Solheim Cup 2021

big_drive

Stupid rule, ball was never going in. But I would say by letter of law it was a correct call.

Mushy

Must say, away from the call, some outrageous golf being played. Particularly putts

Scrabbel

The outer edge of the ball was just inside the line of the cup. But quite doubtful that any part of the base of the ball was overhanging; we just don’t have a hi-def enough view to see that. But Sagstrom should never have rushed to pick up tge ball - made it look as if she thought there was a chance it might move. Korda obviously wasn't thinking that though.

blackcard

Greetings at the end of that match were restrained

AdamD

Not sure why Sky only seem willing to show 1 match per hour

blackcard

Was never going to go into the hole but technically correct

Joe_ Public

Georgia Hall is quality. Wonder will we see them together again tomorrow, maybe in afternoon again?

Great days golf, think it was 6 out of 8 matches went to 18th.

Correction: it was 7 out of 8!

Larbre34

So proud of Leona, ice water in the veins. Great bit of matchplay all around today from Europe, put the American big guns in the back phóca all day. Let's hope the momentum keeps going.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848111#Comment_117848111

Common sense should prevail and no ref make a call like that.

Not blaming the US players, but if thinking clear they might have called it an accepted gimme and the hole tied.

The ball had zero chance of dropping.

Rikand

The post match interview was awful though. Sagstrom talking about the abuse she got from the crowd for picking up the ball was horrible.

I never knew about that rule in matchplay myself. I'm pretty sure in matches if my opponents ball has died on the lip, I've been straight over to pick it up to concede the putt. You learn something new every day

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117847977#Comment_117847977

You don't know that for sure, it was very close. There's no excuse for not knowing the rule. As soon as I saw it I knew there would be trouble was a silly thing to do and has cost her team on the scoreboard.

Panrich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848242#Comment_117848242

Played very well on her debut and made some great putts. That putt on 18 in the foursomes was real pressure.

I did think she seemed to run out of gas towards the end of the fourball so it will be interesting to see if she is rested this morning.

Xander10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848552#Comment_117848552

She was great in the foresomes in particular, a format that doesn't suit everyone, so I would be giving her the afternoon off and hopefully the leaderboard will be still ticking along nicely by then.

Mantis Toboggan

Draw for the morning.

Joe_ Public

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848549#Comment_117848549

The lads on sky comm were actually laughing and joking about it as it happened, how quick she was to step in to pick up the ball. "Ooh, she's not hanging about there, is she?" "You can have that one" etc.

I do feel sympathy for her. But letter of the law, as someone said earlier. She made a judgement about the situation that wasn't really hers to make and earned a very harsh lesson.

Joe_ Public

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848574#Comment_117848574

Thought she might get a rest in the morning but great she's out again. Another tough one, but all the pressure on the home pairing.

AdamD

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848549#Comment_117848549

Ah come on. We do know for sure. That ball was never going in the hole. Look at the picture for god sake, you'd need to change the laws of physics for that to drop.

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848820#Comment_117848820

Regardless even if its only 1% chance, we've all seen putts stay on the lip and drop in. She only had to wait 3 more seconds. She obviously thought there was a chance why else would she rush in it was a very odd thing to do.

Tough lesson to learn. You really should never be touching an opponents ball in matchplay.

blackcard

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848836#Comment_117848836

In fairness, there was zero % chance of the ball going into the hole. Physics doesn't work like that

Panrich

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848844#Comment_117848844

I agree that there was 0% chance of the ball dropping but 100% chance that she broke the rule. It was a tough break but whether or not the ball was ever going to fall was not going to get her off. It was judged to be overhanging the edge if the cup so she had to allow for that by waiting for 10 seconds.

There are many rules in golf where the punishment doesn’t fit the crime and this is just another.

Rikand

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848844#Comment_117848844

Well, I suppose an over zealous greenskeeper, looking to clear out the local gopher population could lace the course with dynamite and in that 3 second window that remained, he could have set off the explosions that would have rocked the course and triggered the ball to fall in the hole

Joe_ Public

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848863#Comment_117848863

That's absolutely it, 100%. You'd swear the way people are talking, sagstrom had broken no rule at all. Whether it might have dropped or not is incidental to that fact. Tough break, but that's the bottom line here.

Mushy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848836#Comment_117848836

They were on the clock so better to be keeping moving than flailing on the ground. No part of that ball was close to falling when it came to a full stop

Mantis Toboggan

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117848895#Comment_117848895

Possibly but you cant just decide to break the rules because you're on the clock, 3 seconds isn't going to make much difference!

Rikand

There was no intent to break the rules though. I dont even think they knew what the rules were. And it was obvious from the reactions of the American pairing at the time on the green that they didnt know either. The Europeans conceded the putt, the americans accepted it and then the referees stepped in.

There was no intent to break the rule, but a rule was broken. It should be shelved at this point

Mantis Toboggan

Anyway should give the Europeans an edge going into today no doubt they feel aggrieved.

Joe_ Public

This is a brilliant start from Maguire. Apart from missing fairway off the first, she's hit some fantastic shots since, particularly that fairway wood form the rough on the 2nd. Hopefully can keep this standard going.

Joe_ Public

And Nelly blades it from the bunker on 4! Not something you expect to see. Gonna be 3 up there in a minute or 2.

Mushy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117849374#Comment_117849374

And 4 up after the par 3 5th, maguire great shot in and finished off by Reid

Joe_ Public

A duff chip from Korda on the 9th, back to Europe 4 up. Nelly having a bit of a mare this morning, but she's being put under huge pressure by the sheer solidity of Leona and Reid.