Is Ireland On The Verge Of Becoming a Marxist State

hawley

We are beginning to see more and more hate directed at the ruling classes. The disintegration of centrist politics, more people dependent on the state, categorizing groups into different identities. Will we see US multinationals abandon this country? China is quite a successful country, but it's difficult to see how we would adjust to Socialism.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/opinion/public-being-kept-in-the-dark-about-the-true-nature-of-sinn-f%25C3%25A9in-1.4430965%3fmode=amp

Mad_maxx

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Well as a people we have always been instinctively statist but have turned even sharper leftwards this past few years

Victor

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If you keep saying it enough, it might happen.

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We're about as close to being a Marxist state as we are to being ruled by the rules of Fight Club.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117950922#Comment_117950922

Don't talk about Fight Club.😉

osarusan

What a load of shyte.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058210845/is-ireland-on-the-verge-of-becoming-a-marxist-state

No. Stupid question.

Thelonious Monk

Hopefully, my dream come true. Government issued food and clothing and stints working on farms and in factories. The dream.

TheValeyard

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For Forks Sake

Who let John Waters in here?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117951181#Comment_117951181

Nothing stopping ya getting some hard work in now.

Strumms

Considering the number of quite right wing politicians who have attained the position of Taoiseach and in government id say no...

There is a growth in support for the further left but it is at the expense of the center left... Labour are nowhere.... not attracting votes, loosing respected stalwarts like Bree and Shorthall...

Up At Fleecies

Right enough of the trolling threads Hawley, Ireland isn't perfect, nowhere is, but it does 99.9% of us just fine. The good news here is, if Ireland isn't up got your standards, whether it was a boat or plane that brought you here from the UK, both modes of transportation operate in either direction.

Let us know how you get on back home with Brexit etc.

Yours etc etc, the rest of Ireland.

francois

Not sure if serious or

Billy Mays

Knew who the op was gonna be before I opened the thread 😎

elperello

Not in your lifetime.

knipex

Marxist ? Unlikely

Socialist ? In comparison to the US ? Rabidly so. In comparison to our European neighbors ? In some ways yes in some ways less so.

However any claim that Ireland has had right wing goverment, particulary in the last 50 years is demonstrably nonsense.

Traditionally Ireland has been centre left, we have undoubtadly moved more to the left in recent years but marxist no.

We have unfortunately in seen a growth of the hard left and the hard right. You can see a number of fringe groups on both sides, those on the loony right get more attention but those on the looney left also exist. If you look hard enough (and it not very hard) there is a small, (terrifing but small) hard core right wing, neo nazi, holocaust denying, white supremacist, Ireland for the irish movement in Ireland. From what I can see its hundreds of real extremist, and a few thousand less extreme hanger onners.

Hard left similar perhaps slightly higher hard core but a larger group of less extreme hangers on. Both groups are in a tiny minority..

Shoog

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That fabled species, an Irish Libertarian 🤣

I'd say we're minutes away from going full Marxist revolution, OP. Hold on to your hat!

riclad

this is happening in the uk ,usa,ireland, house prices are going up, earnings are not growing at a similar pace, if a car goes at 80mph, and you can run at 15mph you,ll never catch the car .So gen z is really screwed, it used to be a deal, go to school,study,go to college, get a good job, maybe a degree, buy a house.when most young people live at home or live in mediocre rental units its a disaster for social and political stability.That contract now longer exists now most young people may never be able to buy a house, when a basic house is 400k. so young people are becoming more left wing or more angry or less likely to vote for fianna fail or fine gael, when both partys are broadly middle of the road,free market , mayeb fine gael is more liberal and less republican.also people under 25 dont remember the ira, bombs going off, the troubles ,hunger strikes,bobby sands .the see sinn fein as a basic socialist /marxist party .

ireland is a liberal capitalist country which provides a low tax for google,facebook etc

Also gen z is the generation that will be mostly effected by climate change ,global warming ,the basic capitalistic system has no answer to climate change apart from asking for more tax breaks to maybe even consider switching over to more green energy sources .

Yurt2

Dibs on party commissar at the work unit in Sector 7 national tractor factory. Parasitical workers can go to hell, we meet our 5 year plan quota or no grain for anyone.

hawley

Class struggle: we are definitely seeing more politicized young cohort from the lower classes. We have more low class politicians from Sinn Fein and other urban parties than ever before. There's huge anger at the top people, calling them the landlord class. We will see a left wing government in place after the next election. Internationalism; Sinn Fein and Michael Higgins lauding Communist regimes such as Cuba and Venezuela. Higgins visited a Marxist revolutionary's grave in Italy on his visit there. Removal of Religion from society: One of the key tenets of Marxism. They regard it as a way in which the elite controlled the masses. We are seeing the removal of church from society. Sinn Fein are an aggressively anti-clerical party. Appeals to younger voters who are brought up to hate Catholic church.

https://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/50716

Yurt2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117952092#Comment_117952092

Leaving aside the rest of the hyperbolic charges in your post, if you're referring to Higgins' visit to Gramsci's grave, reducing him to a mere 'Marxist revolutionary' as if he was nothing more than a rabble-rouser with facial hair and a revolver is a display of anti-intellectualism worthy of the worst populist. He was a giant of European thought in the 20th century (as well as one of the brave few that faced down fascism when it was in its infancy and he recognized it for the danger to Europe that it was). People use language and conceptualizations shaped by him without even realizing it - and I'm talking about people across the political spectrum. Having a pop at the President for visiting his grave is silly billy stuff and speaks to your politics more than his.

Ten of Swords

Yes, the Marxism will begin imminently

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