"Green" policies are destroying this country

?Cee?view

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629607#Comment_121629607

I’m saying neither.

I am intimating that those who indulge in such mental gymnastics probably have too much time on their hands and aren’t to be taken too seriously. They’ve confused socialist ideology with green dogmatism and ended up with a dog’s dinner.

The J Stands for Jay

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121630648#Comment_121630648

As a motorist, people who think they own part of the road outside their house are really annoying. **** off and buy your own parking space, loser.

?Cee?view

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121631117#Comment_121631117

That’s entirely different! Agree 100%

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121630614#Comment_121630614

Most bikes sold in Ireland and EU wide are manufactured by contract manufacturers in China, Taiwan or other South East Asian countries. European brands simply do final customization (depends on markup), before shipping it to the end customer. Bicycles are a product of the industrial revolution, they can't be made without heavy industry (Rubber, Oil, Steel, Aluminium, Carbon fiber, batteries (e-bikes)), even specialist cycling clothing and helmets are derived from oil based chemicals.

RobbingBandit

Last time I'm posting in this thread, feels good to have beaten Fox News your source for evil to the punch on this one.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/irish-climate-minister-greets-chinese-premier-who-arrived-record-size-plane-dublin-airport

bluedex

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629397#Comment_121629397

Sorry yeah meant TV. Never visit their website.

elperello

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121633963#Comment_121633963

OK no problem.

They covered it a couple of times on the website.

There was a short piece on the 6 o'clock News and a report on CountryWide which is an RTE radio programme popular with farmers.

There was no attempt by RTE to downplay the protests.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121629681#Comment_121629681

Germany is cutting €45 Billion from their Climate and Transformation Fund over the next 3 years. €12 Billion of that this year. Their economy shrank by over one trillion euro in 2023.

RTE has an economist masquerading as their Environment Correspondent whose contribution is nothing more than sitting in news studio looking like a ventriloquist`s dummy with a pained constipated look on his face regurgitating green party and their pet NGO`s press releases.

As a supposedly independent public broadcaster hansomely funded by the Irish tax payers the country would be better served by RTE using him in the area he actually has a qualification in, economics, taking a look at where this green revolution has brought Germany and by extension, due to their past economic clout, the E.U. It`s not as if it would require a heavy investment. He could do it from a desk in Montrose.

With all we have seen happening in Germany, (very little of it from RTE), you would wonder why our brave independent taxpayer funded public broadcaster has shied away from doing just that. But then with Eamon Ryan being Minister for Communications, and Catherine Martin the Media Minister and controller of the purse strings not upsetting them looks to be RTE`s priority.

roosterman71

The sooner the offshore wind and hydrogen is in place the better so we have less of these "events"*

* not be a serious comment

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635063#Comment_121635063

18 January 2024

Sunset - 4:41PM Solar gone to bed for the night.

Wind speed - not too many revolution on the wind turbines.

Temperatures - Need the heating on.

electricity demand: peaked at ~6979 MW yesterday, expect similar today

charlie14

For some who may still believe you can plant a wind turbine, (in an environment that has turned anything we have ever placed in it to mush), will have a lifespan of 28 years,

Equinor the operator of the Hywind Scotland offshore floating wind farm, in operation for just 6 years, announced 3 days ago that the turbines will be towed to Norway for "heavy maintanance" which cannot be done safely in situ and will be offline for 3 - 4 months.

Wanderer78

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635514#Comment_121635514

...yup, sh1t breaks, and sometimes unexpectedly, strange fact alright, and if you think fossil fuel tech never broke unexpectedly,........

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635063#Comment_121635063

How about we suspend the luas and dart and shut down all ev chargers during this period so ordinary folk can cook their evening dinner when they want to? Why does the green revolution treat households withcsuch disdain?

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121635623#Comment_121635623

So you believe that not just one of these floating wind turbines but all of them, that now have to be towed from Hywind in Scotland to Wergeland in Norway after just 6 years into a supposedly 28 lifespan, (some said here at one stage replacing a few odds and ends in situ would greatly extend that 28 years) for, as Equinor termed it "heavy maintenance", has nothing to do with the enviroment in which they were floating ?

If I purchased very very expensive "sh1t" as you termed it that required "heavy maintenance" barely more than 20% into it`s supposedly lifespan I wouldn`t be throwing good money after bad repeating the mistake.

patnor1011

Oh well, reality is here to stay...

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/global-coal-exports-power-generation-hit-new-highs-2023-2024-01-18/

But then again... Burning Coal in Third World Countries doesn't create greenhouse gasses. That ONLY occurs in the West.

Just ask any Paris Accord Climatard.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637343#Comment_121637343

Dont worry burn away itll be grand, little auld Ireland will solve the world's climate change crisis all on its own💪💪

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637923#Comment_121637923

Has anyone claimed Ireland will solve the climate on their own? I don't think so.

Can we make Ireland a cleaner country? yes.

