every penny goes, you're denying that the exchequer is a fund filled by every person who pays a tax?

    You might want to reassess who is deluded.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The council's steel security window shutters and door that they put up between tenants are still up on the apartment, so she mustn't have had access to the inside.

    Looks like someone has tried to gain entry, though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭mojesius


    She mentioned how 'heartbroken' the kids were over this. Pulling the heart strings as usual with zero personal responsibility. If your kids are that disappointed, get up off your hole and get qualified, get a job. Be a shining example that they can look up to by striving for a better life for your family instead of sitting there moaning with your hand out playing the victim, expecting 'de council' to sort your affairs out.



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