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    #92
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,971 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117897053#Comment_117897053

    Seeing as you are in favour of "assisted passage" would you be in favour of assisted passage for those people in Donegal whose houses have crumbled with Mica to be resettled in existing State housing elsewhere if they are not happy with the redress scheme? Or does the idea of "assisted passage" only apply to those you don't like?

    How about "assisted passage" for the homeless in Dublin? What about the people who want to give "assisted passage" to refugees back to where they came from? Do you support that "assisted passage"?



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    Danzy
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    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117887898#Comment_117887898

    Why have Unionists made themselves 2nd class citizens in the eyes of their own country.


    The challenge for Unionists now is having Tory MPs tell em to "mind your own business Paddy".


    In the Conservative party today Unionists are no longer viewed as British or any thing to do with Britain by a majority. It's considered absurd in fact and the cabinet act on that.


    The hostile forces that Unionists must contend with now are not on this island but in Government in London.

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    #94
    Danzy
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    The British identify in Ireland will only be protected in Belfast or Dublin.


    It will not be entertained in London.


    That's the key new development in politics.

    As for Unionists going over on an East bound boat, would they be welcome? Hard to see that.



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    #95
    skimpydoo
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    Anyone from a protestant/unionist background who moves to mainland UK get a shock. They are called Irish and its not something that they would call themselves.



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    #96
    dublinman1990
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    I would be really confused as to how Northern Irish Unionists can than move over to England permanently in the future if they are not happy with the terms set out by the GFA here in Ireland. Imagine if Scotland & Wales became independent countries while splitting up from the UK by becoming part of the EU. How many of those NI Unionists would be uncomfortable with these ideals being imposed on them when they don't want them in the first place?

    If the Tory party of today based in England don't recognize NI Unionists as being British by a majority; the unionists would have a very hard time in political terms to have any real influence there if they have the gumption & bravado to run for elections for their constituents on a completely British agenda. I think the level of influence they would give to the British public would be the exact same as every other Irish citizen from the ROI who currently lives in England by voting for MP's that will match their political values in a GE in Westminster. The NI Unionists must also recognize that Irish citizens who are from the ROI currently living in the UK today did not get any form of financial compensation from their own government when they moved over from Ireland to the UK. If the topic of financial compensation came up for unionists, either under the terms of the GFA or not, who want to move over from Ireland to the UK in the future. It would only probably apply to a small subset of them who live here who are not really happy with the future terms while staying here in Ireland.

    If anyone from the UVF/UDA were not happy with the terms of a UI being imposed on them & they permanently moved over to England; would Boris Johnson's government in London put in an official government intervention to not allow that to happen given that police surveillance resources may become a big issue there in the future?



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