It that such a horrible proposition to have a cleaner country?

Gussoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639233#Comment_121639233

Cleaner? You mean like eliminating all the litter and fly tipping? That would be great.

That has nothing at all to do with green ideology though.

creedp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639233#Comment_121639233

While deliberate or not a lot of the hard sell in this country around renewables is linked to reducing the impact of climate change which apparently will cause less floods etc in Ireland. The link is somewhat tenuous, especially if increasing the implementation of renewables in this country actually increases the CO2 emissions produced elsewhere.

By the way Ive no issue increasing renewable energy production in this country in a sustainable way but have no time for the doomongers preaching from the pulpit to rid humanity of fossil fuels today or burn in earth tomorrow

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639549#Comment_121639549

Problem on this thread is people want it to be black or white.

We need to up production from renewables. Simple fact. We also need a blend of wind/solar and others.

The doom & gloom by some people is really back firing, this global boiling nonsense that was spouted earlier in the year.

Anyway, ireland needs to reduce CO2, we have multiple ways to do that, and before the usual crew land in about killing cows, I am not saying to kill cattle(correct term FYI😂)

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639233#Comment_121639233

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639646#Comment_121639646

One minute it`s not solve the climate on our own, the next it`s Ireland needs to reduce CO2 by uping production from renewables. For what purpose, to reduce global emissions by bankrupting the country where if we shut down every source of emissions China alone in one day would negate it burning coal to drive their economy.

And what are these multiple ways we have to reduce these CO2 emissions. Do you even know what the plan here is for net zero emissions by 2050 ?

BTW.not surprise to see you do not want to hear anything about reducing methane emissions by culling 200,000 cattle as it is nothing but Irish Green Party ideology and has sfa to do with reducing emissions.

Clo-Clo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121639911#Comment_121639911

Wow, another post about China 😂

Throw in a comment about Green Party which has no relevance. At least you keep to the same agenda on every post.

Then people ask why the thread is dying when you see this nonsense getting post ad nauseam

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121637343#Comment_121637343

Only a few weeks ago we were being regaled with the dterling efforts Australia are putting into reducing global emissions by reducing their use of coal for energy generation. Last year Australia was the 2nd largest exporters of coal. So much for their concerns on global emissions!

It`s past time some woke up and smell the coffee. Nobody actually gives a toss about emissions. For Australia and many others (the E.U. included) it`s nothing but virtue signalling using creative accountancy.

An Australian greenie did say afair, he thought the Itish Green Party looking to cull cattle here was nuts. But then as one of the countries gearing up their cattle numbers to cater for world wide demand and to fill any space left by a reduction in supply from Ireland, there wasn`t much else he could say without looking like a complete hypocrite

roosterman71

The quickest way we can reduce our energy emissions is to import more power via the interconnectors.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121640024#Comment_121640024

Perhaps it hasn`t twigged with you yet that attempts to avoid points made to you in relation to your own posts and your by now obvious not having a clue what the net zero emissions plan is, (or even emissions in general), the main death here is your credibility.

But you work away. No skin off my nose.

charlie14

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121640274#Comment_121640274

We could buy wood from Brazil and generate all our electricity from burning it. Technically that would make a large difference to our emissions. We could even do a barter with them and send all our cattle back on the empty wood boats seeing as they are increasing their cattle numbers. That would reduce our emissions even more.

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121640678#Comment_121640678

Send the cattle to Brazil, import the finished product and you have the circular economy. 😁

Pa ElGrande

Luckily we seldom get as cold as Norway. Buses don't do well in the Oslo cold. Lesson learned they need to be connected to an extension lead as often as possible ...

Although the cold does reduce an EV's range and charging speed, Professor Stefanopoulou believes it's all a matter of organisation and planning. 

"The buses need to stay plugged in, if possible, early on, before they start the route and stay plugged in overnight. When you do that, the battery can start and operate at this maximum range."

"Then the transit authorities have to either adjust their routes and notify passengers or equip the bus with diesel heaters for these few cold months to make up for the 30% loss in range if they want to maintain a full schedule and their usual routes," explained the battery expert.

Seems like the fixed route electric tram has solved that.

Both Bus Eireann and customers are themselves discovering the economic, features and comforts of electric buses in Athlone.

• Intending passengers need to put on extra clothing layers during the Winter and open the windows wide in the Summer.
• The last bus home is one hour earlier.
• Bus Eireann can't start charging the buses until midnight.
• More expensive that diesel to operate.
• Battery storage capacity declines 30% in 12 to 18 months. Remember buses on the go every day.
• Replacing batteries costs ~€100K

See - ‘If you turn up the heat on cold days, the range reduces’ – TD hits out as Bus Éireann admits battery problems with electric buses pilot | Independent.ie

Pa ElGrande

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121652640#Comment_121652640

There was no sunshine, The wind was too strong, the turbines had to be stopped during peak electricity demand.